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post Oct 4 2012, 08:19 PM
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I'd like to hear any and all systems in which a person uses to achieve Gnosis. This is very important to me as I am looking for quite a few new methods to test.

I myself have used the "Wank Method", a method involving cutting off air to the brain and right before passing out you allow your mind to flood with air, and I've used certain forms of meditation. I'd love to hear any methods that you guys use.

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post Oct 5 2012, 07:34 PM
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Thank you both very much for your answers, and while this did serve to help I'm more looking for specific examples of methods used to "set off" a sigil. Like for example, both you mentioned meditation. If you don't mind I'd like a detailed description of how you charge a sigil during meditation. Or possibly, how do you do it through dance or exercise? Thank you both very much.

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QUOTE(Azrael. @ Oct 5 2012, 09:34 PM) *

Thank you both very much for your answers, and while this did serve to help I'm more looking for specific examples of methods used to "set off" a sigil. Like for example, both you mentioned meditation. If you don't mind I'd like a detailed description of how you charge a sigil during meditation. Or possibly, how do you do it through dance or exercise? Thank you both very much.


I'd kind of like to throttle AO Spare for using the word gnosis in that context.

What you're asking is how to charge a sigil, not on how to achieve Gnosis. Gnosis is a direct mystical or spiritual insight, transcendent of intellectual understanding.

As for charging a sigil, there are lots of ways. I think that the key is that whatever you are doing is centered on the sigil itself - it is the recipient of the action. You could say that whatever method you use should be done for the sigil, in a similar mindset to the sacrifice. It should be a process of giving birth, in a way, as you are intentionally imparting life to the sigil. The specifics of how it is done are not vague, they are just nonspecific. Just about anything can be done if it is done with the proper sincerity. Trying to define a specific method and saying "this method is how you do it" technically runs counter to the paradigm from which the practice recently arises.

That said, let's say for instance you want to use dance. You might create a large version of the sigil - draw it in the sand on a beach at night, or paint it on a large canvas or roll of paper. Or get stones and form the sigil on the ground in the woods or your yard (depending on where you live!) You might have a big empty room where you might paint it on the wall in glow paint and set up black lights. Turn on some loud music either appropriate to the purpose or just appropriate to get your glands pumping, and then, however you set it up, dance yourself into an ecstatic frenzy. It isn't just about dancing though, not in an of itself. In this case, you'd need to be focused on the idea that your movement, your energy, the life you are displaying in this act is committed entirely to the awakening of this sigil. You are dancing with the sigil, for it, inside it, waking it up and giving it life.

There are a lot of lukewarm methods. If you are such a person with a great deal of control and focus, able to commit your energy to a symbol entirely for some length of time, then it's enough to simply stare intently, bringing your will to a sharp focus and moving your energy into the symbol this way. Maybe you're such a person - you just have to be honest with yourself about that.

Masturbation is a method that can work, but most people get caught up in trying to get off when they do it. Again, the point isn't to reach orgasm, the point is to commit the act for the benefit of the sigil. So don't wander off in your head and fantasize. Keep your gaze fixed on the sigil, or keep it in your mind's eye. Feel that as the sensation and energy arise in you, they are arising also in the sigil, that when your energy explodes outward, the same is true for the energy in the sigil. It isn't your orgasm, get it?

Meditation is more complicated, charging a sigil through meditation successfully requires a degree of competency at meditation and rest your awareness firmly on the sigil. This doesn't mean that you visualize it, although it starts that way. It means that you first discover your abiding awareness, learn how to center your awareness elsewhere than your head, and then use that skill to center your awareness on the sigil. Here again, the point is not just meditation, but to meditate for the sigil, to impart the spiritual nature of awareness onto the sigil itself.

There are not very detailed descriptions to give. The problem is that it is about sincere intention and commitment, not instructions for making an omelet. Though as with an omelet, even detailed instructions won't cut it - the keys to a good omelet are acute attention, and patience.

The second aspect to the sigil is to get it implanted in your subconscious. It's often believed that doing something like getting yourself off while staring at it somehow plants it in the sub or unconscious mind. This isn't so, it's an oversimplification of the process. It is the nature of the experience of charging the sigil - described in principle above - that does that, so it has to be a somewhat unique and 'memorable' experience. Then, to let that experience which your unconscious mind will earmark as unusual (think about how you remember the truly 'memorable' moments in your life but forget the everyday stuff within a few weeks at the most) be released fully into the deep mind you have to forget it intentionally. There are a variety of methods, mostly you just have to put the sigil away where you will not look at it and not think to look at it - so, not your special sigil box, in my opinion, although some people keep a sigil book. I found this makes it impossible to forget them.

Another method of forgetting is to charge a bunch of sigils all at once. I forget the man's name, but there is a chaos magician out there who refers to this as 'shoaling' - the way a school of fish is more successful by sticking together. Make a dozen or several dozen sigils that all have a slightly similar style to them, all to accomplish the same task but in slightly different ways, or to accomplish complimentary parts of a single task, then mix them up and charge them together. Within days it will be basically impossible to recall which sigil does what, but your deep mind knows and remembers. This is a very effective method, but it takes some ingenuity and planning so that you don't have sigils at cross purposes with one another.

So use whatever method you want. All that matters are these things:
1. You are sincere in the activity, for this purpose and for no other purpose at all. Whatever you are doing, the single purpose for that activity is for the charging of the sigil.
2. You throw yourself entirely into it. Don't pause, don't wander off, don't give up because its not fun, don't wander off mentally either, don't stop to be self-conscious about it or to worry what the neighbors will think.
3. You do it and be done immediately afterwards. Don't sit back and admire the magic you just did. Pack everything up, put everything away, go do something else entirely unrelated and never think of the sigil or the experience ever again.

Don't mike sigils at cross purposes to one another, always include a time limit or an expiration date or event. The point is to do it, forget it, magic happens, then the power of the sigil is used. Don't reuse the same sigil over and over again or it will be impossible to forget about it once you've 'learned it' the way you've learned, say, spelling or math, it migrates to a different part of your mind at that point and can basically never be evicted.

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