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post Nov 1 2007, 04:01 PM
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Saw this article today - as someone who has lost a lot of friends to HIV, it struck me as having profound implications for the future. How would have thought the possibility of a cure like that would come in the form of a laser, rather than something pharmaceutical?

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/n.../11/laser_virus

I also thought it interesting the idea of using light, tuned to a particular vibration, to do this sort of thing. Granted, my own healing sessions at least, don't involve micropulse laser shots of light, but just the fact that in involves principles that have been touted as healing mechanisms for such a long time... I dunno, I'm one of those who sees technology as particularly magickal. Sure we understand it, but I understand magick as well, that doesn't make the principles less amazing. Makes me wonder about the nature of magickal tools described in old texts and what not, though, but that's a whole other discussion.

thought I'd share.

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post Nov 1 2007, 08:04 PM
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Wow who would have thought something relatively simple could "possibly" treat HIV and the like.

Ok so it's not that simple, but the theory behind it is. It's amazing how some people come up with this stuff.

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post Nov 1 2007, 08:11 PM
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Wow, this's actually pretty awesome. Looks like they're microwaving those viruses to death. Like how plastic in the microwave doesn't resonate, while water does, so the water heats up while the plastic stays cool, except these thingies are at the resonant frequency of (stuff on) the virus, leaving everything else not an even multiple of that in length relatively unheated and unharmed.


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post Nov 1 2007, 09:34 PM
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There is reason to note that in all likely hood 90% of the big killers of today will be gone in 30 years. So much so that kids being born today can expect (short of some type of dark age) to live to 120 as if it was 70 today and possibly 200 as if it where 90. things get odd at 170 most people think.

This is due to a combination of things, from hormone treatment and the like to nano technologies.

This is cool in that if made portable (semi trailer portable) it will allow for a great deal of other applications. From what I read this is not a cure for AIDS, but it lowers risk in the blood supply, and this along with some type of dialysis like system should keep the virus totally at bay.

Now, that said, science is truly on the brink with nano technology. What it offers is a radical change from design based on materials to materials based on design. It will not be cheap early on, and the medical field will probably see it first, but it also means things like transparent steel, and or all building materials being solar panels. As well as keeping the roof up.

Technology is moving faster then many people give it credit for, the communication boom has yet to be felt in areas that have not changed much since the 50s.


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post Nov 1 2007, 11:12 PM
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post Nov 2 2007, 07:57 PM
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Biology is stuck in the 19 century, once the field of medicine accepts that there have been advances in physics (what everything they do is based on) we can expect to live much much longer. Heck, even if the grip the Pharmaceutical industry was broken, there'd at least be hundreds of thousands less deaths yearly from misunderstood uses of drugs.
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post Nov 2 2007, 10:02 PM
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Seeker, I disagree on many levels. While I agree many of the fundamentals where brought about in the 19th century. Surgery, testing, drugs have all made huge leaps and continue to do so. Arthroscopic surgery in many cases is the difference of 2 weeks without full mobility and 2 months in bed.

I honestly believe you would be shocked at the difference just looking at care from 1980 to today, the level of difference and illness management. You can not compare the level of care available at any major hospital today even to the level of the best in the country in a chosen specialty 27 years ago.

Now on to the drug companies…this is a big one. The modern capitalistic system has no incentive to find cures, they have incentive for finding lasting treatments.

This is in part because of the Nash equilibrium, where there is enough for everyone at the troth.

That said, any of the socialistic models of medicine have no incentive for Research and Development….so we are left in a quandary.

Where I hope to see nano technology in 20 years would go something like this.

I get to the doctors office, the nurse checks me in, and gives me a solution to drink, while I am waiting.

When I pass through the waiting room door to the “examination room” the nanites I ingested in the solution are activated. This is a combination of nanites that examine everything on a cellular level, like a few million blood hounds seeking different abnormalities and or normality.

By the time the doctor rolls in, he already has the results of my complete scan, if nothing major he makes small talk, and then recommends a better vitamin or supplement, or more exercise. If something minor, I am given another solution of nanites, that literally cut out the problem while monitored by a technician.

If a major or delicate issue, same thing happens but through a specialist.

Then if major they have to put me on a dialysis machine, if not I will urinate the inactive nanites the next time I urinate.

For extreme situations, people will have doses of nanite and monitors implanted into their body, at the first sign of trouble, nanites are deployed and problem overcome.

Second, I hope tat research into our own bodies healing capability is improved, and the drugs of the future don’t really do much then stimulate our own body to create the chemicals needed to ward off certain diseases.

It is at this time, where we will see a huge difference between the haves and have-nots. If say everyone in the developed world has full access healthcare and they are living with full reproductive capabilities into their 100’s looking and reacting like a 30-40 year old at that time. The populations in those locations will dwindle or explode depending on other quality of life issues.

One would be capable of legally having a child with someone 5 or 6 times their age, we would not be thinking of passing our things to our grandchildren but to our great great grand children.

One woman could conceivably have 80+ children in her life.

On the flip side, countries still with limited basic needs being met, would have their elites living as in or better then in developed countries, and the poor there would be living much as they do now (30-50 year expected life span) so there would be an uprising on many levels. However the capability of developed countries to defend themselves compared to none developed would also make it impossible to do. Only peaceful protest would make it.

Anyway the idea of advancement I think we will see more in the near future will be with bioengineering, creating plants that produce sap that is a medicine, or that can be used for fuel.

Advancement in education, is the biggie for me. I do not see anything stopping the ability to give children the equivalent of a bachelor’s degree in most disciplines as well as a level of social sexual and spiritual maturity by the time these kids are out of highschool. And for the most part it would be 4-10 hours of class a day. With 6 hours of homework. The reasons we are not there are as much social as they are ineptitude and lack of advancement, in fact going backwards in the US.

Much of this would require a totally new way of teaching, but it is clear with many of the home-schooled kids (with two college educated parents) that they can complete high school by 13 in most cases. It would require schools to have a gravity pulling for that goal as opposed to the lowest common denominator.

The only issue there are the abstractions, such as math, physics, arts, and so on. Development in different areas happens for people at different ages, and it is important that the curriculum be tailored to each student.

Only way to do this is reduce class sizes incredibly with younger students, and yet allowing them to be in higher level classes as they are deemed capable. Instead of a young child being first in the class in math all the time, he will be in a class where he can barely keep up. Mean while he may be in a very basic level of literature, or biology.

Would children be left behind? Yes, but not to the degree they are now because they totally tune out. You would have a predictable percentage that do not make it to trigonometry by 18. Same with all the other disciplines.

On the flip side, you will be ably to have instructions and lectures from the top educators in the field, based on the learning style of each student in that field, after 3rd or 4th grade, most of the in class teachers will be mostly there to answer questions or assist in whatever way they are able. At the same time, older students (by three years) will assist as well. This ties into the social aspect of the curriculum. Students assisting others, looking at the same problems they faced from a different perspective, forming bonds through helping…..

I know it is far fetched, but from what I have seen with children who are not incredibly exceptional, except in their academic achievements. And they can totally do this. But this would require such a fundamental change in the institution that I don’t know if it is possible. The public schools are the only entity with the money to dedicate to 20 or 30 styles of curriculum per child. Yet their inbred maintain the status quo, require more money and accept less responsibility model is terribly broken. But the technology is there today to do this.

If standardized tests are the system of accountability, it would be more practical to hire test taking instructors for the 2 months prior to the major test, and tech the kids how to take those tests, then it is to teach them only that for the whole year. This would only eat up an hour or two a day, Vs. the current system of only teaching based on material on the test.
But this is a rant for another place.


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post Sep 8 2011, 04:33 PM
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Depending on how the research is coming along, it might not be long until the US Government has them assassinated for endangering the profits of the drug companies. It is clear that this has happened to Senator Shaeffer when she tried to reveal to the public that the Child Protective Services are wrongfully taking children from inncoent parents to capitalize on state funding.

Regarding living longer, it is my theory that a nudist lifestyle can extend life, by providing more air to the skin and body (letting your skin breathe better).


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post Sep 9 2011, 02:54 AM
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It reminds me of the Amazon's purple healing ray in Wonder Woman. Anyone know if it is purple? But seriously, it looks promising. Other than that it is too early to say.


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post Sep 11 2011, 02:11 AM
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One of the best news to read in a long time.

This sounds very promising indeed but I'm afraid they will be very unfair on it's use to the rest of the world. Either a very VERY expensive treatment or a treatment very secretive only to those people with special permissions like from the army or something like that.
I just hope I'm proven wrong all the way.

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post Sep 14 2011, 01:02 AM
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Nanotech is still developing but research into medical applications appears to be zero. But when one road is closed another opens. See http://quantumtouch.groupee.net/eve/forums...72/m/2377006906 . I've seen things like this; apparent "miraculous" healings. If we don't see medical nanites in our lifetime we may see something much weirder but just as effective.

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post Sep 22 2011, 09:20 PM
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This is quite interesting indeed!

I wouldn't say though that the tools of today are anything out of the ordinary; they are simply subject to the times. I find a lot of people base the things they do on things which were the 'norm' many years ago.. for instance the idea of wearing a Robe.. for a person to wear a Robe today may seem quite strange in normal mundane life; although years ago it could have been quite a typical thing. People base the wearing of a Robe to be significally important to magick work; however they hardly identify the idea that many years ago this was possibly just what people wore on a daily basis, and they are just reading old books (or books written by people who base all they say off times when Robe's were common-place).

I wouldn't think that the harnessing of light through a mechanical device would be anything but common for our day; just the fact that someone has connected this idea towards a healing nature shows that a lot of the 'old ways' are still very much alive; and living in the minds of people who would never think that what they are doing is anything but solely scientific. It's funny how many Pagan and magickal folk exist in this world; hidden behind things they believe are taboo to bring forth.. if the 'inventor' of this idea spoke of this as magickal, he wouldn't be very well accepted by his/her peers. And to that end, it seems a little bit funny again that we have 'evolved' so much as people that the world actually would shun a person for making such a logical connection as you've made here.

QUOTE(Vagrant Dreamer @ Nov 1 2007, 06:01 PM) *

Saw this article today - as someone who has lost a lot of friends to HIV, it struck me as having profound implications for the future. How would have thought the possibility of a cure like that would come in the form of a laser, rather than something pharmaceutical?

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/n.../11/laser_virus

I also thought it interesting the idea of using light, tuned to a particular vibration, to do this sort of thing. Granted, my own healing sessions at least, don't involve micropulse laser shots of light, but just the fact that in involves principles that have been touted as healing mechanisms for such a long time... I dunno, I'm one of those who sees technology as particularly magickal. Sure we understand it, but I understand magick as well, that doesn't make the principles less amazing. Makes me wonder about the nature of magickal tools described in old texts and what not, though, but that's a whole other discussion.

thought I'd share.

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