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| bym |
 Mar 31 2005, 05:48 PM
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(IMG: style_emoticons/default/clapping.gif) (IMG: style_emoticons/default/ac42.gif) psi is proper....ki/chi is an eastern term....its age is debateable. the greek letter psi is used in most western magic tradition to classify a host of phenomena. If your argument runs true, then stop using the flaming "k" when you say MAGIC(K)....it's a Crowleyism! 'hack, hack!' psipog site is excellent! manipulation of chi can be obtained in any number of eastern disciplines.....besides Martial Arts! Tai Chi masters are awesome to behold!
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Apr 1 2005, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE If your argument runs true, then stop using the flaming "k" when you say MAGIC(K)....it's a Crowleyism! I tend not to use the "k". In fact, I only use it when people make the arbitrary distinction between slight of hand and magic - I don't see much difference.
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 The value of an individual is not numerically assignable. Given the individual's infinite capacity to affect change (for better or for worse), it follows that their value is just as infinite. Logically then, not only are all individuals of equal value, but all possible combinations and groupings of individuals are of equal value, and finally, no matter an individual's past actions, their capacity to affect positive change is not diminished.
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| Magique_Jeune-Fille |
Apr 12 2005, 08:37 PM
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hey, I'm interested in makeing a Psiball, but I don't how!!!!! also, how do you make a scrying glass, that's like a magic mirror, right?
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| QUOTE | Every part of this earth is sacred... every shining pine needle, every sandy shore, every mist in the dark woods, every meadow, every humming insect. All are holy in the memory and experiance of my people... We are part of the earth and it is part of us.
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Apr 12 2005, 08:54 PM
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Making PsiBalls - the one thing I can do right now (IMG: style_emoticons/default/victory.gif) Relax and cup both of your hands near each other, close your eyes and imagine intensely a ball of light starting to form denser and condensed between your palms as you focus your attention more into it. Remember, relax! After a minute or so doing this, you should begin to physically feel this magnetic ball in your hands. There you go. Your first Psi Ball (IMG: style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Making Magick Mirror: Astral Workings Articles Read up on Scrying.
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| Aroura |
Apr 25 2005, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(Magique_Jeune-Fille @ Apr 12 2005, 09:37 PM) hey, I'm interested in makeing a Psiball, but I don't how!!!!! also, how do you make a scrying glass, that's like a magic mirror, right? About Scrying... many surfaces can be used... If you want to make a scrying mirror (which yes technically is a magic mirror Snow white style) take a peice of Glass and paint the back of it black... Inexpensive scying mirror... you can etch some sigials or whatnot into the mirror if you feel like it. As for Psi Balls or energy balls I close my eyes and focus in between my hands sending energy...( be it whatever energy you feel like releaseing at the time) through the centers of my palms, you might feel an elecrtical sensation going down your arms and through your palms, then again you may not, some do some dont. You may feel the energy in between your hands it will feel warm, then again like before you may not feel anything... just know it is working. As soon as the ball is to you liking release it... Its known as rude to throw it, expecailly at people... My two cents, Justice
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| Mr_Merlin |
May 6 2005, 06:48 AM
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Hey I'm into this sort of thing .... I visualise a ball of energy which I build betwen my two hands ... I increase the ball of energy into a form so powerful I cannot push my hands together .... I once threw one of these resultant balls at a friend during a workshop and she was sent flying into the wall .... we then built an energy in the same way then sent it into the ground as roots of a firm oak tree ... we had other friends trying to push us off our feet which they found to be very difficult to do .... Try building the same type of ball of energy then casting it into an open flame imagining the ball is a very flammable substance ... the more powerful the visualisation the greater the resultant effect .... (IMG: style_emoticons/default/fie.gif) I used to get friend's children to imagine the same balls of energy and then conjure up all kinds of different things to do with the ball of energies ... the serious side to it was we would introduce the children to their own auric fields and their own biochemical energies .... One friends child imagined the energy like a hand and used it to open a door This post has been edited by Mr_Merlin: May 6 2005, 03:03 PM
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| Babalon_Reborn |
May 9 2005, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(UniOne @ May 9 2005, 05:22 PM) Do you need a lt of belief that it's there? All I get is heat and no "effect".... I have to counter the word belief slightly... At first its a matter of belief, but belief isnt enough. It's not about belief in the energy ball youre making, its a matter of knowing your making it. Then when you get more advanced in skill, its a matter of knowing that its already been made... Belief is enough to get people to do the exercises. Its not enough to get results. You have to KNOW... You know the feeling of a ball in your hands, You know the heat the energy creates... Believing is basically having faith. Faith proves nothing. This is a form of science. There for it is a KNOWN art. Take you hint from science and KNOW... Sorry if this turns some ears, or upsets someone. That was not my intention. My intention was simply to assist. I did so as I KNOW how. I passed on KNOWledge given to me. And Wiseone is right. Belief helps, but after so long, belief is not enough. Belief can lead to doubt... If you doubt you will be unsuccessful... Another thing Wiseone touched on that is correct... Practice. Practice all the time. whether physically or mentally. Practice in all things makes perfect... A good example is the LBRP ritual. When most start it they often dont get tangible result or any result. The more you do the ritual, the more you know it, the more it becomes a part of you subconsciously. And the more you do it, the more you will notcie things begin to happen...
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| Mr_Merlin |
May 10 2005, 04:48 AM
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Shikes ... I never thought of it like that .... yes !!! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/ac42.gif) Excellent debate ... or excellent verbal slathering .... !!! Can see the sketched deity coming out in you ... that sketch was you incidentally???? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) First then you have to have belief ... then you must play the part with absolute conviction ... as if you were really that being ... yes ... yes .... Like us human beings .... we are a soul ... In a body with a name .... the body has a personality all of its own .... We then are made to BELIEVE that is it ... that is all we are .... then we all play it with absolute authority 'cos we believe in the part implicitly ... So all human beings take part in a ritual then .... the ritual of material life ...???? (IMG: style_emoticons/default/blush2.gif)
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Hey! This life is just a dream. As in any dream the sleeper can assume control. Magic is gaining that control and using that awakening to full advantageMarried for life, to my devoted wife, who I have neglected recently but will do no more.......... A Light In The Darkness Blog; A LIGHT IN THE DARKNESS
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| Babalon_Reborn |
May 10 2005, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE Shikes ... I never thought of it like that .... yes !!! (IMG: style_emoticons/default/ac42.gif) Excellent debate ... or excellent verbal slathering .... !!! TY-TY... Curtsey, Curtsey. The sketch is Isis, Goddess, Priestess, Woman. To me there isnt much of a difference. QUOTE First then you have to have belief ... then you must play the part with absolute conviction ... as if you were really that being ... yes ... Yes and no. First you have to believe... Then you dont play the part, you are the part. How many religions of the world tell us that we are gods? The bible does, amongst many others. I beleive (here comes the belief twist that connotates doubt) that the phrase is "oh, ye of little faith. Do ye realize that we are all Gods? Made in his image AND likeness." Its really been too long since Ive read it for me to be quoting it. But you get the jist of what I am saying. And hopefully now you can see how belief can lead to doubt. And when you doubt your own magick you are sending energies out into the cosmos that can sabotage your magick. YOU MUST KNOW. Knowing comes with time however... A good example are the gifts you have. You KNOW you have them. If you said you believed you had them, it becomes a double edged sword. 1. belief in this sense denotes uncertainty and could lead to doubt. 2. it would mean that you werent sure of their existence, hence another form of doubt. QUOTE In a body with a name .... the body has a personality all of its own ....
We then are made to BELIEVE that is it ... that is all we are ....
then we all play it with absolute authority 'cos we believe in the part implicitly ... Here again, we dont play the part. We BECOME the part. Through knowing. And its not what we believe as far as having a body with a name. Its what we KNOW. We KNOW we are body and personality. But you failed to list where that personality comes from... The personality is the only internal part of our minds and spirits that shine through to the outside worlds... Since these things are ours, we KNOW them intrinsically. For they are part of us. We dont believe we have a personality, we KNOW we have a personality. As far as all people taking part in a ritual, yes all do to a point. The ritual of life. Some of us expound on that and take it to then next level is all.
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May 10 2005, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(UniOne @ May 10 2005, 07:38 PM) *Eyes widen...*
Woah... then my obsessive RolePlaying has defenily paid off...
So If I KNOW that Iam the legendary UniOne, then I will BE the legendary UniOne...
At last, my two year goal has finally been reached... Now I AM the Uni... Role Playing does pay off in magick... It helps build imagination, which in turn helps strengthen visualization, which when combined with the proper energies is the key to the majority of spells, incantations and rituals... as for the rest of your post, I hope youre trying to be funny. Thats all i can say without seeming disrespectful. YOU are YOU. You are not some character in a roleplaying game. You might believe in this character, but deep down you KNOW its just that. a character.
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May 11 2005, 07:40 AM
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True... but I have tried to complete the process of Unification, the ability to wield the powers of light and darkness in unison... For two years, I've been altering my personality to be better at the balance of these two forces.... I roleplay as myself, well, more like I roleplay what I want to become... the legendary wielder of light and dark... To think is to believe is to KNOW... I KNOW how to BE the legendary Uni-One, I KNOW who the Uni-One is... I am the legendary Uni-One... The Uni-One is me... I am already this... It's just taken me too bloodly long to relize it... But killing doubt is a pain in the butt... stupid brain... It thinks tooo much... (IMG: style_emoticons/default/butcher.gif) This post has been edited by UniOne: May 11 2005, 07:41 AM
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May 11 2005, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE But killing doubt is a pain in the butt... stupid brain... It thinks tooo much... I agree it is not about believing or even faith, it is about knowing, absolutely knowing, you never question what you know. As for using energy balls, well they do make fantastic weapons (IMG: style_emoticons/default/black eye.gif) LOL I have become quite adept at forming them one handed, and launching them at a target, oh and baby Dragons love to eat them as well. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/13.gif) This post has been edited by Saintgeorge: May 11 2005, 08:09 AM
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May 12 2005, 12:48 AM
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Belief is a good tool, but don't let it become self-delusion. Belief is a tool of changing the way you interact with the universe, not the way the universe interacts with you. Example? You can believe you can fly, but that isn't going to stop you becomming pavement pizza after jumping off a tall building. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/fie.gif) Like any tool in magick you should not become reliant on it, nor should you be unwilling to set it aside. The best banishing is laughter, stepping outside your magickal paradigm and becomming a rationalist who KNOWS that the demons that are attacking/tormenting you are just a fiction, a figment of your imagination. Roleplaying is hard to define, but for me it is best described as the act of trying to fool others with false stories of great magickal experiences, demons hunts, trips to hell etc. Paradigm shifting is the act of stepping from one belief to another for the purposes of magickal progression. The first is delusion, the second a powerful tool. This really deserves a thread of its own, so I may split this off into a new thread if it gathers enough interest. |
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Oct 9 2006, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(mediocracy @ May 12 2005, 07:48 AM)  Belief is a good tool, but don't let it become self-delusion. Belief is a tool of changing the way you interact with the universe, not the way the universe interacts with you. Example? You can believe you can fly, but that isn't going to stop you becomming pavement pizza after jumping off a tall building. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/fie.gif) Like any tool in magick you should not become reliant on it, nor should you be unwilling to set it aside. The best banishing is laughter, stepping outside your magickal paradigm and becomming a rationalist who KNOWS that the demons that are attacking/tormenting you are just a fiction, a figment of your imagination. Roleplaying is hard to define, but for me it is best described as the act of trying to fool others with false stories of great magickal experiences, demons hunts, trips to hell etc. Paradigm shifting is the act of stepping from one belief to another for the purposes of magickal progression. The first is delusion, the second a powerful tool. This really deserves a thread of its own, so I may split this off into a new thread if it gathers enough interest. Can I say that you are already that much a part of the world if you didn't exist with a body. And the universe can change with you. This post has been edited by Coffee: Oct 9 2006, 05:12 PM |
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| telempath |
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QUOTE Psi is a term for parapsychological phenomena derived from the Greek, psi, twenty-third letter of the Greek alphabet; from the Greek psyche, "mind, soul". [1][2] Traditionally be divided into two sub categories:
Psi-Gamma - Pertaining to paranormal cognition (ESP, remote viewing, etc), and Psi-Kappa - Pertaining to paranormal action (psychokinesis, etc). [2]
The term was coined by biologist Bertold P. Wiesner, and first used by psychologist Robert Thouless in a 1942 article published in the British Journal of Psychology.[3] Psi was argued by Thouless and Wiesner to offer a non-theoretical manner of referring to ESP and PK, these terms being unjustifiably loaded with suggestions as to how the phenomena were caused or experienced.
Although Thouless and Wiesner were careful to offer psi as merely referring to certain phenomena worthy of study, it has come to connote the processes that somehow cause these phenomena, or a certain faculty of human psychology. In a 1994 paper in the Psychological Bulletin, Daryl J. Bem and Charles Honorton defined psi thus:
The term psi denotes anomalous processes of information or energy transfer, processes such as telepathy or other forms of extrasensory perception that are currently unexplained in terms of known physical or biological mechanisms. The term is purely descriptive: It neither implies that such anomalous phenomena are paranormal nor connotes anything about their underlying mechanisms.[4] Do you see ki anywhere in there. If I recall correctly, ki is the name for a subtle form of energy which flows through the subtle body via meridians, while "psi", as indicated above. has a totally different meaning. You can argue that they are different names referring to the same thing, but that would be done through inference and the original creator's of the term merely coined it as a way to describe all of those nifty little abilities. The author was correct. PsiPog blends esoteric thought with para psychological thought, but this is done so as not to provide such a steep learning curve. As far as psi balls and ki balls, I have only seen a few people make them successfully. I have the ability so see and percieve energy and feel it. A lot of the people who say they are making balls of energy are just making balls of air or their own imagination. PsiPog works on the basic foundation, such as sensing and learning how to get the energy to flow, but for people who are naturally gifted, it sucks. Seriously, if you are already a strong empath or a telepath and are trying to keep from being overloaded, the best information that is on the site is "shield" and depending on the case, that is not very good. Or let us say that you are generating and sending out too much energy. The most helpful information on that site is ground. They don't deal with the psychological aspects of it at all. Trust me natural psions suffer alot of angst. It is a good site for people who don't have any experince at all and are working to develope it, but bad for people not in that category. QUOTE(gafurjg @ Dec 27 2006, 09:23 AM) I read that website they all lie and are lying there I never seen anyone make a real visable psi ball it would take a lot of energy you have to learn how to drink energy from the universe and space. Can't make a "psi" ball visible, but I can make my energy visible. I captured it with my webcam during a failed TK attempt (I suck at telekinesis micro pk is my thing). Not only that, I showed a family member of my and they said my hands seemed to glow. I took pictures of it and asked people what they saw and they said they saw an outline of my energy. Anyways, I am not sure if that is my energy on the recording or something else, so I am hesitant to show people, LOL. This post has been edited by telempath: Nov 17 2007, 03:44 AM |
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