From The Void Options

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Form is void and void is form.
-- The Heart Sutra

Void must always have an opening.

If it did not there would be no gate and no void.

The word itself is in error to it's meaning - it's magically related meaning.

Well, most words denoting such concepts are, in general. A strange paradox one comes upon in a certain level writings and what not.

I am not greatly preoccupied with this concept - of course it would be impossible to be fully occupied with it - because it never would have happened - or rather if it did - I would have nothing to say about it - it being nothing at all.

I would have nothing to say about it - it being nothing at all.

Well, nothing at all..and everything..at the same time.

Form is void and void is form

Nothing and everything at the same time would not be the void that would be existence. Or rather the base of it.
The void does not exist it is only the boundary of a given reality.

lol i love this.
To me, the void is nothing... No thing, blank, its hard to comprehend because you can't picture it in your mind lol but ALL is everything, and when I say everything I include nothing lol.
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ALL = EVERYTHING = NOTHING (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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I agree. This crude matter we inhabit on this plane must be divided and subdivided for its many manifestations.

Form is void and void is form.
-- The Heart Sutra

Combining the above, I postulate that there is a point from which all concepts emanate, an alchemical quintessence of the ideas of Nothing, Something, Everything, and Anything, denoting Void, Manifestation, Unity, and Chaos.

I tried to meditate on that center-point...and nearly killed myself out of madness trying to understand it. It made no sense to me. But, on a quieter, deeper level, I know it exists. For some reason, I cannot fathom it with my higher mind.

Perhaps that is because the higher mind was simply meant to deal with this world only, and our deeper mind is meant to deal with the deeper realities...

for those that haven't seen it, here's my how-to for touching the void (from my whacked perspective, ymmv):

http://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?act...ype=post&id=867

note: the website does not exist anymore - use white noise, like a radio station tuned wrong, or a tv on an empty channel - best to record it and play it back through headphones - the idea is to drown out all extraneous worldly noise, then, using meditation and self-hypgnosis, to tune out the extraneous feelings and nerves and itches of the body - lose the physical completely and become aware of the void

This post has been edited by esoterica: Aug 21 2009, 10:01 AM

The void is darkness. It is all of it. It is the absence of all things, even the self. To truly see it is to not exist, to be nothing. To see the void you become it. It swallows you and you disappear. The self is gone and nothingness fills you. You don't necessarily die when this happens, but something worse happens. You no longer exist. Now to come back from the void, that's something. Wink haha. It makes a damn good story too.