Self-hypnotism And Its Use In Ceremonial Styled Magick/trance Work Options

The Golden Dawn make a fuss about the use of Hypnotism due to their having to fend off charlatans in the form of illusionists and 'telepaths' perhaps in much the same way Harry Potter and stage magic derides western spiritual practice (ie: ''Magick'') today but its obvious that this has been a mistake and that its usefulness has been neglected. Poke Runyon hints at a slightly more underhanded purpose for dissuading people from its practice and suggests that a practitioner develop themselves in order to make use of it in both Golden Dawn styled magick as well as the older Ceremonic styled Goetic art.

Suppose in truth the Golden Dawn speaks out against the use of hypnotism but does not make mention of self-hypnotism specifically, the idea of having someone delve into your mind to plant suggestions is abhorrent to someone who intends to use that mind to forge and create their own realities and redefine themselves IMO. But its use on oneself has too much value to be put aside without a valid reason for doing so, sigil work for example is a form of self-hypnosis planting suggestions within the mind for them to react and effect reality and in the same way when understood it can be seen that ones own subjective reality is based on the same principle as in Feng Sui we are surrounded by a mesmerism both seen and unseen.

Anyway, does anyone here use self-hypnotism to engage in Ceremonial work or Trance work in general? How has it worked for you?

Peace
M

Yeah, very much into GD styled practice. Enter a trance like state once a ritual is established in the mind where it and can be done without having to think about the procedure. Is often that time lapses occur when a state is entered, can finish and realize it had only taken a short time or alternately had taken a much longer time that you had thought. Can be haphazard at times as a practice can become a habit and be tough to break with if or when it needs changing. Many books make the mistake of allowing for convenience when people are starting out for example, 'no need for a dedicated temple space' and so on, establishing that within them only to later state that it would be good to have a temple space and several props .lol. If you've spent years without a cubed alter in the center of your space it would prove hard to make one and reprogram ones muscle memory to work around/behind it in daily practice. Was a bit peeved when this one hit me as I had long become used to an Eastern Style more floor based practice for parts. The concern with some is that the GD style stuff works to impress, imprint symbols onto the astral through the use of imagination and props rather than establish them in ones awareness the other way round.

This is what has me thrown...

Most Tibetan magick is done from the inert, seated asana position
whereas much of Solomon's magick is performed standing up and
even moving. Our hypnotic trance allows us a unique mobility and a
remarkable capacity to operate in the subconscious and conscious
mind simultaneously. This enables the operator to ask the receiver,
"Do you have a presence?" or "Would you like it stronger?" without
disrupting the trance state. In a solo working the operator can question
his own spirit manifestation directly, going back and forth between his
own rational mind and the manifestation from his subconscious as normally
as he would carry on a conversation with another person. The
reason for this is implicit in the dialog nature of hypnotic induction and
especially the self-directed dialog developed in self-hypnosis
training. _ P.Runyon.

Will have to read through the book and get to grips with Self-Hypnosis some more.