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 Eastern Lbrp , Mpr
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post Feb 16 2007, 04:54 AM
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Greetings
I'm finding it hard to get myself started with the LBRP and the MPR
as my experience / knowledge of western occult is limited
I cant really get into it...
Does anyone have an eastern version of this ?
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post Feb 16 2007, 07:50 AM
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you can rework the lbrp using whatever names you want, but you'll have to do some research to get the names and directions and associations correct for, i assume, a hindu pantheon?

i do seem to remember a 'star trek' lbrp circulating once upon a time, or maybe it was 'star wars'

of course it can be said that such modification of an ideal is to twist the whole reason for its existence - wouldn't it be simpler to use a hindi rite instead of retrofiitting a western one?

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post Feb 16 2007, 07:20 PM
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If you're trying to easternize the LBRP, I'd say why bother? Try this basic (but very powerful) Tantric Buddhist rite (or research an equivalent Hindu or Toaist rite depending on your preference.) One thing to bear in mind, the eastern traditions often attribute elements quite differently. You're not calling to the element of earth in the North, for example.

In Tantric Buddhism (Tibetan magick) these are the correspondences you might use:

Dhyani Buddha Element DIRECTION COLOR GUARDIAN KING (Celestial Kings)
Vairochana space CENTER WHITE
Akshobhya water EAST BLUE DHRTARASTRA (Lord of Order, spring)
Ratnasambhava earth SOUTH YELLOW VIRUDHAKA (Lord of Power- Summer)
Amitabha fire WEST RED VIRUPAKSA (Lord of Sight - divining, autumn)
Amogasiddhi air NORTH GREEN VAISRAVANA (Lord of Magick)

INSTEAD of a pentacle and the LBRP, I suggest you use the JEWEL --

OM MANI PADME HUM.

The literal translation of this all-powerful mantra is irrelevant. The vibration of the mantra is said to contain all the wisdom of Shakyamuni Buddhi. (Dilgo Khyentse Rinpoche wrote: "There is not a single aspect of the eight-four thousand sections of the Buddha's teachings which is not contained in Avalokiteshvara's six syllable mantra") It is at least the equivalent of calling on the hebrew name of God. I fell highly empowered using it. No other vibrations are needed.

I use a Tibetan bell (female) called the Ghanta (in left hand) and the all-powerful Vajra (lightning bolt weapon, male) in my right (Aliester Crowley adored the Vajra and many Thoth cards show vajra symbols). I often inscribe and visualize the OM MANI PADME HUM with the Vajra, then clear with the bell. The pattern is basically the four directions. OM corresponds to YOD in YHVH and is FIRE (West), MANI to HEH and is WATER (East), PADME to VAU and is AIR (North), and HUM is HEH and is EARTH (south). You draw and visualize from WEST (left) to EAST (right) to NORTH (top) to SOUTH (bottom), creating a cross (not a Catholic cross, which starts top, but LEFT to RIGHT, diagonally to the TOP, then straight to the BOTTOM (it's the equivalent in this tradition of a pentacle). I chant OM as I go LEFT, MANI as I go RIGHT, PADME as I go UP, HUM as I go down -- in each direction.

You've now got an "eastern" (albeit Tantric Buddhist) version of the western LBRP, and equally as powerful. But you do have to wrap your head around the elemental direction cahnge (remember, these correspondences source from the top of the Himilayas, rather than from jolly old England (or Celtic correspondences, where North is earth, etc).

Sorry, my correspondences mushed together... Try this (from my previous post):

Dhyani Buddha - Element - DIRECTION - COLOR - GUARDIAN KING (Celestial Kings)

Vairochana - space - CENTER - WHITE - (n/a)
Akshobhya - water - EAST - BLUE - DHRTARASTRA (Lord of Order, spring)
Ratnasambhava - earth - SOUTH - YELLOW - VIRUDHAKA (Lord of Power- Summer)
Amitabha - fire - WEST - RED - VIRUPAKSA (Lord of Sight - divining, autumn)
Amogasiddhi - air - NORTH - GREEN - VAISRAVANA (Lord of Magick)

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post Feb 19 2007, 03:03 PM
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Just what i was looking for

Thanks a lot

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post Feb 27 2007, 10:12 PM
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greetings.there is actually a form of the LBRP used in hindu rituals for many thousands of years,actually even before the LBRP was invented there was a hindu tantrik variant.

in the hindu advanced LBRP there are actuakky ten guardians you call forth to protect your magickal space

Direction-Guardian-Calling mantra

North-Kuvera-Om Sham Kuberaya Namah

South-Yama-Om Mahm Yamahya Namah

East-Indra-Om Lam Indraya Namah

West-Varuna-Om Vahm Varunayeh Namah

NEast-Isana-Om Ham isanaya namah

NWest-Vayu-Om Yahm Vayuhe Namah

SEast-Agni-Om Ram Agnaye Namaha

SWest-Nirti-Om Sham Raksasaya Namaha

Top(zenith)-Brahma-Om hreem Brahmane Namah

Bottom(Nadir)-Ananta-Om Am Anantaya Namah

Each Mantra is recited 7 times in the particular direction and usually theres a sigil drawn of each guardian and placed in all the directions

then tumeric/ganga or salt water is brought into the working space and then sprinkled all around 51 times and also on the ten dirctions while reciting the mantra Om Gham ganapaty namahe to ensure no obstacles are there in the magick working

Finally a circle or protection(lakshman rekha) is drawn to prtect the magick worker while using the mantra om raksha raksha Jeyaraksha(using the power of nature)or Om nama shivaya(calling forth power to the circle under the protection of the supreme lord shiva or JaiRaamJaiHanumahn(very powerful)(where you work with the stregth of hanuman the ultimate tantrik..

Then you proceed with whatever magick work you are to do bearing in mind that when u draw the circle u have to realze consciously that you draw a circle not only physically but also astrally and three dimensional..

God bless..

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post Nov 6 2008, 01:10 PM
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The (LBRP )has an ancient Egyptian version called (opening of the mouth) ritual its function is to give the subject voice to be able to talk with osiris at the moment of the trial , from experience,it has a clearing ritual space and self ,cleansing ,comforting effect same as LBRP ,about the MP, I simply dont know but i will send you if i found any Info about it...

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post Dec 2 2008, 10:50 AM
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Intresting, was using the opening of the mouth ritual for a while, was a fun ritual.

I.Regardie gives diffrent variant on the LBRP in his book, The Middle Pillar. Not sure about hindu but there are plenty of versions in there... am 60% sure theres a hindu version but theres a Amer-indian one as well as an Egyptian one, Greek and so on so you may be lucky.

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