Shadows Options

Ya i read the same thing about unbrakinesis.
I learned that if you practiced both with photo and umrakinesis then you can more easily learn both becuase your actualy moving the photons in which can create shadows,they realy are the same kinetics but just divided for being focused on darkness and light.

Vagrant Dreamer, wow that realy is helpfull information.(IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

i was on another forum about psi and i heard a person say something about umbra kinesis, they said that umbra kinesis would allow a person to manipulate shadows. from what i know you can't actually manipulate shadows because shadows don't have any substance but if you created a way that could bend or repel light you could turn an area around anything as black as night.

i was wondering if anyone here could help me out and explain to me or recommend a book that would help me.

Thanks,
night

i was on another forum about psi and i heard a person say something about umbra kinesis, they said that umbra kinesis would allow a person to manipulate shadows. from what i know you can't actually manipulate shadows because shadows don't have any substance but if you created a way that could bend or repel light you could turn an area around anything as black as night.

i was wondering if anyone here could help me out and explain to me or recommend a book that would help me.

Thanks,
night

it would help you to free youself completely from the belief matrices that restrict you to solid matter, space, and time. Maybe read up on the holographic paradigm... Astral Projection and the Nature of Reality, by I-forget-who is also a good one for loosening the mind. Then, starting from the ground up, locate every belief in an objective universe in your consciousness and eradicate it. I suggest also working yourself into a delusional state. it'll probably ruin your social life, but until you can totally suspend all BELIEF (not just saying it, but really excising them out of your psyche) what you're suggesting isn't even in the realm of possibility. Transferring energy as subtle heat through the air or the astral current to spin a psi wheel is one thing, bending light with your mind is quite another. We're talking about two very, very different magnitudes of energy manipulation, not even remotely in the same field.

Also considering possible consequences that your conscious mind may not be able to think of, but your subconscious knows darn well would be a major inconvenience for you and the rest of the universe, you may ultimately prevent yourself from doing so. it would be easier to manifest a fireball.

good luck!

peace

I find it interesting that people will say that umbrakinesis "isn't really controlling shadows", but don't put forward the same objection for cryokinesis, since cold is simply a "lack of heat".

Dreamer has it right - it's a perceptual thing.

I don't think you can't control what doesn't exist, physically, spiritually, or in any other term. A shadow is nothing more than the absence of X amount of light reflecting off a surface.. So as he said, rather than controller shadows, you push, or move light... And if you can do that, total invisibility would be just a matter of training. (Albeit I don't think anyone can move/bend light with their mind.)

This post has been edited by ClockKeeper: Jul 11 2007, 08:51 PM

Also considering possible consequences that your conscious mind may not be able to think of, but your subconscious knows darn well would be a major inconvenience for you and the rest of the universe, you may ultimately prevent yourself from doing so. it would be easier to manifest a fireball.

good luck!

peace

What a totally long winded and completely unhelpful post! Umbra kinesis is a term that is a sub category of psychokinesis. That is the manipulation of matter with mind, period, therefore, all those other terms besides TK are not necessary, but that is another subject.

Light is electromagnetic radiation of a wavelength that is visible to the human eye (visible light). In a scientific context, the word light is sometimes used to refer to the entire electromagnetic spectrum. Light is composed of an elementary particle called a photon.

Take a wall. Shine a light directly in front of the wall. There will be a shadow behind the wall. Why, because the photons are hitting everywhere, but behind the wall. The wall is acting as a barrier that is either absorbing or reflecting the light. That being said, a shadow is simply the places or spaces between the photons. If one simply repels, with practical or psionic or energy means, the photo particles, you create a shadow. The energy to do this actually is less than the energy used to move a pencil, due to the fact that photons are such small particles and it takes less energy to divert something at an angle. You would do it in the same way you would do telekinesis, but on a smaller scale. The above stuff is not necessary and the dangers in doing that are less than trying to levitate a bigger object.

For some reason my energy messes with photons making itself visible. I have no idea why, since I am not trying to do it on purpose, LOL. My energy can generate light, but I don't do the shadow thing. Let us switch lingos. Flaring a "psi" ball or a construct works of the same dynamic. The energy that is not visible is interfering with the photons making itself visible. It is affecting the particles of light around it, but the construct itself is not visible. A wave of particles requires less effort and energy to influence, at least, than a pencil, a piece of paper, or let us say a candle flame, due to the fact that it is smaller and more easily interfered by outside sources.

This post has been edited by telempath: Nov 16 2007, 08:10 PM

Ill start by stating the obvious which is that I personaly never tried this. ^^;

Other then that, I have heard quite a bit of the subject from a friend. Apparently in their "house" he and the other psy vamps that work with magick do menifest some sort of control over this matter. Also a few rumors, which yeah.. are not very reliable. :S

Anyhow, I dont know the deteils but I do have a theory of my own. If you ignore the rules of the phisical world(which are rarely relevant when it comes to energy and the spiritual side behind things) I was thinking that shadows are the extension of various phisical things in our reality. If your shadow is an extension of yourself, then you are bound to have some sort of control over it. Im not exactly sure yet what sort of extension, though everything phisical has a metaphisical system working behind it. A shadow is not a living being(as far as I know) and does not posses a complicated energetic system as thus(just my conclusion yet again). Which means that other then fullfiling a few phisical condition in which shadow can menifest itself more freely(like night time, where light does not disturb the movement of the shade and it can be aywhere regardless of the low ammount of light) you can control the shade by finding that extension that connects you to it energeticaly and with your will animate it and move it.

Just a theory of course. It was never something I wanted to do and never really intrested me personaly as something I wanted to achieve, though I am curious about knowing the mechanics of about anything energetical and how to work it. Even if just as a valid theory of sorts. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)

About the "phisical" side of things. In my practice, personaly, if I considered how the phisical works every time I tried to menifest something in reality I would start building heavy mechinary instead of using energy on the energetic systems behind everything that builds what we see and interact with. Just my opinion of course.

This post has been edited by Shimi: Apr 2 2008, 02:41 AM

About the "phisical" side of things. In my practice, personaly, if I considered how the phisical works every time I tried to menifest something in reality I would start building heavy mechinary instead of using energy on the energetic systems behind everything that builds what we see and interact with. Just my opinion of course.

It is called psychokinesis. The ability to affect matter with the mind is called psychokinesis. As such, such terms such as "umbrakinesis", are unnecessary and irrelevant. It is pretty simple. The is a connection between mind and matter. Due to this, the mind can interact with and influence matter. A photon is a piece of matter. That is it.

Telempath, there was a good reason why I added "in my personal practice". It was because I am not only talking from the view of someone that works with psy, but also from the side of one who practices magick in general and manny other practices.
Thanks for explaining the term to me. Though personaly if I didnt know it, or what people are refering to or talking about, I would most likely first have said so or asked\implied that I am in need of an explanation. (wether or not I performed this or instead someone else did, does not imply the lack of knowledge or understanding. Maybe just a lack of intrest. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif) )

Having said that. Please, pay attention to what I am saying(even though I must admit my english is far from perfect, being far from my native language) so our conversations may be more pleasent. At least from my side, so far, as it seems. Since your replys put me in wierd positions, like I didnt even know what I was writing about but just had to anyway.

So sorry for missleading you. In the case I am not writing correctly or putting down my thoughts in a manner that does not explain them very well. It is not my intention. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) Though if I feel I need correction or explanations, again, I would ask for them.

I would suggest instead to just ask me for a clarification or a method if you are unclear of what I meant. I will gladly share what I know in a way that might be, simply put, unfamillier to you. I do the same, and it is no shame.

(if it helps, In matters which I do not understand I prefer to keep silent and just observe the conversation and how it develops. So I am better equipped to join it at another time. ^^ )

My last remark, which was intended in humor of course, was simply to add that considering the large ammount of phisical elements would eventualy lead to having a massive head ache(or just waste a lot of time). Instead if you looked at the fammilier energetic systems(at least fammilier for me, personaly), from a more magick orianted point of view, you can achieve the same results but with less effort through a technique that simply puts aside the phisical and relyes on the more energetic side of things. Getting you the same result but through diffrent means. (relying on the theory that everything is basicaly energy, wether we can determine the phisical shape and form by diffrent scientific means or not)
That was my intention. A perspective that might not fit in the convential topics in these forums of psy and such. I can understand why it confused you, though again I would ask you kindly to ask me for an explanation before telling me what I meant to say.

This post has been edited by Shimi: Apr 14 2008, 10:40 AM

Telempath, there was a good reason why I added "in my personal practice". It was because I am not only talking from the view of someone that works with psy, but also from the side of one who practices magick in general and manny other practices.
Thanks for explaining the term to me. Though personaly if I didnt know it, or what people are refering to or talking about, I would most likely first have said so or asked\implied that I am in need of an explanation. (wether or not I performed this or instead someone else did, does not imply the lack of knowledge or understanding. Maybe just a lack of intrest. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif) )

I am just a stickler for proper terms.

This post has been edited by telempath: Apr 15 2008, 05:04 PM