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Chaos, the Ability to Perceive

bym	Jul 13 2005, 04:30 PM Post #1
Gone But Not Forgotten Posts: 1,244 Age: N/A Gender: Male From: New London, Connecticut, USA Reputation: 9 pts	I promised this thread on another discussion thread and now...I have to deliver. Just what makes Chaos Magic(k) chaotic? We are beings with the ability to perceive many things but is Chaos one of them? How, as organized life forms, are we able to conceptualize Chaos and then produce a 'system' of magic that utilizes this principle? (the idea of a 'system' implies order by its very nature) A close friend and I are in the middle of this debate...he's a Molecular Biophysisist and I'm a dropout. He claims evidence of chaos exists in many ways and I've asked him to illustrate this. So far I've not heard of anything objective. True, we can say 'chaos' and write 'chaos' but we are doing so with the tools of order. Let me bow out for awhile and let the over heated air cool and invite ideas from the Forum. Remember, this is a debate/discussion and we should agree to disagree rather than slinging shots! OK? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) -------------------- Rest in Peace Bym. http://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?showtopic=7662 ~The Sacred Magick Management

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bym Chaos Jul 13 2005, 04:30 PM

Alarum Ok, I disagree with you completely, and I'll r... Jul 13 2005, 06:36 PM

bym :D you make some interesting points. By your obs... Jul 13 2005, 06:50 PM

Alarum You didnt run searches and learn about what I adv... Jul 13 2005, 07:04 PM

bym "Our work shows that the environment is not j... Jul 14 2005, 06:20 AM

Alarum There is order in our small little lives, bopping ... Jul 14 2005, 10:13 AM

A_Smoking_Fox the order you can perceive is only one of two thin... Jul 14 2005, 03:03 PM

bym Excellent points! I'm not sure that I can ... Jul 14 2005, 04:32 PM

Alarum I was saying that when something actually IS ord... Jul 14 2005, 07:01 PM

bym I, alas, disagree...but I'm sure that this wil... Jul 14 2005, 07:24 PM

A_Smoking_Fox very interesting... as for perfection. Nothing is... Jul 15 2005, 01:24 AM

Rin Daemoko Do to the very nature of chaos, I can't say ve... Jul 15 2005, 04:32 PM

bym :horse: Jul 15 2005, 06:07 PM

green_pheonix very insightfull.. damn.. couldnt have put it bet... Jul 15 2005, 09:37 PM

Bb3 I think that one can definitely learn to perceive ... Jul 22 2005, 09:14 PM

Praxis To me: Chaos is the order that I do not comprehen... Aug 11 2005, 10:37 AM

bym Thank you. I find that you have said that rather w... Aug 11 2005, 12:02 PM

gavriel This is a question that has no answer. However con... Sep 3 2005, 04:19 PM

al_zaine One way of looking at it..... http://i26.photobu... Jul 21 2007, 07:26 PM

Acid09 One way of looking at it..... http://i26.photobuck... Jul 26 2007, 06:40 PM

Nill Order and disorder are two sides to the same illus... Jul 24 2007, 06:25 PM

al_zaine I agree that order and disorder are both illusion.... Jul 24 2007, 07:54 PM

al_zaine So would you say that formlessness is the true cha... Aug 1 2007, 12:27 PM

Acid09 In my opinion pure chaos and pure order cannot exi... Aug 2 2007, 05:55 PM

leolad you are trying to describe something that is washe... Aug 7 2007, 07:25 PM

Acid09 I'd argue the things you mentioned that are p... Aug 8 2007, 04:28 PM

paxx Going back to the original question… “what makes c... Sep 20 2007, 12:10 PM

Makavelli Chaos is every bit a part of the natural universe ... Dec 15 2007, 10:03 PM

balancedmagi hi... :blush: ... just a question. does it really ... Jan 19 2008, 07:51 PM

queen of the south Well,loads of good ideas.Did any of you ever hear ... Feb 15 2008, 04:05 PM

eternal ginja WOW! i forgot about writing that lol i was s... Sep 18 2008, 04:52 AM

Traceless I promised this thread on another discussion thre... Jan 19 2010, 04:54 AM

bym My point exactly! Symmetry is the organizati... Jan 19 2010, 06:56 AM

Traceless My point exactly! Symmetry is the organizatio... Jan 19 2010, 11:25 AM

SororZSD23 . . . the beginning, middle, and end; the birth, g... Jan 19 2010, 09:25 AM

bym Ah...perhaps semantics is the problem...we agree o... Jan 19 2010, 02:27 PM

Vagrant Dreamer Mmm... I am of the mind, after some meditation on ... Jan 21 2010, 10:42 PM

SororZSD23 I am much in accord with Vagrant. Chaos, technica... Jan 22 2010, 10:05 AM

Dooley Chaos and Order are abstracts steeped in semantica... Jan 23 2010, 08:07 PM

Traceless Chaos and Order are abstracts steeped in semantic... Jan 25 2010, 10:47 PM

SororZSD23 Chaos and Order are abstracts steeped in semantic... Jan 26 2010, 09:19 AM

Dooley They aren't being discussed as "things... Jan 26 2010, 02:40 PM

bym Nicely put! I may not agree on everything in p... Jan 26 2010, 10:09 AM

SororZSD23 EDIT: In conclusion, if you are discussing them a... Jan 26 2010, 04:09 PM

esoterica hi - back - well, if you lived inside one inch ins... Jan 27 2010, 09:25 AM

Praxis Six years ago, I explained what Chaos is to me as ... Nov 10 2011, 08:32 AM

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