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GaiusOctavian |
Sep 8 2006, 01:59 PM
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Yeah, back when I was in freshman in H.S & was just getting started in magic, I had some annoying bastards that tried to bother me in my sleep. Big shadows when I'd try to sleep right in front of me (I sleep in the day, so the room was not dark & they were in front of my, not from the corners of my eyes as most people 'see' them). Being a catholic & having family members & family friends who practiced Santeria (This is, before I myself started it), my grandmother had just called this santero, she put a bowl of onions, holy water & vinigre in the corner of my room, said some prayers, badabing badaboom, no more shadows, or noises, or things on my desk falling in the middle of my sleep.
.::Sempre Bene::..::Chris::. -Fiat Lux
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Frater F.A.M.E. |
Sep 9 2006, 04:35 PM
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Yeah, as Makaveli mentioned, it's a part of path. The funny thing is, it's hard to tell whether the spirits are coming from within you or are outside you some of the time. After doing ritual for awhile, not neccesarily even a long while in my experience, you become more sensitive to the things that's goin on inside you, and around you. You also begin to stir up your unconcious "water's", for lack of a better term, and sh*t begins to float up.
An entity that's throwing up hellish images in your face could be a shadow part of you that's trying to keep you from discovering the actuality of it, and therefore, protecting it's own existence by keeping you in a state where you are unable to function properly, at least in regards to "it". That part of you may be anything really, but let's say an "obsession" about something or someone. The more you work to heal the obsession and integrate "it", the more "it" fights back and get's even freakier, which is why I found that taking a "round about" approach first is better, for me, than a direct approach in most cases. I probably should mention it feels real good to integrate parts of yourself, I guess, to balance what I just said, lol!
As for annoying entity's that I know where objective, in the recent past, I'd just expand my circle to "push" them out as it were, but I've also banished using the LRP in most cases, sometimes sprinkling sea salt with a purifying Intent , using the Lord's Prayer, etc. You can also manipulate the images themselves into crazy sh*t, like, if there's an image of you tripping and falling that keeps popping up, take the image and totally change it. See yourself in Hawaii, or whatever, surfing, whatever. Say if you saw yourself attacked, see the attacker turn into a big a*s picture of Barney the Dinosaur, trying to hit you with a box of Lucky Charms, lol!! This works with internal "demon's" as well.
Just my quick two cents, lol!
-F.F.
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kairos |
Sep 17 2006, 12:03 AM
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First I'd just like to apologize to the moderators if you feel that this deserves a separate thread, but my experience seems relevant to the topic at hand. About a year ago, I was staying in Thailand as part of a Study Abroad program offered through my college. As I was staying there I decided to attempt a juice fast for the first time. Unwisely, upon the second day of fasting I smoked some marijuana. After almost passing out, I finally gained my composure (relatively speaking) and decided to use this altered state to my benefit. I decided to listen to the Gong cd that I brought with me while meditating upon their specialized mandala on the shirt I own that I ordered from their website. As I did this I felt as though I was seeing from multiple dimensions and at times as though through the eye of God. As I stared, what seemed like naked women appeared before the image and started bowing before it. While this was all a rather positive experience, later that night I seemed to feel a distinct presence within the room. For whatever reason it seemed to have the appearance of a Garuda (this is a mythological eagle-like creature of Indic and Buddhist origins associated with heavenly power, somewhat like an angel, and also happens to be a national symbol of Thailand). The vibes I got from it didn't seem to fit the usual descriptions, so perhaps It merely assumed that form because the image was so ubiquitous in the country. Anyway, a few weeks later I had taken some DXM and was listening to some music with my friend C. in his hotel room next to mine. We decided to listen to my Gong cd and I got the impulse to meditate with my shirt again. Supposedly while listening to the song called (the Isle of Everywhere) while meditating upon the 'Gong Mandala' one experiences the great 'mind melt' a sort of unifying mystical vision of reality. This wasn't exactly what happened. While I stared at the symbol I began rocking myself back in forth and chanting some sort of gibberish (glossolalia or barbarous sounds?). Apparently C. said something to distract my attention and I remember jumping off the bed I was sitting on and leaping towards him with malicious intent. I remember stopping myself and talking about how I had just saved his life because I had become possessed and almost strangled him. We both laughed somewhat grimly about this (each having experienced their "Fear and Loathing"...esque moments of drug induced delirium). After this I calmed myself down and our friend J. came in to see what was going on. J. began discussing some amorous encounter with a Thai prostitute (as he would frequently do) and I remember just getting immensely tired of hearing about it and I cussed him out. C. then interjected and I spat some obscenity in his direction as well. After calming down I remember apologizing to C. but not J. While I'm not entirely sure what it was I said, one should bare in mind the origins of the term 'curse words.' The next day I ran into J. at school and his legs were wrapped in gauze and he was walking with a cane. He explained to me that when he was riding his rented motor-bike from market towards the school, a voice popped in his head repeating over and over again "You're going to crash." As this was happening, he reassured himself that he would make it to the school, doing his best to push these thoughts from his head. Sure enough, as he made it into the school parking lot he crashed the bike and tore up his legs. After hearing this I immediately felt a twang of guilt. I was convinced that I had inadvertantly cursed him and apologized for doing so. He thought the whole thing laughable and thought it all a coincidence. Nevertheless, I still feel responsible for his accident. When I finally got back home from Thailand I had another encounter with said entity. I was sleeping in bed one afternoon about a day after I got back (re-adjusting to the time change) and got the definite sensation of a presence in the corner of my room. The word 'demon' flashed in my head as I lay in bed completely frozen, unable to move. Finally, with an enormous amount of effort I forced myself to sit up and look in the corner where it was, and saw nothing. After this I sat up in bed with cold sweats for good hour or so before trying to leave my room (the presence was localized in the corner near my bedroom door and closet.) After this, I never had any more experiences with the entity, but whenever I wore my shirt, conflict seemed to occur. Fights with friends and my ex-lady friend. The day after another DXM episode (one far more positive and based off of Leary, Alpert, and Metzner's "Psychedellic Experience") I happened to wear the shirt when heading on my way. Still in the afterglow of the DXM I listened to my other Gong CD and got a very positive vibe. I suddenly felt a sneeze coming on and let it rip out the window. I then quickly rolled it back up, and got the distinct impression I had banished the being. This was supported by the small chrysler emblem I saw in the corner of the window, which is of course pentagonally symmetrical. The psychic cleanliness of the shirt, however, is still in question because whilst staying with my friend at his aunt and uncle's house I accidentally left a pen in my jeans and my friends and the ink spackled not only my friend's favorite shirt, but also my Gong shirt. But I digress... I have discussed these incidents with my friends (some having much magickal training) and they seem unsure of the nature of the entity, whether it was something created by me, some external entity, or something else. Hopefully somebody can shine some light on these peculiar events. If nothing else, I hope you found this an interesting read. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/angel.gif)
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BELIEF IS THE DEATH OF INTELLIGENCE; for as soon as one believes a doctrine of any sort, or assumes certitude, one stops thinking about that aspect of existence." -Robert Anton Wilson
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valkyrie |
Feb 10 2007, 03:14 AM
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As someone who has very little experience with minor possesions...what constitutes as a "minor possession"? Because there are two incidents, one in the past, and one that just recently happened that has me worried. The previous, I THOUGHT i had a shield up but a dragon-like entity sort-of resided in me for the night. It was very strange...the other moment...which just happened, which has me replying to this forum at 3 something in the morning...was the sudden invasion through a chakra point in my hand that led to my neck. I was sitting in the dorm lobby for a late time snack, and i felt this presence, and could ALMOST here someone whispering to me, and then i told it i couldnt help it, i wasnt developed enough magickly speaking, and then i felt like something had tugged at my crown chakra to ease me a little further into another plain, and a sudden jolt/stab into my middle finger (there is a mark there) that is similar to an electric current running through ones arm...and i felt my energy being pushed up my arm, replaced by a burrowing energy (thats much lighter actually)...I know very little about chakras...and less about strange spirits who make it a habit of entering the body...so i guess what my question is, should i assume, despite a mere feeling that it would not hurt me, that it IS MORE than a potential threat? After all, i think its rude to do it without permission in the first place. What are the techniques of disposing of such spirits...is "throwing spirits into the abyss" the casual thing to do? How can i tell if the invader is not something coming from me? After all, im still in the early process of identifying with my own signature energy. Is it possible for such an invader to "mesh" with my other energies? Does the length of inhabitation make the difference when casting off such a spirit?
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valkyrie |
Feb 22 2007, 06:23 PM
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omg its really weird that you should mention that...i think i may have done that earlier today when i was napping. i dont know if its possible, but i felt myself leaving my body (i just let it happen) and i was eased into this beautiful state of mind numbing peace and euphoria before i sat up in another person's body...i only assume cuz she was in a different room and a girl i didnt know walked in (i guess her roomate?) talking about a cute boy she had talked to that morning...at that point i felt i needed to know who i was...i said "I AM..." but two names were spoken at once, and one sounded foreign. I know the roomate was weirded out...she probably heard the foreign one...rather, it was not human sounding..because two voices were fighting to be heard. He he...i left with her concerned face imprinted in my mind. three possibilities: i was CLOSELY connected to the sleeping individual... cuz we are actually the same but in different dimensions.. or we are the same, but in different reincarnation forms or i actually accidentally invaded her for a good couple minutes. woops* xoch. i dont want you to think im stalking you lol...we seem to share the same interests, and im a fast replier. (IMG: style_emoticons/default/clown.gif) lets be friends?
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