Large Shadowy Insect Entity, What is it!? Options

Hi. first post. Hoping someone can help me Something odd happened last night. I started dosing off and was shortly awakened by pressure on my face. I opened my eyes and a shadowy THING lifted from my face and fluttered like a giant moth (the size of my fist or so) to the wall. Once on the wall it started crawling around like a giant spider or insect. Once on the wall it melted into it and dissapeared. I was thinking that maybe this was just a dream or something and I was just dreaming while awake. But i have a gut feeling its not. Plus i've experienced something similar to this in my house before. WHAT IS IT?!

I'm dying to find out what this is. I have a gut feeling that this isn't soem kidn of inbetween dream at all!

-Mat

Greetings Mat! Welcome to the Forum!
May I suggest that it was an astral parasite of some sort?...or a watcher but they don't usually make contact...
Not many people experience seeing these sort of phenomena without some training. When, where and how? Try leaving a couple of sliced onions out in your room...the chemical gas released tends to drive away unwanted astral parasites (as does blessed water w/salt, garlic, vinegar, etc. The worse the onions or vinegar could do will be making your room smell like a deli! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Thanks so much for your reply. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I'm actually not trained in anything. I actually have barely any occult knowledge. But I've always been able to see "spirits" to some extent and definitely feel energy. The people at my yoga center have told me I was an indigo child though. But haven't gone into much depth about it. So maybe thats why? By watcher are you referring to those shadowy figures that stand in my room and watch me sometimes at night or something else? I'm very ignorant when it comes to actual knowledge. I hope you can forgive me. Most people mock me when I talk about these things but I had to know what that insect like thing was. I've never experienced anything like this. This forum is pretty neat by the way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

-M

...so it WASN'T just me with those shadows...I was wondering if maybe I just imagine them. Watchers are spiritual entities that do just that...watch. The supposedly observe everything that goes on without ever interferering save the occasional nudge here and there.

As to your visitor....was it the only time it's ever happened? Ever see the shape, or feel that presense, around you before or afterwards? It could be an astral parasite...or it could've just been going about it's buisness and landed on your face =/ Those shadows, from what I've seen of them, just tend to run around doing their own thing and tend to ignore the rest of us.....but that could just be me since even humans don't really mess with me. I'd go with the other poster's suggestion with the repelants if it gets to the point where they're bothering you. The shadowy figures watching you though....ever feel ill intent towards yourself? Or...some negative energy? If not...nothing to worry about then I'm sure, though that's not to say you can't keep your guard up of course (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Insects usually represent qliphothic spirits.Usually not always.Scarab beetle is an exception.

This post has been edited by Ra Hoor Khuit: Jan 30 2007, 05:30 AM

Insects usually represent qliphothic spirits.Usually not always.Scarab beetle is an exception.

I agree with that. Also BYM gives good advice on how to get rid of parasites. I do think however that this was a dream. Its very rare to actually see a spirit. Most people after years of working with spirits only get an occasional fleeting glimpse of a spirit. Seeing a spirit fully manifested I would think extremely rare.

Now enter the dream world. It really parallels the astral in many ways. It is possible for a true astral leech to appear in your dream. So was this a dream?

I think I would take a sea salt bath and say a few exorcisms. Making deli sandwiches does not sound bad either. BYM is making me hungry. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

once i was driving and through my peripheral vision i could see a black spider on the side window... it surprised me.. At that time i did not know much of the occult and the only thing that came to my mind at those times in case of danger was the name of the supreme Hindu God in a very popular mantra:

OM NAMAH SHIVAYA



This helped me often and after the mantra, i aint saw anything.. This is about how much i remember..

So i guess even astral junks do have some conciousness as to run away from God's energy vibes...

I would not be so quick to presume that the entity is just an 'astral parasite' or 'Qlippoth' as that is just a w.a.g. (wild assed guess). You may be jumping to the wrong conclusion and trying to do away with a Spirit that could be very beneificial.

There ARE Spirits out there who assume the forms of insects I'm surprised you guys don't know anything about this. Have you forgotten the "Lord of the Flies, Beelzebub"? If not then you may want to talk with Him about this and see if He or one of his subordinates are responsible.

Further, there is a Vodou LWA by the name of Baron Zaraguin who is the ruler of the Were-Spider LWA Family and some about him can be found in Michael Bertiaux's Voudoun Gnostic Workbook and in Tarantula's The Dark Arts of Tarantula. There is a lot one can learn from insects as Asian Martial Artists discovered hundreds of years ago. Occultists can do the same. It's sad to think you couldn't learn anything from the insect world especially since they're among the oldest surviving organisms in the history of our planet.

All the Best

once i was driving and through my peripheral vision i could see a black spider on the side window... it surprised me.. At that time i did not know much of the occult and the only thing that came to my mind at those times in case of danger was the name of the supreme Hindu God in a very popular mantra:

OM NAMAH SHIVAYA

Even if that didn't get rid of the spider, mystick, I can see it being comforting, definitely. I've got a rendition of that sung by Krishna Dass and a fairly large group of people...it's beautiful, and I don't think I'll ever forget the sense of familiarity I got from it the first time I heard it, either. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)

Ah, Moloch beat me to it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I was going to suggest since Beelzebuth classically takes a form of a large insect. A lot of people complain that they have a "goetia demon bothering" them, but I think that's really silly. Not that they don't come to us, but that people think they're being attacked! That's a very newb attitude if you ask me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/baby.gif)

If you suspect that you have a demon/daemon around you, say hi! Don't ignore it, don't banish it, because if no one has sent it to harm you, then it wants to help you out somehow, so embrace that you have a kickass daemon wanting to talk to you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

After all, daemons are our friends (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Well, this is from a LHP point of view, so I'm sure that a lot of people would disagree with me. But just look at the greek definition of daemon and see for yourself. A daemon is an entity above a human in power and intellect, but below a god.

I agree with that. Also BYM gives good advice on how to get rid of parasites. I do think however that this was a dream. Its very rare to actually see a spirit. Most people after years of working with spirits only get an occasional fleeting glimpse of a spirit. Seeing a spirit fully manifested I would think extremely rare.

Now enter the dream world. It really parallels the astral in many ways. It is possible for a true astral leech to appear in your dream. So was this a dream?

I think I would take a sea salt bath and say a few exorcisms. Making deli sandwiches does not sound bad either. BYM is making me hungry. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I have to disagree ;
Some people including myself have a inate in-born ability to see spirits. When I was younger I had these shadow figures standing in the corners mostly at night w/accompaning nightmares. My old pit bull could also see them too and even used to jump high in the air trying to attack them.!
The" twilight time" as I call it; right before you fall into sleep seems to be a very easy time time to see "things' and is when the veils open up to some. For many years at this "twilight time" I use to have shadow spirits(like serpents) wrap around me and paralyze my body. I would try to scream or move and nothing! only after I managed to pull the name of Jesus from my center to where it finally broke out of my mouth would they release me. Me thinks in Ancient times these were called "Night Hags".
This went on for years, even after I learned spirtual warfare.
I had no formal training besides my Christian training, and even with this it still wasn't untill years later that I did learn to finally banish them.
Other people spend their whole life trying, but NEVER see a spirit. For others like myself seeing them is as natural as breathing.
In fact I use to NOT want to see them as these were a bit frightening at least back then.
I now practise these below rituals if only at least in the astral every night and have never been attacked since!
I would sugest learning the lesser banishing ritual of the pentantagram, Rose cross ritual, and Banishing ritual of the hexagram.
These are easy and seem to work amazingly! well at least for me and many others I suspect.
You can find these on the forums library I do believe.
Ps My vote is with 'Ancient One" that the bug is Qliphothic in nature,.
This is just my 6 scense peace Love & Light (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sport_boxing.gif)

This post has been edited by Lightning777: Apr 22 2008, 10:52 PM

I would say that the Rose Cross ritual is probably what has helped you most, lightning777. Simply because it's really effective for making you invisible, and frankly if I was a spirit wanting to make contact with a human (being dead, or just wanting to mess with one too), I would look for somebody like you. So by performing that ritual you basically make it so that they can't see you. Useful. I don't care much for the LBRP, or BRH, but the rose cross is very good.

Greetings!
Unless you are a practicing magician/mystic or have the gift of astral sight (or are working towards it) you will be unaware of most astral and spiritual entities. The first kind of entity that one becomes aware of when wakening the sight will be the astral denizens within their immediate sphere of influence. Demons rarely present themselves to people unless the persom has something very important to the demon. I know many people in the 'occult' field(s) of study/enlightenment that have never encountered a demon or an angel!

btw, what I advised with the onion (or with a dish of any acidic fluid) will work to deaden physical manifestations within an enclosed space for roughly 12-24 hrs before replenishment. IMHO, if you experience shadowy creatures for the first time and you haven't been exposed to magic (directly or indirectly) then you should do a number of things. 1. ground yourself, 2. stabilize and strengthen your aura and 3. become informed (fear of the unknown will always cost you) by study or by talking to those in the know. You may disagree with this. How would you respond? As we all belong to at least one occult forum we have had much more experience than those who are brand new to this stuff. Everybody reacts differently because we are all different. Let me reiterate though on one thing...demon(ic) encounters are RARE, even to those of us who meditate or read Tarot cards. Thank goodness for that! I just assume to leave them to those who know what they are doing. Keep a happy thought! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Greetings!
Unless you are a practicing magician/mystic or have the gift of astral sight (or are working towards it) you will be unaware of most astral and spiritual entities. The first kind of entity that one becomes aware of when wakening the sight will be the astral denizens within their immediate sphere of influence. Demons rarely present themselves to people unless the persom has something very important to the demon. I know many people in the 'occult' field(s) of study/enlightenment that have never encountered a demon or an angel!

btw, what I advised with the onion (or with a dish of any acidic fluid) will work to deaden physical manifestations within an enclosed space for roughly 12-24 hrs before replenishment. IMHO, if you experience shadowy creatures for the first time and you haven't been exposed to magic (directly or indirectly) then you should do a number of things. 1. ground yourself, 2. stabilize and strengthen your aura and 3. become informed (fear of the unknown will always cost you) by study or by talking to those in the know. You may disagree with this. How would you respond? As we all belong to at least one occult forum we have had much more experience than those who are brand new to this stuff. Everybody reacts differently because we are all different. Let me reiterate though on one thing...demon(ic) encounters are RARE, even to those of us who meditate or read Tarot cards. Thank goodness for that! I just assume to leave them to those who know what they are doing. Keep a happy thought! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Hi Bym,
I wasn't implying these were demons, Not even the shadow serpents, I was just saying those guys sure weren't usefull to me
ha ha!
I personally don't fool with goetics, or other fallen spirits so I wouldn't dare say what right for me is for everyone.. I was just responding to the tagline people very rarely actually see spirits.Since "mine" where trying to literally kill me through various devices, They were foe not friend to me.
I'm not saying everyone sees them, just that many with little formal training I just never actually began to practice this knowledge untill my latter years. A christain background doesn't mean no experience with Magick, just a different type of ritual form. these formulae still work in my practice I've just added to the arsenal.
No offences intended here, I like to stir the pot occasionaly to engage every one, so we can better learn from each other.

I guess I get surprissed that so many people with massive amounts of occult practice seem to not get the results they're after. I have met Demons face to face and in my debauchurous years even had a few over for tea so to speak. But boy when I turned from that path all hell broke loose literally ha ha!
but a final note on that, The demons I dealt with didn't really have to actually Do ANYTHING to me, They got me to do it to myself as that's all they were allowed to do to me. They could'nt take my life, but could get others to try and kill me(which happened more than twice) But believe me it came real close many times during my 10 years in & on the streets of Los ANgeles.
ok I'll stop for now, I just like the good engaging discourse that occurs on this forum. And the massive amount of "cumelative experience" available to all here Thanks
Ps Bym I guess that would be more accurate; " Born with Astral sight"?
Peace Love & light to you all Very Sincerely L
I should have mentioned Tai Chi and other internal arts training which is very similar to known systems of magick in its functioning; "Body of Light" . In fact the advanced middle pillar is almost identiclal to a stationary Tai Chi "working"?

Ok I'm starting to Ramble Ciao

This post has been edited by Lightning777: Apr 23 2008, 11:22 PM

I would say that the Rose Cross ritual is probably what has helped you most, lightning777. Simply because it's really effective for making you invisible, and frankly if I was a spirit wanting to make contact with a human (being dead, or just wanting to mess with one too), I would look for somebody like you. So by performing that ritual you basically make it so that they can't see you. Useful. I don't care much for the LBRP, or BRH, but the rose cross is very good.

As always altpath thanks for your insight. I will NEVER judge anyone elses spiritual path. I now know that there must be balance the dark is equally as necessary as the light for what one e be without the other. ANd people need another choice.

"yes there are two paths you can go by but in the long run, There's still time to change the road your on" -I'm a Zepfreak

I'm not a GD fanatic it's just the magickal path I was drawn too very young but didn't come into fruition untill the past 6yrs, and I've had grate success with it, albiet it's still in it's infancy.
Oh and about The Demons helping, they sure did help me back then.! I could will something like a massive coke orgy to happen and Viola! didn't even have to pay for it meself! .... well i sure did in the end though...I lost it all ha ha!
It was only after I "switched" my path when some of them became my mortal enemy.
As Bym was saying I think I have something they really wanted: My music. It's ironic how someone as skilled as myself always seemed to have the doors all close to me at the critical times after that. I did get on the Radio finally but that took 30yrs!.. When I swore allegiance to the service of the light, thats when my life really got turned upside down.
Ps I want to state this to any of you that may be put off by the phrase "christian" I want to say I am not like any "normal" christian you would ever meet. I don't follow a religion, just the actual teachings of the man(Yeshua) himself. I hate the term religion, and the way they(the church) stunt peoples true spiritual potential in the churches these days. Thats why I bailed..Ok sorry about the "disclaimer ha ha!
Ok I'm swerving way off topic and am about to hit the guard-rail.. I better turn in for the evening Thanks Altpath.
Believe me I get tempted hard to drink of the Goetia, but Yeshua has done way too much for me to go back to tha path again.
Thats one of the things about the right hand path...You can't use a lot of it for self gain(like winning the lotto) .
But I do get all I NEED and most of what I want thats good for me...I'm only now becomming successful with grey workings.
Ok this should've been a personal message to you. Blessings Be