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OmNamaShivaya
post Nov 13 2006, 11:06 AM
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Hey guys Necro newb here..hahaz..Need to clarify a few things..
I have read and re-read the necronomicon a few times but i have this wierd experience even when reading it..I have unexpectedly drifted to sleep two times while reading it (not cuz i was sleepy by the way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blush2.gif) ) and both times i can vaguely remember mystical journeys of some kind while asleep.And i always wake up right after the journey and feeling drained like i really took a physical trip somewhere...Im very intrigued by this but wat frustrates me is the fact that i cant remember wat the damn journey was about.I just cant remember wat went on in those journeys?Has anyone experienced this before?
Any advice from the more experienced ones?

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post Nov 13 2006, 12:55 PM
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You can take it that you aint find the Nec, but it found you. you aint reading it, its sending you information ;-) what instanteneously came to my mind was like it might have been a sort of past life review. or may be some sort of your astral travels in previous times such as may be gate walks etc.. who knows..



As i have been tellin you, you go a road paved right infront of you and as it seems you have chosen to walk on that road, you will get to meet several such events on the way. :-)



You have worked with divinities to help people and trust me, its the sames Gods who have showed you the way to the nec.



I once posted that i was searching for the vedas and i got the answers in the nec...



Hinduism Gods are very closely related to Sumerian Gods.



Look at the word of power of Gibil (one of the 50 names) and you shall know what i mean. You already had experience Ganesha and when Ziku came to you, you indirectly got a sort of knowledge about the interrealtionship of hinduism and sumerian religion and idirectly to any other religion around :-) Its something that the religious books dont teach but you experience in real :-)



I am happy of your nec works :-)



Keep it up...



Enki bless.


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post Nov 14 2006, 11:30 AM
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Greetings OmNamaShivaya,

The Nec is altering your mind when you have these experiences. It is Sorcery which is a process of self transformation. It is quite possible to drift off in the middle of reading the Nec into a vision or trance like state. It is important while reading the Nec to control the mind and think good thoughts. As what is in your subconscious can influence any visions attained.

That you are having these experiences is quite promising. It means that you could be an awesome Gatewalker.

Zi Dingir Ninib Kanpa!

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post Nov 14 2006, 08:38 PM
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While I've not gone into dreams or trances, I have felt strong pullings from the Nec while reading it. Those behind it are very powerful and I think those who have strong experiences with it are called by the deities within.


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To these I turn, in these I trust;
Brother Lead and Sister Steel.
To his blind power I make appeal;
I guard her beauty clean from rust.

He spins and burns and loves the air,
And splits a skull to win my praise;
But up the nobly marching days
She glitters naked, cold and fair.

Sweet Sister, grant your soldier this;
That in good fury he may feel
The body where he sets his heel
Quail from your downward darting kiss.

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post Nov 14 2006, 11:01 PM
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Hello guys..as you all already know i have this tendency to drift into sleep while reading the necronomicon and experience journeys of some kind which i barely remember when i wake out of it..

I had the same thing happen yesterday but this time i can remember parts of the "dream".I was in purple fully carpetted "medieval" like room of some kind..i was seated in a throne-like(like a kings chair)in the middle of the room and in front of me there was an even higher and bigger throne chair and on it was this "creature" which looked a whole lot like the golem creature from "lord of the rings" only much bigger and with a crown on his head.He actually looked friendly and had the kind of naughty grin on him..I cant remember the conversation we had clearly.

At first he was laughing and joking with me like we were best of friends but the longer the conversation went i sensed him trying to
"pull" me to his side.He said he had he had seen me making "ripples" in the astral plane.. and was trying to convince me to divert from the part i was following now to his side and promised me great things..He promised me great things but i didnt trust him one bit.My rejection started to anger him and he turned from the joking friendly figure to a menacing figure and changed his tactics to actually threatening me and shouted at me with a booming voice.I didnt flinch one bit and shouted NO back to him at which point i woke up..

This is so damn confusing?Anyone got any ideas what this dream meant?

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post Nov 14 2006, 11:17 PM
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Could be an astral manifestation of an Ancient One of some sort. They felt ur power and want u to develop them on their side as a slave to whatever being that was. Sounds like u r definitly making waves in the Astral. I will talk to Pasapa some time about this, as he is ur friend(right?). Im sure we can figure out a good meaning for ur dreams.
Keep posting ur visions, or at least write all of them down! Later on u can see what is going on w/ i u more and more by ur tracking of ur Astral experiences.

Laterz


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post Nov 14 2006, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(Suxur-Mash596 @ Nov 15 2006, 12:17 AM) *
Could be an astral manifestation of an Ancient One of some sort. They felt ur power and want u to develop them on their side as a slave to whatever being that was. Sounds like u r definitly making waves in the Astral. I will talk to Pasapa some time about this, as he is ur friend(right?). Im sure we can figure out a good meaning for ur dreams.
Keep posting ur visions, or at least write all of them down! Later on u can see what is going on w/ i u more and more by ur tracking of ur Astral experiences.

Laterz



odd that you say that. Everytime I fall asleep reading the nec I talk to tiamat in the astral. yet I always had her calling since I was born.


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post Nov 15 2006, 12:54 AM
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Kool about making ripples in the astral.. Its something that came to my mind yesterday itself. To describe what i thought about that was that if you are surrounded by a lot of enemies, you like create a sort of wave that distorts the areas around you. its moves like a ripple on water. this causes anything in that ripple zone to be like dematerialised, broken, ripped, crushed... Its a kool form of magical self defense i guess... I guess though i thought of doing that with a scepter i got at nanna gate.

It was my interpretation of the ripples as i thought about that before reading your post.

Another implication of ripples would be that you are showing power that is like distorting the currrent flow of the astral normal drift... Something that might be due to the hybrid methods you use to do the evoctions or spells. Like for instancw you use camphor as light source and sacrifice which is something that must be quite powerful as you got a real powerful experience with that.. you are combining summerian methods with Hindu methods.. it should prove interesting.. I guess you could continue with the camphor stuff.. and the kumkum (red ash) you use etc.. along with your defenses from Shiva (Marduk)... you might prove to become a real powerful entity sooner.

You need a watcher very soon :-)

Be blessed

ZI ENKI KANPA, OM JAI SHREE VISHNU NAMAHA!


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post Nov 15 2006, 01:55 AM
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I get the impression that the waves he speaks of are really a new power source is disturbing the enviorment of the Astral. When a new power is introduced, the enviorment is altered. That might be the case here. Plus being a Hindu does definitly help w/ the energies being used effectively.


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post Nov 15 2006, 04:56 AM
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Something that might help your interpretation some is when such things happen, ask what the entity's name is.


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To these I turn, in these I trust;
Brother Lead and Sister Steel.
To his blind power I make appeal;
I guard her beauty clean from rust.

He spins and burns and loves the air,
And splits a skull to win my praise;
But up the nobly marching days
She glitters naked, cold and fair.

Sweet Sister, grant your soldier this;
That in good fury he may feel
The body where he sets his heel
Quail from your downward darting kiss.

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post Nov 15 2006, 11:09 PM
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Hey guys. My ability to actually remember my dreams has been seemingly improving the last few days though still not fully developed yet. Yesterday after speaking to mystick online to clarify some stuff I went to sleep and found myself in a dream.

I was in an unknown place where everything looked Dark and the sky was filled with Dark clouds and there was no Sun and no Moon in the sky.The surroundings itself was foggy and misty(dark)It was raining heavily but there was no thunder or lightning but the rain was causing floods everywhere in the area.i was taking shelter under some building and realized the only path I could take to go wherever I was supposed to go was flooded heavily.In fact the walking path I was supposed to take had turned into some sort of mini “river” due to the heavy downpour.

While I was sitting down pondering what to do,this lady came beside me.She looked to be from African descent(dark skinned) had braided hair but she was huge for a woman.Not muscular but just big(bone structure) like shall we say those Amazonian women we see in shows.She was wearing a normal t shirt and jeans, nothing fancy.

She told me she knew the way and asked me to follow her,as we walked in the open area it was still raining but weirdly enough we didn’t get wet.The pathway to the place I was supposed to go was still like a river due to the flooding and seemed dangerous.The woman turned to me and said “Why don’t you call your Bandar to accompany you?He is just right there you know”..Saying that she pointed to the sky to show where my Bandar was and once she pointed to the sky the rain stopped the clouds all disappeared and I could see the night sky clearly with many stars but one star(the one she was pointing to) shone More brightly then all the rest.I looked back at her but she had disappeared.

The freaky part was as I looked back to the sky a sigil appeared in the sky and the name marutukku kept being heard.I woke up right after that.I checked the necronomicon for clues and I learned that marutuku is 1 of the spirits but I don’t see the connection between him and my Bandar.Also the sigil I derived from my dream does not appear in the necronomicon.And what about the African/Amazonian woman?So many questions I have..sorry guys but you guys have to help me with this one..

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post Nov 16 2006, 12:22 AM
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It seems that this was a female manifestation connected to Marutukku. I will try to use this seal, and call Marutukku. I will report any real findings. But that star seems to be ur BANDAR, maybe this female entity of strength was sent to guide u out of the fog to see clearly the path ahead. Or---this just a possiblity---she is ur BANDAR. I cant tell for sure. What do u think?


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post Nov 16 2006, 12:23 AM
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I dont really know but the lady might be the bandar of the lodge of Enki. as i introduced you to the lodge members... Else anyway who she might be Inanna, a guide, Antu, Lakshmi, ..., she still gave you some indications. the path you are on will be slowed down by lots of adversaries etc.. to disperse the clouds, and make your path clear, you need to call your Bandar. use the method i sent you that Brother seraphim gave me to summon my bandar. I should be fine.

I guess its not always a good idea to post seals revealed to a person for his use to be disclosed in a public forum. :-) you could send it to people you know or whom you trust in private messages etc :-) Its my opinion. as this seal is the first doorway to your real walk onto the path of the Nec.

Its great that you are well asisted in the astral to move unto your path. I am sure you have done lots of good things in this life for you to achieve so much.. Normally its people who over incarnations have made the Gods happy and now time has come to move further in your spiritual quest :-)

keep the seal well and meditate on it before you go to bed this night. you shall have your subconcious interprete that foryou and show you in your dreams what need to be shown...

take care

mystick :-)


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First, I might suggest the woman is a woman of power, possibly a goddess, or one sent by a goddess (IIRC you are draw to Inanna?). I get this because at her behest the rains stopped and the fog cleared.

Furthermore, I would suggest the rain, fog, darkness, etc was not indicative of coming strife, but of your mind being clouded. Witness that when you walked out behind her, you didn't get wet, though it was raining. This suggests to me that your mind isn't perceiving the reality that is before you, i.e. you see obstacles where there are none, etc. I'm not making a value judgement, but I've seen enough that I know that our minds don't always perceive the things of the spirit realms clearly, as we are still bound in the physical realm, and try to interpret spiritual things in light of physical things, when it should be the other way around. I only hope in my case, that experience will improve my perceptions to where they should be.

Perhaps a sacrifice to Inanna in thanks migth be in order?


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To these I turn, in these I trust;
Brother Lead and Sister Steel.
To his blind power I make appeal;
I guard her beauty clean from rust.

He spins and burns and loves the air,
And splits a skull to win my praise;
But up the nobly marching days
She glitters naked, cold and fair.

Sweet Sister, grant your soldier this;
That in good fury he may feel
The body where he sets his heel
Quail from your downward darting kiss.

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post Nov 21 2006, 09:38 PM
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Greetings Ses musgal pasapa,

It could be the Orders Bandar. I would not be surprised as she has already appeared to me in a dream.

Peace Edunpanna

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