Chinese Wushu And Djinn Possession, A solid correlation, or an isolated incident... Options

*I decided to post this topic in the Psychic Attacks & Self Defense section because it directly relates to one individual's struggle with Djinn/demonic oppression/possession. If this topic would be more accurately represented in the Eastern Studies section, inform me and I will take the necessary actions.

The Eastern practice of Chi Kung (Qigong) involves the cultivation of energies intrinsic to the human body. Said energy is used in the maintenance of one’s mental, physical, and emotional health; physical stamina; and power necessary for the internal, Chinese martial arts (Tajiquan, Baguazhang, and Xingyiquan). Miraculous feats of the human potential—inclusive of being repeatedly struck with potentially lethal objects and sustaining no damage(Iron Shirt), transmitting incredible payloads of power through simple physical blows, upsetting an opponent without touching them—are often attributed to this mysterious energy that seems to baffle Western sciences.

In all of my personal studies of the phenomena associated with this power, I’ve never once encountered a scenario in which the cultivation of Qi led to invasion by external, hostile entities. Sure enough, however, such a situation has come to pass; and the victim of mentioned circumstance reached out to the internet community to try to warn other aspiring martial artists of the danger that he himself faced and eventually overcame with the help of a Sheikh.

This is his story: http://www.dangerofchi.org/mystory.htm

I’ve developed a few theories as to why these sequences of events befell this former practitioner of the Five Animal system of Wushu, but I want to hear your voices as well.

This post has been edited by Edunpanna: Jun 16 2007, 11:38 AM

That is a very interesting article. Thank you very much for posting it; I do not believe that I would have ever found it otherwise. His vomitting/ejection of ectoplasm is very interesting. I do not know of any other cases such as this. Although he seems to believe (now) that the internal martial arts are evil (and that Buddhism is an idolatrist religion), I do not think they are. To me, it seems that he was brought up in the Islamic tradition and, because of it, had the basic belief ingrained into his psyche. This may have caused the energies he was summoning (b/c of his subconscious) to take the form of malevolent Djinns. This seems to be the case for many people; if they have been brought up thinking that something is "evil," then they continue to believe it later in life whether they know it or not.

Well, that is my interpretation of it, what is yours Naberius?

This post has been edited by Kranos: Jun 21 2007, 10:31 PM

It was my pleasure to post the article, Kranos, and know that—should I find something equally as fascinating as this Chi-Kung malady—I will gladly share said findings with this community.

As to my theory for this man’s uncommon condition:

The various martial art systems that fall beneath the umbrella term of Chinese martial arts (WuShu) are not altogether unfamiliar to me. In fact, I’ve practiced—though, admittedly, mostly external styles—a small number of the Northern fist styles for three years intermittently (breaks in my routine were necessitated by stifled funds). My exposure to the internal styles, however, is mostly academic; I have very little hands on training, but, in absorbing the lore associated with Bagua, Taji, and XingYi as well as less popular internal systems, I’ve never come across any case of energy cultivation leading to demonic/Djinn possession.

To explain that, to my knowledge, unheard of phenomena in those ranks, I attempted to isolate the variable in this man’s story that distinguished it from any other Chi-Kung training that I’m intellectually comfortable with. I believe that I’ve found that variable in the form of the sifu, specifically: his practice of imbuing a statue with the energies that he previously summoned.

"The significance of the Buddha was to become further exemplified following a visit by the Abbot Shi Yon Xian into our temple, where upon he performed a ceremony which involved the statue of Buddha, he channeled an enormous amount of Chi into the Buddha (at which point many Sifu that were present in the audience reported feeling the powerful energy of the Abbot pass into the Buddha, some even reported seeing bright lights, and indeed this energy was to remain in the despicable idol.”

The goal of Chi-Kung is to manipulate one’s own naturally occurring energies to bring about both storage of personal power and a conscious ability to will it through the proper vessels found throughout the body’s chi networks. It is an arduous process, yes, because most people are not use to handling those energies; but the effects are often beneficial and immediately apparent. In this man’s case, the effects were indeed immediately noticeable but not quite positive. Why? I believe it is because of an improperly trained sifu that passed on his broken system of Chi-Kung to his own pupils. Never is a student of Chi-Kung instructed to pull in energies foreign to his or her body. Chi is intrinsic; our natural supply is enough to work with. Whatever energies that one absorbs into oneself is, by definition, not Chi.

The sifu didn’t seem to grasp that concept though. He even went as far as imbuing an inanimate object with energies that—by logical leap—were probably gained from “summoning” rather than generating. If the summoned energy is not Chi, however, then what is it? Perhaps the sifu had been, for years, inviting intelligent agents into his body and ignorantly passing on the habit of doing so to those receiving his instruction. The “power” that the sifu felt coursing through his veins was probably composed of only a small percentage of his personal power. The entities were responsible for the rest.
In adhering to this Abbot’s practices and techniques, the poor, possessed soul of this man probably unwittingly (like his master before him) brought hostile agents into his own body which led to the events described in his story.

That’s my theory, anyway. I like what you said about the student subconsciously transforming the energies into something rather than what they should be…you’ve made me consider another theory, Kranos.

It was my pleasure to post the article, Kranos, and know that—should I find something equally as fascinating as this Chi-Kung malady—I will gladly share said findings with this community.

As to my theory for this man’s uncommon condition:

The various martial art systems that fall beneath the umbrella term of Chinese martial arts (WuShu) are not altogether unfamiliar to me. In fact, I’ve practiced—though, admittedly, mostly external styles—a small number of the Northern fist styles for three years intermittently (breaks in my routine were necessitated by stifled funds). My exposure to the internal styles, however, is mostly academic; I have very little hands on training, but, in absorbing the lore associated with Bagua, Taji, and XingYi as well as less popular internal systems, I’ve never come across any case of energy cultivation leading to demonic/Djinn possession.

To explain that, to my knowledge, unheard of phenomena in those ranks, I attempted to isolate the variable in this man’s story that distinguished it from any other Chi-Kung training that I’m intellectually comfortable with. I believe that I’ve found that variable in the form of the sifu, specifically: his practice of imbuing a statue with the energies that he previously summoned.



The goal of Chi-Kung is to manipulate one’s own naturally occurring energies to bring about both storage of personal power and a conscious ability to will it through the proper vessels found throughout the body’s chi networks. It is an arduous process, yes, because most people are not use to handling those energies; but the effects are often beneficial and immediately apparent. In this man’s case, the effects were indeed immediately noticeable but not quite positive. Why? I believe it is because of an improperly trained sifu that passed on his broken system of Chi-Kung to his own pupils. Never is a student of Chi-Kung instructed to pull in energies foreign to his or her body. Chi is intrinsic; our natural supply is enough to work with. Whatever energies that one absorbs into oneself is, by definition, not Chi.

The sifu didn’t seem to grasp that concept though. He even went as far as imbuing an inanimate object with energies that—by logical leap—were probably gained from “summoning” rather than generating. If the summoned energy is not Chi, however, then what is it? Perhaps the sifu had been, for years, inviting intelligent agents into his body and ignorantly passing on the habit of doing so to those receiving his instruction. The “power” that the sifu felt coursing through his veins was probably composed of only a small percentage of his personal power. The entities were responsible for the rest.
In adhering to this Abbot’s practices and techniques, the poor, possessed soul of this man probably unwittingly (like his master before him) brought hostile agents into his own body which led to the events described in his story.

That’s my theory, anyway. I like what you said about the student subconsciously transforming the energies into something rather than what they should be…you’ve made me consider another theory, Kranos.

A very interesting theory, if I may say so myself. It seems to make sense; are there any other instuctors that you have heard of that do something similar to that system? If not then, yes, we have an isolated case. Interesting... Also, thank you for the compliment. I am glad my thoughts could be of service. *lol* (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)

...are there any other instructors that you have heard of that do something similar to that system?

The only practice—involving the introduction of foreign energy into one’s body—that leaps to mind within internal Wushu systems is a form of metaphysical treatment performed by those who have mastered the manipulation of their own personal energies. I forget the specific terminology, but I’ve read about instances in which a chi “specialist” would use his own reserves to stimulate the inactive or stagnant chi of a patient. Said specialist would essentially force his energies through the chi networks of the patient’s body which would quite vigorously destroy any blockages that may be preventing the patient’s own power from flowing effectively as well as lending impetus to that same chi that may have atrophied from lack of use. In that situation, though, the chi isn’t retained by the patient. It accomplishes the intent of the specialist and then, with his command, either returns to his own supply or is dissipated in the environment.