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Vagrant Dreamer
post Jul 21 2011, 02:51 PM
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So, I've been doing a lot of astrological research lately and part of that has been astrological magic in general. With the success that I saw from my jupiter talisman, as well as a venus talisman for a friend of mine, I wanted to explore the classical astrological magic elements that I had not employed to their full potential with those two.

Agrippa writes of beneficial times to make various kinds of talismans, and that discussion leads to a series of writings regarding the fixed stars, the decanates, etc. This culminates in a particular kind of talismanic magic that involves searching for a particularly powerful time to make the talismans based largely on planetary dignity - how strong that particular planet is at the time that it's made.

I'm writing now, and here, because there is a beautiful conjunction coming soon involving mercury conjunct Regulus on the ascendent, at least in my part of the world. It will be in this conjunction for a couple of days, so it will be on the ascendant when mercury rises from july 28th through august 1st - although the more exact it is the better, and on the 29th it will be in the first decan of virgo which is an excellent placement.

Beyond this, mercury will be part of a grand trine between jupiter and pluto. This is an awesome configuration for the kind of talisman that will ensure your business endeavors will flourish effortlessly; of course a grand trine tends to engender laziness because of it's ease, so the key is to work hard in conjunction with this kind of talisman and not allow yourself to be lulled into that carelessness. I have a small supply of brass to work with and will be making a couple, one of which I intend to attach to my business, which is actually ruled by mercury, and in our chart mercury is in a really hard position, beset by both mars and saturn, both of which are in terribly malignant positions. Once saturn leaves its domicile in libra I intend to make a talisman during it's descent, or possibly this oct 31st when it conjuncts spica and while on the descent. More research is needed there.

The main benefit is in the conjunction of mercury, regulus, and the ascendant. The ascendant empowers a planetary influence, and the stars express their nature into the planet, and from these the planet expresses its empowered and modified influence to the rest of the chart at that time. If you've got anything, especially jupiter, at around 29Leo to 1Virgo making any positive aspects, this is a day that you probably want to make an investment, get a loan, or even play the lottery although it would be better while mercury transits the 2nd house in this case.

It's an experiment, and I intend to keep an ongoing update here because this is the first time that in making a talisman of this nature I have been so careful in picking the time. It's a long way off, but i've already got a Jupiter and Moon talisman on the books for May 04 of 2014 at 8am when Moon and Jupiter conjuct Spica, but we'll have to way a few years to see how that turns out.

As to the method, aside from the timing I am using the method outlined in imperial arts' Tablets of Destiny, with the addition of the images of the 1st decan of virgo and the image of Regulus, and the image of Mercury in virgo.

I encourage anyone else to try and do the same if you're able, mercury ascends in the early-ish hours all of these days, but it won't enter the first decan of Virgo - and to be conjunct Regulus it has to be within 1 degree traditionally, so at 0 degrees some minutes virgo - and the next time this happens will be september of next year when it will not be in nearly as strong a position, being oriental, combust by the sun or at least in the sun's beams, and making aspects to saturn and mars in their own domiciles. It takes away quite a bit of the dignity that this iteration will have.

If you do take advantage, let us know how it goes! I would love to compare notes on these kinds of particular operations.

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post Aug 1 2011, 02:46 PM
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I chose the time I started drawing the rough draft of the talisman as the beginning. It makes sense.

Anyway, here's the chart you asked for. I used the default Tropical format because you seem to like it better, Vagrant. TBH I've found sidereal works better and is more accurate, but to each their own. Hint: My Lat/Long is in my info box under my userpic. XD

(IMG:http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c264/Fixerkitty/astro_w2gw_02_mercury_talisman_hp743572601.gif)

The main side effect so far is my family is bitchier than usual. TBH, though, I'm not sure if it *is* really a side effect or the fact that Mom goes back to school on Wednesday after having the whole summer off work. She wants more vacation. :/

In any case, please share your learned opinions! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This is my first real foray into talismanic magic, so I'd like to know how much is skill I've picked up from elsewhere versus good old beginner's luck. :/

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post Aug 2 2011, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE(Darkmage @ Aug 1 2011, 04:46 PM) *

In any case, please share your learned opinions! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) This is my first real foray into talismanic magic, so I'd like to know how much is skill I've picked up from elsewhere versus good old beginner's luck. :/


My first forays into talismanic magic took only the day and time into account for the planetary day and hour. Hit or miss, at the time. I started working with metals then, and hit or miss. When I started to see the main improvements was when I started to explore the nature of the seals themselves (symbolic numerological perfection of imperfect forces). The more specific I got about the purpose, the more pronounced were the effects after this. So that my jupiter talisman was pronounced, but I could have directed those energies towards other purposes when they arrived. I stuck with the business that I know. The venus talisman was specific to scratch-off tickets for a friend of mine - interestingly, friday seems to be the luckiest day for her.

I did the venus talisman with venus on the ascendent but with no regard for it's relationship to anything else, it's placement, etc. I think it was in aquarius. This is the first talisman where I have taken into account the related configurations, and tried to elect a time specific to my purposes based on the placement of the relevant spheres.

This time, for my own talisman, I wanted to be very specific, and affect the reception of our marketing. We'll elect a time for that marketing as well. As it happens, the other quickening of intellectual energies towards better organizing our business was coincidentally very soon after the talisman was created, but in this case I'm willing to concede that in making the talisman, doing our house blessing work, etc. all on the same weekend, we were more than likely mentally preoccupied with it's functioning and success already. Trines don't make things happen, they create synergy amidst which things happen easily when you apply a little force. So, this isn't going to be the kind of talisman than causes things to happen in a vacuum (I'm going to experiment with a venus/jupiter square when it comes around again though), it's the sort that makes what you actually put effort into be worthwhile and makes it 'easy' for you to reason out what kind of effort you should be applying. The easy aspect with pluto is helpful mostly in that it keeps the tension from pluto minimal. The jury is still out on what effect, if any, pluto ever has on a day to day basis, and whether that influence matters unless it's in a partile major aspect. Still, having it involved in a trine is basically a non-issue unless it simply allows for a synergy between intellect, the unconscious, and responsibilities/authority.

Using the charts given (I use whole sign house system as well, but I am still sussing out just where these things actually play out and how), I would expect darkmage to be able to make significant career advancements if the intellect is applied toward ways that service, employees, or health might be used to achieve those advancements. As the unconscious influence comes from the 2nd house, unconscious values will be more easily accessible as well, and are likely to express themselves in your ruminations. If the ascendent matters, the sextile to mars plays into it possibly granting creative energy to the endeavor, which is to say, if you reach for it you will have access to it, and it will be of an intellectual nature.

For Fatherjhon, basically the same thing applies using the same house system. I haven't really explored the relationship between the natal chart and the election for talismans - for me, mercury is stronger in my chart than any other sphere. But, it's possible that it plays a role. Agrippa suggests a system of fortunating unfortunate planets in the chart to create beneficial effects - mercury doesn't get a whole lot more fortunate than it is in this chart (except being on the ascendent, but it's in an angular house at least), so even with a fairly malefic mercury it is theoretically improved here.

So, start brainstorming about what you can do to get ahead in life career wise, you might be surprised what notions come to mind! Also keep in mind that with trines, you have to access the energy or 'plug in' to that circuit as it were. Until we launch our next marketing endeavor, we won't get much of anything out of ours in the way of improved business. Mercury is a fast moving planet, faster when aspected by Jupiter and getting faster over time in an applying aspect, so when you do have that epiphany, act on it and expect things to unfold quickly.

We'll see!

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post Aug 2 2011, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(Vagrant Dreamer @ Aug 2 2011, 10:37 AM) *


For Fatherjhon, basically the same thing applies using the same house system. I haven't really explored the relationship between the natal chart and the election for talismans - for me, mercury is stronger in my chart than any other sphere. But, it's possible that it plays a role. Agrippa suggests a system of fortunating unfortunate planets in the chart to create beneficial effects - mercury doesn't get a whole lot more fortunate than it is in this chart (except being on the ascendent, but it's in an angular house at least), so even with a fairly malefic mercury it is theoretically improved here.



I'm slightly confused now. Is it the placement of planets, the dignity, or the intent that this talisman is using. I was assuming dignity from your first post. But now it sounds like all three and your natal chart all play a role. I know that the best time was when it was properly placed with regulus, but i was under the impression that any time Mercury was dignified it indicated a good placement for a talisman.


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post Aug 4 2011, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(fatherjhon @ Aug 2 2011, 10:25 PM) *

I'm slightly confused now. Is it the placement of planets, the dignity, or the intent that this talisman is using. I was assuming dignity from your first post. But now it sounds like all three and your natal chart all play a role. I know that the best time was when it was properly placed with regulus, but i was under the impression that any time Mercury was dignified it indicated a good placement for a talisman.


Following agrippa strictly, the best time is when the influence in question is on the ascendent, which is to say, when it is rising in the sky. Conversely its also understood that when the star is descending you don't use the influence for fortunate or benefic means. This means, basically, that the star in question shouldn't have passed the midheaven.

The way it has worked for me is a combination of all of these things. The intention behind the talisman determines the end result; the placement determines how and where the intention will be carried out to achieve that result; the planet itself determines on what plane this takes place primarily (with the related harmonies and stressors creating supporting currents on other planes); and the dignity of the star at the time determines how much power the star has to work with.

Being conjunct to the ascendent or midheaven gives a star a unique kind of dignity - regardless of the sign the ascendent falls in, for instance, the planet on the ascendent rules the chart. Similarly, regardless of the sign or house the mideaven falls in (not always the tenth using different house systems) the planet conjoined to the midheaven gains specific power over that aspect of the chart.

In the native's chart, hypothetically the strength of the star in the natal chart allows greater or lesser influence over the application of the star in question. This assumes of course, that the nativity plays a role, which is not entirely made clear in the text - but follows the same kind of logic assessed in transitory influences (transiting mercury making an aspect to natal mercury, for instance.)

So it is a bit confusing just in general - there are a lot of influences at work, and finding the right time and direction to apply them requires a lot of consideration. The reason this particular placement of mercury is so, for lack of a better word, 'safe', is that it has virtually every degree of dignity that it can have in one placement, and cannot help but be a beneficial influence, except perhaps when conjoined to the descendent.

Astrologically speaking, yes, anytime mercury is so dignified is basically a good time for making a mercury talisman. The question that arises in the subject, is when the proper time is to make the talisman within that period of dignity to achieve the most efficient application of magic towards the intended outcome. So although making the talisman at 2pm when mercury is placed in the 11th or 10th house (placing the connected stars then in other houses accordingly) will still apply almost the same degree of dignity towards the outcome, the path that it takes to get there is not the same as being on the ascendent.

I believe that the choice to attach mercury to the ascendent may be in part that it therefore is connected to the placement (control) of the other house cusps, and therefore symbolically impresses or utilizes its influence over all of the houses (hence the planet on the ascendent governs the chart).

Because our talismans were made under slightly different conditions, and the intention may not have been precisely the same, all we can do is keep the record and pay attnetion to the different ways that things play out. The value of this kind of magic is that it's application towards change is fairly narrow - the delineation of the planets involved target specific qualities and places, initiating specific and focused currents in order to achieve an end. So, we can expect to identify more easily where those influences are present and ahving an effect, versus the need in many other kinds of magic to over generalize the means leading to the end, not knowing where to look for developments, or the circumstances under which they have to operate. With this configuration, you see a harmonic flow of energy, in which obstacles to motion are less hindered - therefore doing nothing will produce little, but applying some force to a situation yields much.

That's the best i can really do by way of a more complete explanation, and it's a combination of experience and study. With my own talisman I was far more specific and calculated than I normally am with this kind of magic, and so far I can see very specific developments - we contacted one new venue for marketing, and she forwarded us to four other venues, which all have made us excellent offers in terms of rates. Very little effort, large response. What I expect is to apply, again, some small degree of effort into these venues, and recieve a greater response than th effort would, in most other circumstances, yield. The next attempt of this nature will involve more stressful aspects, as I would like to compare the results - it is suggested that squares, for instance, and in some cases oppositions, produce changes, whereas trines and sextiles must be taken advantage of directly to be of benefit. That will be sometime off though, i think.

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