QUOTE(eternal ginja @ Sep 18 2008, 01:43 PM)
with no one to tell him he is wrong he goes full off into this process
Yeah, I may have only a vague idea of how magick got started but today every person's journey begins from that - feeling rather than blindly following. If there is no one to tell you there's nothing mystical, magical and, generally, nothing special in this world - or if you've never taken those 'unaware' people seriously - the faith that you've had since you were a child remains, which is the very the root (or the basis) of every magical action. If the root is removed, you doubt. Post like 'is magick real' or ' I need a hard proof' appear on occult forums.
QUOTE(eternal ginja @ Sep 18 2008, 01:43 PM)
science has denied us our mysticism and the funny thing is that mysticism CREATED science and physics lol
Well, I'm not an expert but I'm not so sure. I mean, you're mostly right, but I would not call it mysticism that created today's science. I'd prefer: this what we call occult (today) created what we call science (today). For instance, you don't need to be a mystic to practice astrology - AND BESIDES astrology was in fact considered a science just as mathematics or medicine was. So, some roots of today's science were science as well in the past. So 'science' is just a word and just like every other word the definition changes over centuries. I believe today's occultism is as developed as, say, medicine in the Renaissance or a bit later. It's still in the early phase of development. Medicine earlier, in the Middle Ages, was often very much like folk magic + a lot of misconceptions etc. and today's it's science. Probably occult will eventually become a kind of science, but it still needs a lot of work.. OUR work. Thanks to technology it's so easy to communicate, download hundreds of occult books, grimoirs, exchange opinions, seek a suitable path... Modern magician's knowledge and abilities can surpass those of a Medieval mage...
And, who knows, maybe there will be an invention that will boost the development of that branch of science... just what the microscope did for the medicine or the telescope for the astronomy..?
Oh, and one side note.
eternal ginja, could you PLEASE use commas and capital letters a bit more often? That would facilitate reading your posts a lot, at least for me. Thanks in advance.