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Kath
post Dec 20 2009, 12:52 PM
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this is a really cool movie, I loved it. it does have some slightly new-agey overtones in places, but I didn't find myself minding at all, they rather seemed to manage to only use the bits of new age thinking which I *don't* disagree with.

the movie though, left a big impression on me. I was really impressed. its a rare thing to catch myself still thinking about a movie a couple days after watching it.


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post Dec 20 2009, 04:27 PM
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I watched it a couple of days ago. Loved it. The 3D version was quite impressive.

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That makes at least the three of us watched avatar a couple days ago (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) The movie was very entertaining and was better than my expectation. Not cartoonish at all.


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post Dec 22 2009, 03:44 AM
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Yeah i really like the movie as well the graphic's were amazing most of them done by weta workshop down in small little New Zealand. Im going to watch it again but this time in 3D

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post Dec 24 2009, 03:05 PM
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It was a great film, surprisingly deep in its themes. I loved the positive message about the environment and universal togetherness, as well as the critiques of the Bush administration and the Iraq War. I don't think the film was perfect, but I think it did put good ideas out in the world, and we can be happy for that.

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post Dec 26 2009, 12:05 PM
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I took my three oldest children to see this film on Xmas. The 3-D was the finest quality I had ever seen, something to really get people into the theaters. Ordinarily 3-D will end up looking like layers of flat objects, but this was very well done. The PG-13 rating is appropriate: no gratuitous violence or explicit sex scenes, but it's also not too juvenile. Who doesn't like giant blue barbarians on pterosaurs fighting against machine-gun wielding jarheads? There is some substance in the film if you care to have it, and if you prefer this to be just another sci-fi fantasy adventure, you can have that too. The audience clapped and cheered at the end.


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post Dec 29 2009, 03:28 PM
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Bunch of tree happy aborigionees get run over by guys in tanks, firing arrows at apache helicopters unable to defend themselves until a sympathetic guy in a tank finds his legs and becomes their saviour, dances with wolves in rip roaring 3D and pretty colours... Ooops.... most of the savages actually lived in urban complexes, farmed and had complex systems of philosophy, mathmatics and even forged metal!? Perhaps they weren't so savage and backward after all but hey, let's make a film loosely based on it to somewhat imply they had it coming .lol. Some shamaness she was huh? Better off with an 8 ball gizmo.

This guy is intresting, same story really...

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=GB#/results?client=mv-google&q=interview%20confessions%20of%20an%20economic%20hitman&aq=f&oq=


The 3D was a lot better than expected, most expencive film around apparently.

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post Jan 1 2010, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE(Kath @ Dec 20 2009, 01:52 PM) *

this is a really cool movie, I loved it. it does have some slightly new-agey overtones in places, but I didn't find myself minding at all, they rather seemed to manage to only use the bits of new age thinking which I *don't* disagree with.

the movie though, left a big impression on me. I was really impressed. its a rare thing to catch myself still thinking about a movie a couple days after watching it.


I absolutely loved it as well. I don't know very much about the Native American path, so I coudl very well be wrong...

but instead of New Age I thought it was reflecting the Native American beliefs and thier tragic treatment by the Westerners. Their journey from Home Tree to the Tree of Souls for instance, made me think of the Trail of Tears. Thier deep connection to the Earth and thier ancestors, and thier open-ness.

The parts of the occult and magic I saw was the peoples perfect soveriegn collective Self. That is what impacted me so deeply. I have understood that one of the primary goals of most occult practices is the remanefestation of the Self to grow ones own divinity and sovereignty. Of course everyone was not totally perfect, for instance the other warior that did not accept Jake so kindly, or when he displayed his deep jealousy.... but even with those flaws... the way that he handled those flaws was at a higher level of perfection than most human beings can manage. The main example was the girl Jake fell in love with. Her awareness while preparing to kill him. Her restraint while angry at him and explaining her remorse for killing the wild dogs. That right there, that scene specifically affected me deeply. It caught me of guard because I didn't understand why she was angry or where she was going with it with it either until she explained it.

Just the day before I had a customer at my job who was a flaming a$%*#!*. He actually reminds me of the military guy from the movie now that I think of it. He came in being an a$%*#!* to my coworker. I rescued my coworker after listening, and while ignoring the guys vacuaous ranting proceeded to speak to his wife instead and begin to fix his problem. I almost mixed up what I was doing because the guy would not stop bothering me, openly trying to piss me off, and just let me fix his problem. (I work at ATT Mobility btw) When the guy realized that he wasn't going to get to me and that I was successfully tuning out his attitude, he began being friendly instead, and telling me stories. So he proceeded to tell me about the Safari hunts that he goes on and all the big beautiful animals that he has killed and all the medals he has won for thier size and how rare they were. Just for sport. Just for F'ing fun. Just for a dam stuffed head to hang on his wall, and he was so GD'med proud.

So when I saw that scene in the theater and I made the stark comparison in thought between the character and 90% of the population today it made me cry, and still makes me cry.

My boyfriend wonders why I hate people so much. Just that one customer negatively affected me more when he was attempting to be friendly, rather than when he was attempting to piss me off, and he did it in half the time. I have to work with people like that every day. By the end of the day every day I have been exposed to more nasty people than I would ever want to meet in my life. Not all of them are nasty and not all of them are christian, but most are. I live in the deep south and most are also genetically linked to the flaming idiots that actually waged war and split a country in half over keeping other human beings as slaves.

So I saw the attitude and collective soveregnty diplayed by the blue characters as having great signifigance as an example of balanced soveriegn behavior. It was in perfect sync with the universe as a whole being writ small in a creature as Richard Cavendish explains in his book The Dark Arts. To master the universe one must master kindness, malice, sadness, anger, empathy, fear, fury, etc. All of these were displayed in perfect balance by the blue creatures in all the situations they were presented. Everything was accepted as it was, experienced and handled without damage to their Self.

I also appreciated the stark comparison to the mindset of the blue creatures by the military guy which, for those who don't work with the public and have a personal experience that contrasts like I do, created that contrast to make it powerful. Then there was also the reference to corporate greed and how it gets out of control, destroying raw beauty for petty gains.

It was an amazing movie. I have kept on thinking about it too, obviously. That night that I saw it afterwards, I almost felt disturbed and couldn't explain it. But I think I just explained my way through it so I feel better now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I thought it was kinda cute how Eywah is a mutilated Yaweh. I don't know if that supposed to be a positive or negative reference to Yaweh, but it's interesting anyway.

EDIT: I forgot about the references to energy. I guess that was the main new agey thing, but the Native Americans kind of went with that too. It also reminded me of the concept of Chi. Of course, it is not like a computer, but in martial arts that practice chi cultivation and manipulation it is accepted that there is physical energy in the human body and in just about everything. In most things they believe it can be manipulated.

I also liked the part about all energy being borrowed and that it must be eventually given back. It is true that energy cannot be destroyed, and that it can only take different forms. So if the energy in our bodies is unique to us, therefore we live on in different forms after death.

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post Jan 5 2010, 03:17 PM
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The movie was incrediable great stroy line amazing graphics and very positive message i would suggest this movie to anyone. It may teach a few people to realize that earth is sacred and that we are destroying it with malls and factorys and big citys and polution that we have lost touch with mother nature and her beauty. So very positive it is a beautiful movie and James Cameron did an amazing job with this movie 5 stars all the way.

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post Mar 29 2010, 12:12 AM
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I watched it twice and loved it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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I read this post a few weeks back. I have a completely different take on the movie--and I know people who walked out of it because it was too violent, contrived, and because the shots were of such quick-action brevity for a middle-aged person, that besides being a tour de force in animation technology, it was probably a tour de force in subliminal communication. I did think it was beautfiul , poignant, and full of promise--and had tears in my eyes--somewhere after maybe 20 minutes had elapsed but that changed over the next hour and a half. The same thing happened with Alice in Wonderland except only 15 minutes had elapsed when I was somewhat dazzled and then immediately disapointed--kind of like being with a hot, impetuously persistent amorous guy who won't take no for an answwer but then can't get it up.

Someone just referred me to this 2-part video review that kind of says it all: http://www.youtube.com/user/RedLetterMedia.../16/uJarz7BYnHA

Then there is always this essay of Disney's Pocohontas story that a friend sent me months ago. If you replace the names and certain characters and places, you get Avatar. It is amusing. http://heronguy.livejournal.com/113643.html

Good to run into you here, Kath.





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