Demon Or Egregore?, This is very serious Options

Hi everyone,

I really need some help and advice with this, I'll try to make it as brief as possible. When I was 3 years old (now 36). A family member put a Obeah curse on me and my mother, In 2007 I had the cursed items removed by a shaman. But it seems that the spirit went into hiding and was affecting me still from the astral plane.

Two nights ago the shaman and some others tried too removed this curse. But it wasn't a curse, what my shaman saw put him in Intensive care for 2 days. As the they were performing the ritual they saw a gigantic snake with two heads and horns, it had 4 legs and 4 arms it had three swords, one in each hand. It threw the shaman 6 feet in the air and bit him 2 times in the back, he barely made it out with his life.

Was the curse originally some sort of egregore that is now too strong or was it a demon that was used? I sense it may be a demon but I am not sure. I dare not even try to look for it on the astral plane. This thing is affecting me, my mother & my brother, I am told it will turn on my son too. Is there any way to get rid of it? Some feedback would be really helpful right now

thanx

this is an old thread, but something came to mind that i didn't notice before - everything was ok until she tried to undo the curse?

my whacked point of view (which can get you killed) is to attempt communication directly with the influence, but that's just me...

we think alike (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)

Disturbing stuff. I would have thought a shaman could take on any astral entity but this thing actually hospitalized him?

I've been hospitalized. it happens. in my case it was the result of being cocky and underestimating an entity.


anyway, i wonder how this situation turned out? Personally I don't know of any created entities which could do the sorts of things claimed here. my guess would lean more towards an actual non-human entity (like a "demon" if you like christian terminology/stigma). It would have to possess not only great energetic power, but also great 'know-how' to do the effects being claimed in this thread. which suggests it's quite old, rather than a recently made servitor. Plus the symbolism, snake with two heads, 3 swords, etc. it just doesn't strike me as a look which a person would think up, but a look which embodies underlying symbolism relevant to the entity.

I'm not really a fan of an angelic paradigm, but the basic idea of seeking aid through a benevolent but powerful being, sounds like a good idea to me. Personally, myself, I'd try to communicate with the "demon", and if that went badly I'd try to fight with it myself. or maybe invoke Brimo as a way to channel a big can of whup***. But that is probably reckless of me. For advice I'd definitely go with seeking assistance/protection from a friendlier being. I'd recommend a deity though, rather than an angel. the thing with protection & beings though, is that it tends to work based on having an *actual relationship* with the protective being, not just because you phone them and want something from them. So do bear in mind that you'd basically be asking a big favor of a relative stranger, and make your approach fit that. unless you already *are* on good terms with a deity or powerful protective being... but if that were the case I'm guessing you'd have already taken care of the problem.

This post has been edited by Kath: Nov 3 2009, 10:09 AM

I don't know if you've taken care of this situation yet. But this caught my attention, as I've dealt with darker forces on several occasions, and I wanted to see what you were talking about.

The moment you described it, every entity around me was screaming demon. When I looked at the pictures, I was certain. It gave me the same queasy, dark feeling that most deeply evil demons do.

However, I am not confident that the method I use to banish demons will work for you. Generally my group and I (humans, not entities/angels/ghosts w/e) gather a lot of pure, concentrated energy, (usually into a purified stone, sometimes in one of us) and then...well, I realize this sounds lame, but we blow it up. Very rarely, the strong ones come back. This requires some more extreme measures, (which I would gladly post, if it comes to that) but as of now, we've had no ongoing problems. I doubt this will be of any help to you, because I have never tested this outside my group, but if you've resorted to any recourse, I would encourage this plan of action, as it requires no more than a stone, some intensely serene, pure, faithful thoughts, and belief in something, anything, higher than yourself.