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 Tapping The Spiritual Might Of The Ancients., Making up useful stuff
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post Nov 23 2012, 06:23 AM
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I was reading the necromonicon the other day, it was rather interesting i must say, like pulp-fiction demonology.. quite weird.
I can't help but think most of it's success is that includes the more monster-like spirits of this world, spirits that just don't get the credit their due.
Like.. they arn't real to begin with but because their are probably lots of sea-monster spirits an dragon-spirits which have had very little attention, it was a success.

I've been thinking for quite a while that it would be prudent to start my own..
Only i want an irrefutable element of truth to the whole brew, their are spirits or ghosts of billions of species as yet un-tapped.
So i was thinking of making a sigil an word for every species known to man, to represent the best possible amalgamation of their kind.
Or rather making a template to the creation of it an letting other people do most of the hard work..

So that you could call upon the spirit of the fox.. Vulpes which represents the best of all true foxes..
Or you could call upon the spirit of all Canidae which would be a creature comprising of all the best bits of dogs, wolves, foxes, jackals an coyotes.
Representatives for all the species and groups of species, even if the species are wildly different from each-over.

So eventually people would have a powerful personification of not just every species known to man but also a representative of all that has had worth that had been lost.

In a way, pan seem's like an attempt at something like this.

Tapping into the lost life of our planet might have some extra bonus's, for instance, while communing with some anciant fungal god you might learn much more about the anciant world, stuff that would otherwise only become known to time-travelers.

Taking it back to the basics like that might also give clues as to how much of life continues in other dimentions, for instance, tiny extinct human like spirits might have continued to exist/breed in another branch-off dimension.

So theoretical representations of the continuation of lost species could also be plausable.
Like.. "I summon Ekkkkkkkkkima, the female representative to the continued existance of the lost species of T-Rex!"

Basically.. lots of room for re-interpretation by multiple individuals may lead so some really hard to find insights about the world back in their time and the worlds outside our time.
Seems like a sensible basis for evocation work to me.

Also, active spiritual cohesion's like that might be useful to the living relatives of their representative species.
i.e. hedgehogs might stop trying to cross busy roads.. crocodiles figure out how to clean up their public image by saving children in floods..chickens start killing people lol

At the very least it could make a fantastic animated TV series.

I'm not sure if i need to worry about some 'home of the spirits' or someplace for these spirits to presumably reside between use.
Life being as environmentally dependent as it is, the 'best bits' of anything would need to be partially calculated for a specific environment.

I'm not sure if some organized version of this has been created already, i've not herd of it if it has but theirs bound to be some similar belief system out their.

Any ideas/criticism/discussion welcome.

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post Nov 23 2012, 02:29 PM
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I know that in the Findhorn community they worked with plant divas, which they defined as the spiritual essence of that particular plant species. I'm assuming that you know about Findhorn, being from the UK, but for others, it is a New Age community that started up around the mid 1950s. They were known for having taken a barren piece of rocky land and being able to grow huge, healthy cabbages and vegetables. By the 1970s it had become a New Age Mecca. Probably other cultures and shamans have done something similar with animal spirits. Totems and power animals could be said to be representatives of the species rather than specific individual animal spirits. You might think of it as something similar to archetypes only the animal version. I don't think you have invented anything new although you may have come up with the idea on your own independently.


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post Nov 24 2012, 04:34 AM
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Thanks for that, i didn't know about the Findhorn foundation actually so you've gone an educated me, very interesting.. their's quite a few organisations like that about, we love em.

Nothing much is new in this world (except perhaps the diversity) so i'm not surprised.

I was just thinking that while power animals an plant spirits have always been worshiped, their ancestors and the ancestors of less lucky species are still quite an un-tapped source of potential,
also, their isn't much in the way of a definitive structured system of communing with them, an to be fair, scientists might have need of something like it in the future.

It's like a bit of a challenge.. Their's lots of forgotten spirits, some alive, some not, some continuing to evolve in another dimension, some simply with so much ancestry that their nature has changed them beyond recognition.

So the way i see it.. their's a lot of evocation based systems build to be used from books alone, people have been doing it for years, must be able to put together a working template from all that.
It seems like the natural progression of all this jazz, especially in the light of all the relatively new historical evidence, to get a general not-to-fancy but covering all the bases arcaine template for the creation of personifications tailored to channel the spiritual essences of any once living organism along with a safe an respectful way to utalise them.

Lets face it, it's got to be a fairly interesting task to go through the various theory's involved in creating a 'system of magick'

For example; These 'spiritual essences' could already be used to this sort of thing, an some might not be even vaguely familiar with consciousness as we know it.

In a way it should be like creating a special type of egregor, however, if it's already a developed entity (i.e. the ritual having been already done OR having naturally formed) it should instead strengthen said entity an make it feel welcome.

As a programmer i'd say it needs a Constructor Body and Destructor.

As a lazy bastard and a terrible host (many times ive been somewhat reprimanded for shoddy/non-existent preparation) i'd say it might need some kind of auto-tailored astral commune platform to reside in temporarily.
Like some kind of mutually visulisable welcome-mat or virtual summoning alter.

Also some means to help all participants in this strange meeting to reach the mental state of being required to make use of it.
Imagine being able to summon and commune with the spirit of a strain of flu virus.. The very presence of a human and the knowledge that would present may convince it to lessen it's deadly quality's to preserve itself.
..or it might take over the world.. unlikely i hope.. something to consider though..

It usually boils down to a Picture a Word an a Form to 'dial-in' but their needs to be a margin for change or additions to these dial-in's, it would only really all be worth the hassle if people could up-date information as they come across it.
Maybe an accompanying computer program or website.

I'd like this to be a bit of a group project to be honest, cos i'm lazy an this well might take me a decade otherwise.

Any suggestions welcome (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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