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post May 14 2011, 08:46 PM
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Have any of you heard of or experienced an entity communicating an emotion that is not describable in human terms? Yes, this is personal; the only way I could reproduce this emotion is by establishing an anchor related to the experience (which had to be continuously repeated before I could express it and form the anchor). Analogy: when I strongly feel love, hate, fear, the sensation is similar... but I know what they are. Right now I have 3 anchors to 3 experiences which I can't describe except to say they're intense, they involve some types of strong energy and the entity approves. Ideas?

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post May 14 2011, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(Waterfall @ May 14 2011, 09:46 PM) *

Have any of you heard of or experienced an entity communicating an emotion that is not describable in human terms? Yes, this is personal; the only way I could reproduce this emotion is by establishing an anchor related to the experience (which had to be continuously repeated before I could express it and form the anchor). Analogy: when I strongly feel love, hate, fear, the sensation is similar... but I know what they are. Right now I have 3 anchors to 3 experiences which I can't describe except to say they're intense, they involve some types of strong energy and the entity approves. Ideas?


The only times I have experienced something similar is when working with meditation.

Emotions are sort of the defining element in humans, we can feel a lot. There are plenty of emotions and related phenomena that are impossible to articulate using common language, but you can explore them with out any particular hassle. As far as I am aware the only way experience an emotion is through a chakra, so you might find some hints by feeling out witch chakra is associated with it.

I think I understand what you mean by an anchor, but it might help if you explain a bit more about how you created it, and what context the emotion was communicated to you. If it from "something" that was trying to communicate with you, meaning may well be more complex than emotion that accompanies it and the whole becomes confusing.

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post May 15 2011, 10:55 PM
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Someone with actual experience! Thanks, fatherjhon. Review:
An anchor is an NLP term. It means strongly associating an experience with a sensory symbol. When you repeat the symbol, the experience comes into consciousness. I had to do this because the first time we (the entity and I ) went through this I couldn't consciously remember the emotion.
The entity is a long-time friend, proven by experience. After much mutual incomprehension we have fairly good communication for things I can understand. This is a teaching experiment by the entity.
Bingo! The emotional effects have self-organized and are accessible, using the anchors, at the locations normally associated with the Dan Tien, solar plexus and throat, but further experimentation doesn't give the standard emotional results associated with those locations. May I ask what you have experienced in meditation that is similar?And any further suggestions?

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QUOTE(Waterfall @ May 15 2011, 11:55 PM) *

Someone with actual experience! Thanks, fatherjhon. Review:
The entity is a long-time friend, proven by experience. After much mutual incomprehension we have fairly good communication for things I can understand. This is a teaching experiment by the entity.
The emotional effects have self-organized and are accessible, using the anchors, at the locations normally associated with the Dan Tien, solar plexus and throat, but further experimentation doesn't give the standard emotional results associated with those locations. May I ask what you have experienced in meditation that is similar? And any further suggestions?


Hum, well I am rather cautious about say for sure what I experienced because I have only ever had it happen once for sure and a few other times that were related but unique. The first time it was while doing Tibetan meditation striving for what I would later know as calm abiding. After an hour of deep meditation I felt rather then saw an endless whiteness and experienced something profoundly different than normal mind – heart sensations. The other times where while doing Taoist meditation, where I sense the rise of an emotion one of the internal organs as it moves though my body. The meditation was designed to help transform emotional energy in to refined chi. As I get better at it, I find that refined chi has an emotion to it all its own, one I have trouble describing.

I should preference this by saying I have no idea what I am talking about and entities who speak to me get intuitively understood, so I am just guessing.
That being said, if you have tracked them to where they arise and the emotions are not the ones normally associated with that point you might need to look at the meta-narrative. The throat chakra deals with communication both articulation and understanding, and the solar plexus being higher up deals with the ego and emotions arising from that menial function. Energetically it also functions as central router for heavenly and earthly energies. The Dan Tien is sort of an odd thing though, it is a point people like to single out, but just from my own experience the Dan Tien point is the opening for the whole Dan Tien which is a field that takes up a good bit of room in the abdomen. The naval chakra is very close if not over-lapping with The Dan Tien opening, so it is possible that the two are confused. The navel chakra deals with lower emotions mostly relationships and sex.

I can understand the throat chakra because any communication you do with anything has to come from the throat and/or third eye chakras. The solar Plexus is a charka that might get involved if you are unable to express the emotion properly. The navel chakra is the only one of the three that has no obvious possible function outside of the processing the emotion. So because it is possible that the other two are incidental and that it is good practice to start at the bottom chakra anyway, you might try focusing on the naval chakra alone. Try to feel out the chakra for damage, malfunction or even just the quality it is at the moment. Try that both before and after calling on the anchor to detect of the emotion starts or resonate strongly at the naval chakra. If it does and there is a change after you use the anchor then the I would suspect the entity is sending a communication that would normally get possessed though the naval chakra and is doing so in an odd way causing other chakras to get involved and confusing things even more.


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Cosmic consciousness is devoid of diversity; yet the universe of diversity exists in notion....
We contemplate that reality in which everything exists, to which everything belongs,
from which everything has emerged, which is the cause of everything and which is everything....
The light of [this] self-knowledge alone illumines all experiences. It shines by its own light.
This inner light appears to be outside and to illumine external objects.

-Sage Vasishtha

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