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post Nov 21 2006, 11:09 PM
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A demon by the name of "Dibock" (that's how it's pronounced try also deebak, debak,dibok,debock). Please help on this one. Very important.

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post Nov 22 2006, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE(r9999 @ Nov 22 2006, 09:09 AM) *
A demon by the name of "Dibock" (that's how it's pronounced try also deebak, debak,dibok,debock). Please help on this one. Very important.


you just wanted to get along the ancient ones??? May be some of theirs are interested in you :-) whats the deal with this demon?


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post Nov 22 2006, 05:33 PM
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Well, it's very complicated, but in short this demon seems to be coming in dreams to my mother and also my sister, and my sister has a debilitating illness which I think is somehow related to this demon. It's more complicated, but if you give me some information on this demon, I could try to relate to what the hell it wants.

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post Nov 22 2006, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(r9999 @ Nov 22 2006, 06:33 PM) *
Well, it's very complicated, but in short this demon seems to be coming in dreams to my mother and also my sister, and my sister has a debilitating illness which I think is somehow related to this demon. It's more complicated, but if you give me some information on this demon, I could try to relate to what the hell it wants.



first thing I would recomend you do is get rid of the notion that the demon has "legal authority over you" and that it "cannot be banished completely."


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post Nov 22 2006, 06:43 PM
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This was before I started the evocation business, I want to note that my grandfather was examined by an RCC priest for posession (he only found out a long time later, it's complicated, basically it was part of his life for a long time and he just lived with it until his old age when he managed to expel the thing from himself through prayer and saintly living for Jesus Christ). I also want to note that I believe these demons have legal authority from God to do what they want since I meddle in the occult, I just don't want this to affect my family, it's *MY* problem. Therefore I'm attempting to gather information on this demon and assess my options...... this is serious since I believe this thing has been around for a LONG time, and it has something to do with the family for the above noted reasons. My guess is my great-grandfather or somebody else did something they weren't supposed to and passed the "familiar" or whatever you want to call it along to the others. Since then....well.

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post Nov 22 2006, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(distillate @ Nov 22 2006, 05:13 PM) *
first thing I would recomend you do is get rid of the notion that the demon has "legal authority over you" and that it "cannot be banished completely."


Amen to that.

@R9999: the fact that all your posts on this subject are dripping with fear isn't going to help your cause. If you keep up the notion that this thing is sent by God to punish your family, you stand all the chances of the proverbial snowflake in Hell for fighting this thing off.

Honestly? If you read the medieval grimoires God gave us express power to deal with these little bastards. I don't mean to sound rude, but get some backbone, arm yourself, and show this annoying little bugger who's REALLY boss. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sport_boxing.gif) (Hint: it's not him)

Let us know how it works out.


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post Nov 22 2006, 07:32 PM
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I'll try banishing this thing, but I keep thinking if that story in the NT of a guy who tried to exorcise without invoking God's name for the task, plus I do deserve to be punished, I just don't want this thing meddling with my family, and for that I will rough it up be it a demon or whatnot. I am only bound to respect it's judgements against me proper, not my family. It has no legal authority over them (except my children- God can allow generational curses but that's another matter I'll solve later....)

I also want some info on who this demon is. The name is pronounced "DEE-BOC" I don't know what sort of permutation this could give-Deebock,Diboc,Deebauk,etc.

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post Nov 22 2006, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(r9999 @ Nov 22 2006, 08:32 PM) *
I'll try banishing this thing, but I keep thinking if that story in the NT of a guy who tried to exorcise without invoking God's name for the task, plus I do deserve to be punished, I just don't want this thing meddling with my family, and for that I will rough it up be it a demon or whatnot. I am only bound to respect it's judgements against me proper, not my family. It has no legal authority over them (except my children- God can allow generational curses but that's another matter I'll solve later....)

I also want some info on who this demon is. The name is pronounced "DEE-BOC" I don't know what sort of permutation this could give-Deebock,Diboc,Deebauk,etc.



then invoke Gods name if that will give you strength. I am still boggled to why you think this way.Have you been talking to catholic exorist or something? My friend lived in mexico city for a bit with Aztec Socerers and shamans, they were able to cure illness, exorsise demons ect... without even saying the word jesus once.


edit to add: I missed when you said "I want to note that my grandfather was examined by an RCC priest for posession "

Now you do not have to listen to me but what ever supersitious nonsense this preist tells you FORGET ABOUT IT!

meditate and fast for a month, try chanting nam-myoho-renge-kyo over and over while you meditate.
If you feel comfortable start doing the LBRP ritual twice a day. Ask your God to come to you. Most important thing is for you to feel stronger to conquer this pest(because that all it really is).

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post Nov 22 2006, 08:02 PM
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i'll fiigure out a solution to this problem...

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post Nov 22 2006, 08:07 PM
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QUOTE(r9999 @ Nov 22 2006, 09:02 PM) *
i'll fiigure out a solution to this problem...



just remember not to give it more power then it has.


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post Nov 23 2006, 08:36 PM
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OK. I just don't like the thought of superimposing my will on a son of God, a being above me. I have my place in the current hierarchy and you are supposed to respect (but not fear) devils.

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post Nov 24 2006, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(r9999 @ Nov 23 2006, 09:36 PM) *
OK. I just don't like the thought of superimposing my will on a son of God, a being above me. I have my place in the current hierarchy and you are supposed to respect (but not fear) devils.



yet you see no problem with Dibock superimposing his will on your life?


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post Nov 24 2006, 05:13 PM
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He has the legal authority to do so. I was a prick occult dwelling/studying individual (and still am or else I wouldn't be here) and must suffer the consequences of the transgression. If I oppose a spirit which has God's green light to inflict harm on me, then I oppose God (which would make my crime double). All I'm attempting to do at the moment is beg God to free my family from the consequences and if he is gracious enough, me. I'm still attempting to find information on this demon, who is this Dibock? Maybe it's a cognate of Moloch/Milqart or some other mesopotamian, don't know. If you have info on him please send it to me....

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post Nov 25 2006, 05:19 PM
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The only thing I can say is u must be open to the fact that the demon in question might be a phantom of ur own creation. this kind of stuff happens more often than u think. If u r willing, I can point u in the direction of certain Exorcisms--but they r in the Necronomicon. And u will have to learn to use magick--but first u must give ur self "room to work". By that I mean the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram must be learned and used. Dont worry, if u look over that ritual u will find u r invoking the Arch-Angels Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel in it. Check it out.........

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post Nov 26 2006, 03:22 AM
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QUOTE(Suxur-Mash596 @ Nov 25 2006, 06:19 PM) *
The only thing I can say is u must be open to the fact that the demon in question might be a phantom of ur own creation. this kind of stuff happens more often than u think. If u r willing, I can point u in the direction of certain Exorcisms--but they r in the Necronomicon. And u will have to learn to use magick--but first u must give ur self "room to work". By that I mean the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram must be learned and used. Dont worry, if u look over that ritual u will find u r invoking the Arch-Angels Michael, Gabriel, Raphael, and Uriel in it. Check it out.........

laterz



Yes, the LBRP, and the LBHH will not hurt.


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Greetings,

I would think that any form of exorcism would solve the problem. Have you considered that this could be some form of astral vampire?

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post Nov 26 2006, 08:16 PM
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I don't know much on astral vampires. I have read that demons and fallen angels are fundamentally different in nature though. By astral vampire you mean some being that feeds off suffering or whatnot I suppose? The lesser ritual of the pentagram is the one in the Lemegeton right?

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QUOTE(r9999 @ Nov 26 2006, 09:16 PM) *
I don't know much on astral vampires. I have read that demons and fallen angels are fundamentally different in nature though. By astral vampire you mean some being that feeds off suffering or whatnot I suppose? The lesser ritual of the pentagram is the one in the Lemegeton right?


the lesser banishing of the pentagram covers the micro, the banishing of the hexagram covers the macro.


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post Dec 17 2006, 02:30 AM
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Apologies for thread bumping, after it's been so long, but I had to interject something I read recently. Of all things, I read this in a book chronicling the history of the vampire.

The Hebrews had a spirit called a Dybbuk, Gilgul, or "clinging soul". It was a vampiric entity that manifested as a demon, or devil. They would possess people, and the person becoming possessed would typically exhibit the following symptoms: listlessness/tiredness, they would begin to twitch or spasm, and vomit forth a whitish foam. The foam, as I understand, is one of the final stages of possession on the accord of a Dybbuk. The Testament of Patriarchs suggests that they are entities that never truly lived a life that is for all intents and purposes alive. They were supposedly children of Lilith, who had birthed over 1,000 demons and other entities that began to be known as Liln. An alternative to this theory, also suggested by the aforementioned book, is that they were created by sorcery. There was also a supposed third type, though widely dismissed as tomfoolery, known by the Hebrews as the Yezer-Ha-Ra, a vampiric demon that would launch itself on a dutiful worshiper as they were leaving the temple and as they fed, fill their heads with notions of lust, at an incredible pace. Also attested to along with the possession was the ability to prophecy - a sign that the possessed was losing the fight.

Now, to expel the spirit, it was considered necessary to have this done by a Rabbi. What was supposed to be done was, addressing the Dybbuk directly and ascertaining its name, that is to say, its earthly name (knowing full well that the entity knows what you are about and will do everything it can to mislead you). The name could then be used to expel the spirit, in some form of invocation. Some involve a parchment with names of god written in a particular order, inhaling certain herbs, amulets made of wax, iron, or steel hung from the doorway, engraved with the star of david, the name Yahweh, or an outstretched hand... Etc. Unfortunately, what is most available on the subject is prevention... I did find one chant, though, in particular.

"My mother has told me to beware of shabiri, biri, riri, iri, ri" - Shabiri is the Hebrew word for blindness, another symptom associated with Dybbuk possession.

In some folktales, the little finger or pinky toe was suggested to be the place the Dybbuk inhabited, and the Rabbi would only address this part. Another superstition on the subject is that a hole had to be drilled somewhere in the building to allow the Dybbuk, in the shape of a fly or moth, to escape. usually this hole was in the windowsill, and if this was not done, the spirit would just attach itself to another member of the family.

The book I used as reference for this was "Vampires: A Field Guide to the Creatures that Stalk the Night" by Dr. Bob Curran, if anyone's curious.

All the best, I wish to you my friend.


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post Jan 19 2007, 03:24 PM
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If you see the Demon, Wise thing to do is:

Demon, What is your name? (So you can pray against him)

Demon, What zodiacial sign do you frequent? (So you know where it lives)

Demon, Under what angels or spirits name do you fall subject to? (You know it's master)

Threat: Demon, If you don't tell me, I will summon one you fall subject to, and have him command you by the power of the Pentalpha.It is a symbol which Solomon conceived once to betoken holy truth, by its intrinsic right, for it is a figure which has five points, and each line overlaps and is locked with another; And it is endless everywhere, and the English call it, In all the land, I hear, the Endless Knot.

Note: Demons are overloaded with inner fears, try to attack those fears, and the demon(s) will
fall subject to your command. The biggest fear of demons resides in insecurities about the future. Primarily their future treatment by others. Some demons may be able to peer a bit into the future, in this case, they are even more scared, when you warn them about their future.

Warning: Seeing a demon, is perhaps the most frightening experience possible, it will sometimes cause your flesh to change color, pale grey/green/purple, and it's often normal that when somebody sees a demon, their eyes will actually glow bright light light they are on fire. It's good to not have kids around, when your commanding a demon. Also, demons coming out of people, can sometimes hurt them really bad physically in a final attempt. I've seen a guy getting punched so hard by a demon that it threw him 1/3 the distance of the football field we were in.
He also levitated, threw up, and couldn't breath. The next day, he didn't even know what happened to him.

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QUOTE(Eabatu @ Nov 25 2006, 05:19 PM) *
The only thing I can say is u must be open to the fact that the demon in question might be a phantom of ur own creation. this kind of stuff happens more often than u think.
laterz


I am really more or less inclined to agree with Eabatu here. In my opinion, your study of the occult and your guilt thereof is causing this demon to manifest from your mind. Now, that does not make it any less real. As above so below. What exists in reality exists in your mind, and what exists in your mind exists in reality. What it does change, is how to get rid of it. Banishings and exorcisms will work, but I fear that it or something else would possibly come back until you let go of the guilt you have over studying techniques of ascending (or descending if that your think lol) the soul. "Heaven is within you." We are all just trying to find that heaven, and I really doubt that your God, whose son made that statement btw, is angry at you for trying to find that heaven which is within you. Once you come to terms with that, I have a feeling that just about any banishing technique which you use will dispell this entity entirely.


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post Jan 20 2007, 07:50 AM
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"managed to expel the thing from himself through prayer and saintly living for Jesus Christ"

:cough:

ok if it is a real 'dibbuk' then it is a jewish inferior demon and you can check it up sharp by reading it the torah (in jewish - get one of those records of the folks by the wailing wall and play it repeatedly) - it'll go if you put intent into it

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