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Xochipilli
post Dec 2 2006, 02:04 PM
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I can see theres alot of scumbags involved in the occult. I just stumbled upon this site.
http://www.geocities.com/c_cosimano/contents.html

This prick seems to be proud of sucking energy out of people to aid himself. Hes playing a dangerous game, if I ever found out someone was intentionally sucking energy out of me with psionics id be forced to knock them out.

He also says you can draw energy from nuclear blasts that happened in the past and you can draw from planets and stars.

My question is if you can draw energy from near infinite sources such as atomic blasts and stars why in the name of god would you need to drain regular peoples energy?

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post Dec 10 2006, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(Xochipilli @ Dec 2 2006, 12:04 PM) *
I can see theres alot of scumbags involved in the occult. I just stumbled upon this site.
http://www.geocities.com/c_cosimano/contents.html

This prick seems to be proud of sucking energy out of people to aid himself. Hes playing a dangerous game, if I ever found out someone was intentionally sucking energy out of me with psionics id be forced to knock them out.

He also says you can draw energy from nuclear blasts that happened in the past and you can draw from planets and stars.

My question is if you can draw energy from near infinite sources such as atomic blasts and stars why in the name of god would you need to drain regular peoples energy?


You can drain energy from anyone or anything, its rather easy (depending on how much and the distance).

Why? well sometimes there is need for magickal workings etc...

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post Dec 10 2006, 11:12 PM
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I agree 100%. Its a dog eat dog world. What gets to me though is alot of us dogs dont even know were being eaten. Were being eaten by invisible dogs so that pisses me off. If we could see the dog thats eating us we could defend ourselves and rip its throat out but unfortunately we may not even realize were being drained.

How can we find out if were being eaten so we can fight back?

Also if you can drain energy from sources with mass energy such as planets or the sun why would you want to drain sources with as little energy such as people? Its not going to effect planets if you drain a bit of energy but people need their energy.

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post Dec 10 2006, 11:21 PM
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What im trying to ask is. Is there any sureshot way of knowing if somebody is psionically attacking you or draining energy from you?

As weird as it sounds way before I knew anything about psionics or vampirism I suspected certain people of draining energy or psychologically attacking me way before I knew anything about psionics or magick.

Is there any ways of knowing for sure if somebody is attacking or draining you psionically or magickally? If you know at least you can retaliate but its pretty sad if you dont even know whats attacking you. Its like having people kicking you while your unconscious on the ground. You might feel the kicks in your dreams but you dont know exactly who or whats kicking you and you have no way of fighting back.

On the other hand if you wake up you can see the feet and then you have the ability to break some legs.

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post Dec 10 2006, 11:40 PM
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Well usually to detect vampires (intentional and non-intentional) is to "feel" that they are draining you off energy. For example, being in a room with a vampire who's draining you will suddenly start making you feel lazy and literally drained. Or when you sleep at nights and awake and feel lethargy, you'll know that you have been drained. Usually some people get the "old hag" effect, where they awake at night and cannot move their body, and see a glary gloomy phantom in air which puts pressure on their chest and drains them, but this is a more extreme and rare case where the astral body itself comes to drain off you.

To counter this there are many solutions:

1. Learning to psi vamp, and attacking the attacker (both of you having the same skill).
2. Becoming psychically stronger to be able to block your energy from the vampire.
3. Doing a banishing once you know that you are being attacked.
4. Cleansing rituals (i'm sure they'd work).

I'd suggest #1 and #2, but incase you are being attacked now and have not built stronger psychic awareness powers, then #3 or #4.

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post Dec 11 2006, 01:30 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/ac42.gif) i was gooing to say the same, but you alredy have it answered (IMG:style_emoticons/default/00000002.gif)


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post Dec 12 2006, 03:20 PM
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Shamans on the North West coast of the U.S.A (or West cost southern Canada) are known to be able to suck energy from their clients. But in this case they drain out sick energy and then spit them out from the client. Its all Aabout working with polarities of energy like the "Yin" and "Yang" thing. Ones magnetic and the other electric. So psy-vamping does have its uses.

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post Dec 12 2006, 06:26 PM
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So its not that common for people to have the ability to vamp you from long ranges?

Either way im gonna learn how to do all those steps so if I ever do encounter a psychic vampire I'll be prepared.

Makes sense about shamans draining disease energy from patients. I hear when using radionics deviced to steal energy from people you need to make a filter to stop disease energy from flowing into you.

I wonder what the shamans do with the disease energy after theyve drained it from the patient.

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post Dec 12 2006, 10:32 PM
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So its not that common for people to have the ability to vamp you from long ranges?

It is very possible if the Vamp is an adept and they have some kind of personal connection with you. However this would probably be done with non-malicious intent. A vamp who is an adept almost certainly is at least a semi master of the magick arts. I would take a wild guess that if you succeeded in invoking the wrath of such a person he / she would deal with you in some way other than a puny long distance draining.

Do not get all worked up over psi vamps. An unconscious vamp is what you need to be worried about. A psi vamp is unlikely to try and attack you in that way. For example of someone pisses me off I would much rather slap them. When done correctly a red hand print is left across the face!

I wonder what the shamans do with the disease energy after theyve drained it from the patient.

Shamans after draining the bad energy usually vomit. Its totally disgusting but I do not mind it if I think I helped the person. The bad energy or sickness is somehow released from the puke.


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post Dec 14 2006, 10:57 AM
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When I'm low on energy I usually take what I need from the earth itself, it's nurturing helps me ground and center better and it is healing energy as well (or so I've learned).

However I feel obliged to give an example of the drawbacks of Vampirism.

Once I got into a S*** Feat against my Bfriend I mean I was so enraged I could see red and I didn't think about what I was doing (he sometimes gives me motives to be so pised at him as to punch him) I assure you this was Not pleasant nor I got a kick at it; I just didn't think, and I just automatically linked to him and started draining him astrally to which he grinned at me and linked deeper and pushed greats amount of his energy into mine invading it including my chakras and i don' t know how but the pain it caused me was so unbearable that I Blacked out.

Yes, I had it coming but I was pissed and not thinking, why do I say this here? simply as an example and a warning to those that like to take energy from people That type of thing could backfire at you, so Don't take energy from people, not even while you're pissed at them.

Mind you, I want to learn to do what he did *grins* but for self defense..
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post Jan 5 2007, 12:13 AM
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Hmm, actually I've an idea what he did. You draining his energy left you open for a particular defensive manuever....the energy you drained technically was still connected to him and to you at the same time, so by using his base energy he was able to actually give you some feedback by shoving your OWN energy into you, which is how you got so overwhelmed. It's just a guess mind you, I wasn't there...but it's certainly possible that's what it was. Be thankful it was someone that cared about you though...he could've pushed a lil harder and...well let's just say you'd not like it to ever happen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)

When I was a child I was tempted to 'feed' off of life psionically...not people though eventually I would've if I'd gone down that path...but I don't like taking what isn't mine unless it's freely given. It's a matter of personality really =/ Those that DO partake in any level of feeding, particularly at an early age, get in the mindset that EVERYTHING is 'food'...and to an extent, everything really IS food for them. So...you can't REALLY blame them if you find one feeding off of you. Defend yourself to the best of your ability of course....but IF you can, try to make them see more that all the people that they're feeding off just because they can are no different than they and should be treated with more respect than mere food. Chances are, you'll fail since people tend to believe whatever they wish rather than what others tell them....but it's worth a try.

best defense I can think of....when you sense your energy being drained from you, imagine your essence surrounding your body in a crystalline shell....think diamond (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) By focusing your energy to surround your being in mimickry of the hardest sbstance known to man...you'd be better prepared to keep your energy from being taken as it's all being used to form the shield. Might work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


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post Jan 5 2007, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE(Seisoku Nai @ Jan 5 2007, 02:13 AM) *
Hmm, actually I've an idea what he did. You draining his energy left you open for a particular defensive manuever....the energy you drained technically was still connected to him and to you at the same time, so by using his base energy he was able to actually give you some feedback by shoving your OWN energy into you, which is how you got so overwhelmed. It's just a guess mind you, I wasn't there...but it's certainly possible that's what it was. Be thankful it was someone that cared about you though...he could've pushed a lil harder and...well let's just say you'd not like it to ever happen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)

When I was a child I was tempted to 'feed' off of life psionically...not people though eventually I would've if I'd gone down that path...but I don't like taking what isn't mine unless it's freely given. It's a matter of personality really =/ Those that DO partake in any level of feeding, particularly at an early age, get in the mindset that EVERYTHING is 'food'...and to an extent, everything really IS food for them. So...you can't REALLY blame them if you find one feeding off of you. Defend yourself to the best of your ability of course....but IF you can, try to make them see more that all the people that they're feeding off just because they can are no different than they and should be treated with more respect than mere food. Chances are, you'll fail since people tend to believe whatever they wish rather than what others tell them....but it's worth a try.

best defense I can think of....when you sense your energy being drained from you, imagine your essence surrounding your body in a crystalline shell....think diamond (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) By focusing your energy to surround your being in mimickry of the hardest sbstance known to man...you'd be better prepared to keep your energy from being taken as it's all being used to form the shield. Might work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


KK, Thanx I will try this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

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post Jan 5 2007, 01:34 PM
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Lemme know how it works out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


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post Jan 5 2007, 01:51 PM
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Greetings all,

Deathstalker, actually it has little to do with distance with one exception. You believe it does.

As for the rest i agree it is very easy to feed off of someones energy, You can see this being done if you practice aura work. It looks like a rainbow that leaves the victim but than it swirls together and turns black. At other times it is more focused and you can see it as a beam of light from any chakra except the third.

Other times ive seen a person share energy and they take the persons good energy and return an equal amount of bad energies. In this case the person deserved it though.

I really dont see it to be that bad as long as you stick to people that continuosly screw you over or cause you troubles...if they choose to be a pain in the physical strike back the way you know how....


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