QUOTE(Xenomancer @ Nov 17 2008, 02:04 PM)
I was meditating in my car (my body drove home on autopilot) when I started thinking about science, the point of it, and the Large Hadron Collider.
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What causes our atoms to weave 'out' of the core-ward dimensions?
What mechanics describe the inter-dimensional movement of our atoms?
What is the point of our being in this outermost dimension?
Given that our atoms are parcels of inter-dimensionally percolating energies, what is the purpose of the core-ward movement to which the atoms return to the core, just to come back to this dimension?
I'm going to try not to be confusing, because these questions create these weird circuitous thoughts in my mind, almost like currents of electricity that when I involve myself in them, I have to forcibly stop by opening the current.
So here's where I ended up. Keep in mind that lately I'm a kabbalist-come-hermetic, so most of my 'lexicon' is in that language, though the concepts themselves aren't confined just to that philosophy. I feel that if we imagine creation as a kind of hypersphere - not the classical kind, really, it's a placeholder word - in which the surface is the core, is the surface, is the core, we find our 'here' at that point as both surface and core, and the 'origin' or the 'there' being also the surface and the core, switching places endlessly as the energy moves. That is to say, i think that the energy itself doesn't really change, but that our positions change - although really that's the same thing, and when i think about it the other way that makes sense two. So what we have so far is a very rare quadripolar paradox. This fits with my hermetic philosophy because of the paradoxical natures of the elements. Fire in/opposed to water in/opposed to fire, and the resulting alternating elements of air and earth. All of the elements compose one another in some way, and this is in line with the kabbalistic 4-world view (Atzilut, Beriah, Yetzirah, Assiah). The 'hypersphere' here is also in line with the Malkuth in Keter in Malkuth.
At the moment I think that what causes the core-ward (and paradoxically 'surface-ward') percolation is the pressure present in both parts represented kabbalistically as the letter Aleph and Tav. At any given moment either letter-number stands/functions as either core or surface. Aleph is the universal creative force, the unthinkable original. Tav is the ultimate material existence, the perfect resistance and ultimately reflector/condensor of Aleph, the other letters are all between them. Aleph is the ultimate paradox, and Tav is the ultimate paradox resolver - so we have a different kind of duality in them that is different than +/-, good evil, etc. It's abstract enough to fit the hypersphere model - because it's the Aleph-Tav dynamic is not really compatible with material consciousness, and neither is the hypersphere, but they function elegantly together as a reciprocal explanation.
What becomes even more interesting about these questions you pose versus the kabbalistic model and the Aleph-Tav dynamic is that the mechanics of this core-ward/surface-ward reciprocal percolation is in the hebrew letter-numbers between aleph and tav. Each progressive symbol after aleph describes the gradation of this primal Origin towards further degrees of materiality, ultimately culminating in Tav, which then reverses that process through reflection, initiating the opposite current, that of material into immaterial potential. The various ways in which this takes place and the stages within stages, are described through the combination of the letters, the total number of which is incomprehensible to the human mind in any practical sense. Suffice it to say there are more zeros than you have fingers. And of course while we know that there is, or appears to be, infinite diversity in creation, ultimately we must concede that within the confines of material existence, while the permutations of possibility may be endless, there exists a finite, if mind-bogglingly vast, diversity in reality, by the simple limitation of space.
As to the third question, which was partially touched upon above, I am not sure that this is the 'uppermost' or 'lower most' or 'outer most' dimension - I think of it more as a matter of the consciousness being focused to a point of material experience. Imagine that there are so many immaterial planes, which when intersecting all at a single point, maniefest the physical perspective at that point. A kind of lense to take the timeless and spaceless percolation of energy to and from the origin and 'end point' if you will, into a mode in which, while it is not in reality existent physically in the absolute sense, is perceived so much like a 4-d hypercube (or sphere) passing through a 3-d medium - it is perceived as a cube, just as we know one, and yet it is so much more. As it rotates through that medium, we perceive a cube moving, perhaps changing shape, etc. - but until we can see the whole picture, the whole hypercube, we don't grasp experientially the 'whole picture' as it were; it's broken down into peicemeal frames of time and space, dissected as it were, and witness one frame at a time. In this so called 'outermost' dimension, we are able to analyze huge currents of energy as they interact with one another, much like comparing the paths of particles by seeing which electrons they bounce out of orbit on a sheet of tinfoil. Perhaps the purpose of putting us here is to get a better vantage point. The view from 'above' might seem to us to grant a greater understanding of the bigger picture - but how much more might we learn about, say, particles, if we could assume the finite scope of the particle itself and observe it up close and personal, as it were?
As to why they come back and forth - the third tier of this Hermetico-Kabbalistic Philosophy for me is Alchemy, and although my experiential knowledge here is yet limited, while the obvious answer is often later recinded and refined (hah, I made an alchemy joke, lookit), I would think that this process may be one of refinement. Refinement of what is somewhat beyond my ability to speculate effectively, and this is often where I go into my thought circuit. Perhaps it is the refinement of Aleph into Qoph, Cosmic Consciousness, as Suares suggests, but this seems even still limited as to me Qoph as Cosmic Consciousness is Aleph Fully Aware and Alive as a Being contained in Raysh, the cosmic container that contains itself, whereas this material whatever it is, which is being refined through this near eternal alchemical process must be something finer, something which is the essential substance and not the application or modulation of that substance, which I feel consciousness and ultimately cosmic consciousness to be, though perhaps a higher expression of that. Perhaps consciousness does grow over time, and perhaps it is only through the refinement of this meta-essence than this can happen. Perhaps consciousness is merely a by product, and perhaps we ourselves are but the dross of that stuff, separated from it, from a greater consciousness, much as the pure salt is gathered from a mid the lesser material via calcination, the rest of it washed away in water. Speculation there becomes of little practical value, at least for now, as it must devolve into philosophy which is only applicable here as a guiding set of principles by which to seek security in 'knowing' when really we, perhaps, never can.
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Which leads me to my final question, and is perhaps THE question. The Great Question: Why are we -here-?
I'm sorry if I jumped around a bit in this thread. I am trying to concentrate my energy in not forgetting my thought paths that brought me to my questions.
I think I covered that in the rest, but as a closing point, I believer perhaps we are a part of the process going on, that it may be that the percolation of energy is embodied in Us - we are the process, which is by its nature a living, consciousness process. While we may see ourselves as separate, much as the cells in the body, or the atoms in a molecule, may act independently but in tandem none-the-less. Like a very vast, Hyper being passing through a 3-d space. Like passing the roots or branches of a tree through a 2-d space - you would find a cross section which would appear to be many different shapes, sizes, etc. - and yet if you could move out of that 2-d frame of reference and see the tree, you'd realize all of those shapes are connected beyond what they can experience in that 2-d frame - that they're all part of the tree, and part of the process of passing through that frame.
I think it would be less fun, honestly, and less conducive of growth, to ever really know the absolute answers, if there are any, to these questions - it's the need to know, and the process of attemtping to reasion through our experience in order to find the answers, that causes the growth of our awareness and consciousness. Perhaps, it is the refinement process of percolation, refining itself even more, become more expedient or efficient over time.
They are certainly, fascinating questions, and I am truly intrigued by the comparison of percolation, as this itself is a kind of refining process.
peace
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