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Sheal
post Mar 22 2005, 07:10 AM
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I have a friend who lives in a house with a Djinn that was conjured by another person who lived there (along with an imp) before her. This thing is terrorizing her oldest daughter and her arthritic 80 year old mother. It has pulled her mother under the bed and even thrown a knife at her mother, broken knick knacks and such. It terrorizes only the oldest, her ears hurt at times when it manifests and it leaves and acrid, sulfuric or feces smell. I am not strong enough to bind this thing or banish it from her home, is there anything that can be done, traditional methods have failed. It isn't happy im involved in the situation (that's when it broke her knick knacks). Can you suggest any other forms of help?

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post Mar 22 2005, 07:31 AM
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If you are unable to deal with it then don't do anything else, it will cause more harm than good. You will need to contact someone who has the knowledg and the power to deal with this entity

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post Mar 22 2005, 09:28 AM
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This sounds more like a physical than a psychic attack.
Probably fits better in the "Unknown Spirits" board.

Crom's wrong though. What you should do is try and learn as much as you can. Yes - ask for help, but don't just sit around and do nothing.

Firstly, you need to think on this:
Can you remove it?
If not, then can you make sure that it's not a menace?

While djinn are notoriously bad-tempered (even I know that, and I've read very little on them), if placated they're probably going to be a good ally. So firstly you need to find out what it wants.

Once you've figured that out, the rest should be simple enough - try and give it what it wants. If it wants something either unattainable, or bad for you (like to just cause mischief), then what you need to do is somehow make it happy, without needing to fulfill that wish.

Something you might want to look up, if you're going to do some more research on djinn, is what exactly they like left out for them. That's generally a common thing with household spirits - they like little presents.


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The value of the individual is sacrosanct, but actions must be directed in an effort to affect positive change.

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post Mar 22 2005, 11:57 AM
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OK badly formulated.

Ultimately you should not sit around and do nothing, but in the short term getting someone in the know means you can learn without further damage (You are dealing with Djinn, not noted for their sense of humour, if you get it wrong). Anyway who says they have to do it once you know ihow to properly, but at least then you will know.

The whole point of approaching better qualified individuals is so that you can learn from their experience (hence the idea of Apprentices and Mentors), a system I was and still am a part of.

Or to quote my old 'an tidsear' (goes off into waffle mode);

"Tuigsinn an stuil am t-Samhradh, Bha mi a tuigsin a fhuil anns a' Gheamhradh"

He always made me feel like Grasshopper (Quang chi-kain) talking to his master in the programme Kung-fu. Very deep and very wise but I was b*gg***d if I could figure it out without much reasearch and further learning, I suppose that was the point - sigh (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cry.gif) (back on-line again

Anyway Zahaqiel's point is also valid, you as an aspirant have to use your freedom of choice to decide how you want to deal with your troublesom 'guest'

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post Mar 24 2005, 12:17 PM
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Dum-dee-dum... I'm going to move this thread to "Unknown Entities" now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wandwizard.gif)


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The value of the individual is sacrosanct, but actions must be directed in an effort to affect positive change.

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post Mar 24 2005, 09:02 PM
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Just out of curiosity, what 'typical methods' have you tried? Are we talking sage smudge and little chants? Have you yet resorted to the almighty fung shui 'kickdamofoout' techniques and word squares and divination?

Oh! Oh! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif) I don't quite know what djinn typically accept as offerings, but perchance a carrot for the imp? I know a few imps that like carrots, and once they've dried they make nifty, wands that are WONDEROUS for holding charges. And whatever you do, don't put out onions, it just makes negative energy based entities mad. (Gah! Rambling again!)


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post Mar 25 2005, 10:25 PM
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There are several approaches to this problem...
The first thing you will want to do is be sure that they are Djinn, narrowing down what/who they are helps a great deal in the approach fixing the problem. THe only reason I ask is that sometimes people just assume that it is a certain type of entity when it is actually a different sort.
The best option, would be to get ahold of a Muslim Cleric. There are usually Muslim churches (do they call them churches?) in every town, or nearby at least. They are expert in these sorts of things, and have knowledge of that system in particular. They would be able to do the best job at it of anyone.
If it is Djinn and they are actually throwing people around, moving is always a good option!
This sounds very dangerous and should be taken very seriously by the people living in the house. They need to get a Muslim Cleric in ASAP before something really bad happens.
How long has this been happening? Has any communication with the Djinn occured? Call me curious (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Mar 26 2005, 03:56 AM
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QUOTE(Athena @ Mar 26 2005, 11:25 AM)
There are usually Muslim churches (do they call them churches?) in every town, or nearby at least.

That would be a Moslem Mosque. I know. I live in one country full of moslem (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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post Mar 27 2005, 10:42 AM
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This type of attack need serious expert help and even if you manage to dampen its ardour with smudging and other techniques, it will be lying in wait until your minor annoyances have abated and then will start again with great intent.

Try to get hold of someone from a local (or not) spiritualist church or association or even a Christian set-up, the only problem with the Christian lot is getting them to take you seriously and getting fast help. Not sure where you are situated, but Googling with 'spiritualist' might offer some good links.

Wish you well here. Horrid and quite rare in comparison to other visiting types fortunately.

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post Mar 27 2005, 01:09 PM
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Greetings! I am new to these forums and just getting acquainted...
Having limited experience with discorporate entities I've found that performing as thorough a divination as possible to diagnose the entities properties and motivation is a good start. Relying on D. Fortunes 'Psychic Self-defense' in matters involving physical manifestations, I've effectively used a dilute acidic solution and then a grounding ritual/procedure. This tends to minimalize the physical assault. Depending on the entity and your own 'maturity' you should be able to formulate the proper banishings. Brute spiritual strength may accomplish this also but it is very taxing. My first reaction to this post was 'use a Sumerian devil-trap'.... Perhaps the Seal of Solomon? You did say 'djinn'? How was this entity called, and stranded? I'd be pissed off too if I found myself anchored to a spot without access to leave. Then again, is it a Djinn or is it poltergeist? Thanks for letting me ramble...


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post Mar 27 2005, 02:54 PM
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It sounds like a poltergeist to me, that is why I think expert help should be sought. Keep us informed of events and actions taken.

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post Mar 27 2005, 05:55 PM
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Then again, there is always the possibility that the old lady has snapped and is making things up/trying to be interesting. This is an unpopular interpretation, especially in occult circles, but I've never heard of any entity dragging somebody under the bed.
As to the role of fecal smells in it, I will not comment the obvious. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)


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post Mar 27 2005, 06:14 PM
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I've seen someone thrown off a bed by a rogue entity. It's not that amazing to hear of someone dragged under one in my opinion.


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post Mar 27 2005, 06:42 PM
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QUOTE(Sheal @ Mar 22 2005, 08:10 PM)
Can you suggest any other forms of help?

Athena has a very good point. You first need to ID the entity and also try to get it's name. If you need other people to do this, I've read a lady on www.astralhealer.com has a good reputation and specialized in this area.


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My curiosity is piqued. For the record...how old is the daughter/granddaughter? Also, how old are you? The reason I ask is that as a lad I was always surrounded by fairly intense telekinetic/poltergeist phenomena. This phenomena subsided considerably as I entered my twenties. Djinn are rarely captured without knowing their names and almost never by totally green novices. Do your homework before proceeding....it probably is best to get an expert to deal with this. *sigh*


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post Mar 28 2005, 04:42 AM
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Actually this sort of thing does happen a lot. It is not common by any means, by a lot I mean often enough to have make it into studies and books, and enough that the Catholic church (and I'm sure others) trains priests in how to deal with it. It is not common enough that one has to worry about it, but common enough that it is usually looked into. Yes, there are several accounts of people being dragged accross the room and much more! I will pass on the details.
Also, there is a wide variety of being that can be capeable of something like this, I will only list the more likely ones. A strong spirit of a dead person, a Djinn etc.
Like I mentioned earlier, it should be checked into just in case they are telling the truth as these sorts of things can be very dangerous. If it is a Djinn for sure a Cleric, and if it is a poltergeist/shade/ghost a Catholic Priest. And beleive it or not, most Catholic churches take things like this VERY seriously!
So now don't get all worried, the chances of this happening to anyone is probably less than 1 in a hundred thousand or something, so yes you can sleep at night (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
And to whoever posted this at first if you are serious you can get ahold of me privatly and let me know which area you are from and I might be able to help you get in touch with people experienced with this sort of thing.
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Sheal can you get ahold of me [email protected] me a note with an email address I can get ahold of you at...I will tell you further ...Thanks

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Well this is what I would do:

I would cast a circle and pentagram. Summon the elements for guidance and protection. Then enter a trance where I could project myself on the astral plains. Let your intent take you to the problematic room. I'd be willing to bet $100 you could see this entity on the astral. This will be so much better, and safer, than actually going into the enchanted area and hoping to get in contact with the entity. For one your physical body can't be harmed. For two you can see it and not just talk to it. It makes conversation so much easier and direct. Make sure you are bathed in protective light. Once you see the entity (I can picture this Djinn as this white entity with blue eyes a white crown and big temper, thats just me) Now you engage it in conversation. And introduction is nice. State who your are your intentions to end this and ask who he is and make sure he knows your trying to harm him. Find its reason for being there. It will probably tell you that its original caster didn't do it right and the Djinn ended up getting stuck. Hence why its not so happy (stupid humans!). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) Anyway find out who it is, why its there and what it wants. I can image it wants to get the hell outta there. Now that you have a why and what answered ask how to accomplish the task. Ask him to tell you in a way you will remember. If its something you can't do tell him so he'll make neccessary corrections and you won't have to come back saying you couldn't do. Thereby making a false promise. Ask when it must be completed by. Give him your word you will accomplish this task in exchange for him to not distrub the piece of your house hold. End the ritual, re-enter your body banish your elements close your circle yadda yadda yadda and do what you were asked.

Now is not the time to be afraid. If you fear you will be kicked back into your body and the ritual will be done for the day. Do not atempt this more than once a day. The drain can be emmense and it may feed him to the point where you'll just need to move out. Or at least really find an expert.

There I hope something in that you can find useful!

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Well? Did it work and has the Djinn gone?

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if it's a jinn u go to www.indotalisman.com

u can get lot of spells( easy ways) to get rid of that entity

if need more help P.M. me
i'll give u mantras to banish that jinn and i'll tell how to bind that house for protection later.

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QUOTE(Radiant Star @ Mar 27 2005, 11:42 AM)
This type of attack need serious expert help and even if you manage to dampen its ardour with smudging and other techniques, it will be lying in wait until your minor annoyances have abated and then will start again with great intent.

Try to get hold of someone from a local (or not) spiritualist church or association or even a Christian set-up, the only problem with the Christian lot is getting them to take you seriously and getting fast help. Not sure where you are situated, but Googling with 'spiritualist' might offer some good links.

Wish you well here. Horrid and quite rare in comparison to other visiting types fortunately.

A Djinn will tear a Christan apart like paper. One needs real magick not more Jesus trash. Christanity is a copy of many religions and has no true soild base. I have been told I will go to hell and I always laugh at such comments.
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post Nov 30 2005, 01:32 AM
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QUOTE(AlricThomas @ Nov 30 2005, 02:24 AM)
A Djinn will tear a Christan apart like paper. One needs real magick not more Jesus trash. Christanity is a copy of many religions and has no true soild base. I have been told I will go to hell and I always laugh at such comments.
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A rather crass generalisation. Christianity has a very rich heritage and belief system, you should look past the current state of most of the organised church and seek the truth beneath. It is not my personal choice but it does have a power and truth to it, otherwise it would not have lasted 2000+ years.

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QUOTE(mediocracy @ Nov 30 2005, 03:32 AM) *
A rather crass generalisation. Christianity has a very rich heritage and belief system, you should look past the current state of most of the organised church and seek the truth beneath. It is not my personal choice but it does have a power and truth to it, otherwise it would not have lasted 2000+ years.


assimilation is the only reason the xtian church has lasted for all these years

you should see them dancin round the circle on easter mornin on the beach at dawn

ha!

there are so many spells to call, dispell or send a jinn away - hundreds - out of the box and in the box and all sorts of different boxes

do a google search

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more than christianity, i guess you will find better power to deal with the evil djinn from the Quran. Even Prophet mohammud was the prophet of humans and Djinns.... The Quran in the house itself will do wonders towards such djinns but you need to know some verses too concerning djinns ;-)


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When dealing with 'guests' of this sort in one's home, here's what I'd recommend:

1. Perform a divination to discover the Entity's name. When you have Its name you can command it & if necessary bind and banish it.

2. Enter into a trance state to make contact with it once you have Its name to discover what it wants. It may just be honked off for being summoned and not given the wherewithal to return to Its home. Don't ass-u-me that every michievous Spirit is trying to do someone in 'just because'. They do not operate that way. It's a good idea to perform this while sitting in a consecrated circle unless you don't mind working with possession states of trance. It would help to have someone else here to question the Spirit while you're being possessed.

3. Ask it from whence it hails and if you could help it to get back where it came from. I have yet to have one tell me no it's happy here. That's too Hollyweird for reality. Rather when it agrees, ask it for any formula you need on your end to help it make a gateway back home for it.

* Note: This could be something as simple as conjuring up a doorway for it OR just incanting the correct words for it to be able to go home.

4. Do it.

That's what has worked for me in the past. But remember use some common sense. Stop buying into all of the RPG & Hollyweird nonsense as valid magical technique.


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One thing I have learned is that Djinns, like humans have free will
to choose their faith. also like humans, you have some really good ones,
some okay ones, some bad ones, and some that should be on some
serious psychotropic drugs, or in a straight jacket with the key thrown
away. (Ive known some humans that belonged in the latter categories).

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