Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
 Sex Servitor
Aphrodite
post Oct 4 2007, 10:02 PM
Post #1


Zelator
Group Icon
Posts: 128
Age: N/A
Gender: Female
Reputation: 4 pts




Is it possible to create a physical materialization of a sex servitor? I was wodering if someone has done it, and what was there experience? Also is that better than summoning an incubus? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post


Slayden
post Oct 4 2007, 11:50 PM
Post #2


Zelator
Group Icon
Posts: 132
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: Locating............
Reputation: 3 pts




I could be your servitor. Just name a time and place. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hands.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol_2.gif)

And ModSquad, I'm a flirt. It's what I do. Stop badgering me with (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sculacciata.gif) PM's.


Back on topic, I've never heard of servitor manifesting so completely in the physical realm that you could touch it. However, I've heard of physical egregores but I have no idea what they look like or if they can have human bodies. If you are into Ceremonial Magick, you can work with a spirit named Frucisierre who can teach you how to create physical egregores, but he will require that you never teach it to anyone nor write it down. I'm still learning about magickal evocation so I have never worked with this spirit, so again, I have no idea what physical egregores look like, and if they are anything like the golem legends, they are little more than animated statues, not flesh and blood.

I don't know much about incubi or succubi so I can't really comment on that.

Instead, why don't you get a boyfriend or something? It's a lot easier than trying to do any of what I mentioned. And if you don't want a relationship right now, try getting a sex friend (a flimsy affair between two friends but they don't let it affect the nature of their friendship).


--------------------
IPB Image

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

4symbols
post Oct 5 2007, 02:44 AM
Post #3


Neophyte
Group Icon
Posts: 11
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: Russia. Saint-Peterburg
Reputation: none




Its possible only one way - serious destruction on you own mind. Combine hallucinatory delusion and sexual arousal and you consciousness will materialize sexual form or will "lure" sexual astral spirit. I think find real man (women) for sex very easily than make "sexual servitor" this way

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Fio Praeter Humanus
post Oct 5 2007, 06:30 AM
Post #4


Theurgist
Group Icon
Posts: 511
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: South, GA
Reputation: 6 pts




Since this thread deals with servitors, it is probably better suited for the chaos magick forum. Moving the thread. You should get a better response there.


--------------------

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Aphrodite
post Oct 5 2007, 03:34 PM
Post #5


Zelator
Group Icon
Posts: 128
Age: N/A
Gender: Female
Reputation: 4 pts




QUOTE(Slayden @ Oct 5 2007, 01:50 AM) *
I could be your servitor. Just name a time and place. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hands.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol_2.gif)


OK!
lol I'm pretty shy and I dont know how to "get a boyfriend" I guess I could make a servitor to find me one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fool.gif)

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Slayden
post Oct 6 2007, 06:39 PM
Post #6


Zelator
Group Icon
Posts: 132
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: Locating............
Reputation: 3 pts




QUOTE(Aphrodite @ Oct 5 2007, 02:34 PM) *
lol I'm pretty shy and I dont know how to "get a boyfriend" I guess I could make a servitor to find me one. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fool.gif)


Or you can wink and smile at a guy. He'll get the hint and come talk. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif)

I dunno that kind of sounds like overly simplistic advice. I'm a water element so relationships are easy to navigate for me, however September 27 makes you a Libra and thus and earth element, which prefers stability, meaning slow to enter a relationship and slow to end one.

I'm not used to giving out dating advice, but you might keep in mind that a lot of guys (too many in my opinion) think with two heads, the other of which has a one-track mind. Nevertheless, some guys often give in to it, and most women know how to get a guy because of this knowledge.I guess it depends on what you're looking for. Are you ready to settle down and have a lifetime-lasting relationship or do you want to play around a little first?

Magickly speaking, you have a number of options other than just servitors. You have scrying, contacting the Venus plantetary intelligence, love spells, sigilization, etc., etc., etc., etc. Love and war are the human animal's favorite pastimes. There is more kinds of love magick than any other type, and hexes and curses come in for a close second.

http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/penissong.html


--------------------
IPB Image

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

F.R.E.E. 93
post Oct 6 2007, 08:17 PM
Post #7


Neophyte
Group Icon
Posts: 27
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: none




Slayden how do you come by the information that Libra is connected with the element earth? It is an air sign, the Cardinal of air to be exact so symbolically the most active of air elements, as the King of Swords is the Fire of Air. And this is an honest question is there some not commonly known information that I am unaware of? Oh and though my birthday shows different on here, don't like to give out my real birthday, I am a Libra born on Friday the 13th of October. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evil2.gif)

This post has been edited by F.R.E.E. 93: Oct 6 2007, 08:27 PM


--------------------
Create freely; absorb jouyously; divide intently; consolidate compleately.

F.R.E.E. 93

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Aphrodite
post Oct 6 2007, 09:29 PM
Post #8


Zelator
Group Icon
Posts: 128
Age: N/A
Gender: Female
Reputation: 4 pts




(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
QUOTE(Slayden @ Oct 6 2007, 08:39 PM) *
Or you can wink and smile at a guy. He'll get the hint and come talk. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif)

I dunno that kind of sounds like overly simplistic advice. I'm a water element so relationships are easy to navigate for me, however September 27 makes you a Libra and thus and earth element, which prefers stability, meaning slow to enter a relationship and slow to end one.

I'm not used to giving out dating advice, but you might keep in mind that a lot of guys (too many in my opinion) think with two heads, the other of which has a one-track mind. Nevertheless, some guys often give in to it, and most women know how to get a guy because of this knowledge.I guess it depends on what you're looking for. Are you ready to settle down and have a lifetime-lasting relationship or do you want to play around a little first?

Magickly speaking, you have a number of options other than just servitors. You have scrying, contacting the Venus plantetary intelligence, love spells, sigilization, etc., etc., etc., etc. Love and war are the human animal's favorite pastimes. There is more kinds of love magick than any other type, and hexes and curses come in for a close second.

http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/penissong.html


Easier said than done. I don’t really live in an “accepting” of different minority groups area. So winking at a guy in my area could lead to uhhhh I dunno. . . Thus leads to problem of a guy comfortably walking up and chatting with me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hmm.gif)

I want to play around first. I’m so horny. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)

LOL the penis thing was funny and disturbing.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Slayden
post Oct 8 2007, 02:47 AM
Post #9


Zelator
Group Icon
Posts: 132
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: Locating............
Reputation: 3 pts




QUOTE(F.R.E.E. 93 @ Oct 6 2007, 07:17 PM) *
Slayden how do you come by the information that Libra is connected with the element earth? It is an air sign,


Oops. My bad. I confused Libra and Virgo. Yes Libra = Air element.

QUOTE(F.R.E.E. 93 @ Oct 6 2007, 07:17 PM) *
Oh and though my birthday shows different on here, don't like to give out my real birthday, I am a Libra born on Friday the 13th of October. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evil2.gif)


Cool birthday. There's only two or three Friday the 13th days in any given year.

QUOTE(Aphrodite @ Oct 6 2007, 08:29 PM) *
I'm so horny. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)


There's your pickup line right there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)

This post has been edited by Slayden: Oct 8 2007, 02:48 AM


--------------------
IPB Image

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

altpath
post Oct 8 2007, 02:52 PM
Post #10


Zelator
Group Icon
Posts: 205
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: middle of nowhere (hint: somewhere in LA)
Reputation: 2 pts




Aphrodite,

I used to have a servitor (that I forgot about for a few months, but was still following me around although I didn't know it) that was specifically to be a spirit lover. You could create one to be your lover, or one to get you a lover, but to mix those two things can get them confused (I found that out after about a month that I couldn't ask her to get me physical lovers).

This is what I recommend: Get a book on servitor creation or read a lot about it online (it'll help you get into the right frame of mind). I've made a couple servitors successfully (things start to happen around your life, signs, that tell you things went well with the creation, etc.) but only one I made using a book method. I bought a book called "familiar spirits" by donald tyson. I used the method in that book to create this spirit, and it worked well.

The problem was that I didn't communicate with it daily like I should have. I didn't even put much effort into working with it regularly so over the next several months, I would infrequently have sexually oriented dreams. Girls I have had fantasies about over the years would pop into my dreams for a sexual visit, but they never acted like themselves. They were quiet never saying a word, just an object of desire for me in the dreams, and unlike an incubus/succubus, it never forced itself onto me. That's a very good thing, lol.

My point is, they work well, but if you don't put a LOT OF EFFORT into shaping them for several months at least, and if you don't communicate with them on a regular basis, you won't get much more than a shape-shifting puppet in your dreams. They can get really smart though, so treat it well or it might learn to outsmart you soon and give you some headaches.

The same writer of that book above I mention, wrote a book called "sexual alchemy" years ago. It's out of print, and it goes for about 60 dollars on ebay, but it's a very good book on making servitors for sex and for raising kundalini. I got it cheap but I recommend it if you can afford it. It's very detailed and although the author does not encourage it, I recommend you work with gods, not demons for this.

Good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


--------------------
www.occult-desires.com/english/
Lust/Love, Money, Healing, Divinations - SpellWork with Daemonic Aid

www.occult-desires.com/espanol/
Ahora disponible en Español, con servicios mas baratos para los Mexicanos.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Aphrodite
post Oct 8 2007, 04:27 PM
Post #11


Zelator
Group Icon
Posts: 128
Age: N/A
Gender: Female
Reputation: 4 pts




QUOTE(altpath @ Oct 8 2007, 04:52 PM) *
Aphrodite,

I used to have a servitor (that I forgot about for a few months, but was still following me around although I didn't know it) that was specifically to be a spirit lover. You could create one to be your lover, or one to get you a lover, but to mix those two things can get them confused (I found that out after about a month that I couldn't ask her to get me physical lovers).

This is what I recommend: Get a book on servitor creation or read a lot about it online (it'll help you get into the right frame of mind). I've made a couple servitors successfully (things start to happen around your life, signs, that tell you things went well with the creation, etc.) but only one I made using a book method. I bought a book called "familiar spirits" by donald tyson. I used the method in that book to create this spirit, and it worked well.

The problem was that I didn't communicate with it daily like I should have. I didn't even put much effort into working with it regularly so over the next several months, I would infrequently have sexually oriented dreams. Girls I have had fantasies about over the years would pop into my dreams for a sexual visit, but they never acted like themselves. They were quiet never saying a word, just an object of desire for me in the dreams, and unlike an incubus/succubus, it never forced itself onto me. That's a very good thing, lol.

My point is, they work well, but if you don't put a LOT OF EFFORT into shaping them for several months at least, and if you don't communicate with them on a regular basis, you won't get much more than a shape-shifting puppet in your dreams. They can get really smart though, so treat it well or it might learn to outsmart you soon and give you some headaches.

The same writer of that book above I mention, wrote a book called "sexual alchemy" years ago. It's out of print, and it goes for about 60 dollars on ebay, but it's a very good book on making servitors for sex and for raising kundalini. I got it cheap but I recommend it if you can afford it. It's very detailed and although the author does not encourage it, I recommend you work with gods, not demons for this.

Good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


Thanks. . . When I get the money I’m going to buy Tyson’s Familiar Spirits
e-book. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


I was looking into buying Sexual Alchemy but since its out of print (I wonder why) I’ve seen it’s prices ranging from 120 to 170. I did see one advertised for 19 bucks on some random website. . .

So why did you create a servitor to be your spirit lover (if you don’t mind me asking)?

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Acid09
post Oct 8 2007, 05:27 PM
Post #12


Health Hazzard
Group Icon
Posts: 894
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: Colorado, USA
Reputation: 16 pts




QUOTE
And ModSquad, I'm a flirt. It's what I do. Stop badgering me with

Its our job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evil2.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Christ man before anybody says anything more sexually oriented - the sex comments don't bother me, but they might somebody else and that hurts SMs image as a legit site and I'm sure that bothers the admin. When the admin gets upset either they bother modsquad or they ban people - that bothers me.

Slayden I know you're a guy and I can relate, believe me, but there's a time and a place - not here. However the rest of your posts that were not "flirts"; very good advice and please keep it up. Aphrodite, for being shy you certainly come off pretty strong with your intentions. Both of you keep the sexual innuendo to a minimum PLEASE. Warnings next time no kidding.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif)

On the topic - Aphrodite I would carefully consider exactly what you are looking for - love or lust - if lust is all you are looking for believe me a wink and smile is all it takes and in reality guys don't really care about racial boundries. The exception being if you're in some real back water area that is closely knit and has few ties to the real world or the projects. Ghettos of any race can be pretty riggid. That said I think you might have some luck with myspace or some other dating site. It'll broaden your horizons.

A servitor is basically a represention of an intention with intelligence. An avatar and a screen name can act as a servitor under your direct control. In addition if you can add a paragraph to go along with the picture you can create an image of yourself (hopefully an honest one) that others will see and you can see what they've set up too. The internet can allow you to get to know a person before you meet them and it gives you control over the amount of time you both take to meet. If you wish to find a guy I think the internet is a perfectly acceptable means to attaining your goals.

This post has been edited by Acid09: Oct 8 2007, 05:30 PM


--------------------
IPB Image

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Aphrodite
post Oct 8 2007, 08:03 PM
Post #13


Zelator
Group Icon
Posts: 128
Age: N/A
Gender: Female
Reputation: 4 pts




QUOTE(Acid09 @ Oct 8 2007, 07:27 PM) *
Its our job. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/evil2.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Christ man before anybody says anything more sexually oriented - the sex comments don't bother me, but they might somebody else and that hurts SMs image as a legit site and I'm sure that bothers the admin. When the admin gets upset either they bother modsquad or they ban people - that bothers me.

Slayden I know you're a guy and I can relate, believe me, but there's a time and a place - not here. However the rest of your posts that were not "flirts"; very good advice and please keep it up. Aphrodite, for being shy you certainly come off pretty strong with your intentions. Both of you keep the sexual innuendo to a minimum PLEASE. Warnings next time no kidding.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif)


Sorry (IMG:style_emoticons/default/oops.gif)

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Acid09
post Oct 9 2007, 03:53 PM
Post #14


Health Hazzard
Group Icon
Posts: 894
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: Colorado, USA
Reputation: 16 pts




Its not the topic the topic is perfectly fine and fits within the agenda of the site. Its the various comments that can upset other bystanders. Keep it cool keep it mature you can talk abouk anything occult related. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


--------------------
IPB Image

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

altpath
post Oct 10 2007, 11:24 AM
Post #15


Zelator
Group Icon
Posts: 205
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: middle of nowhere (hint: somewhere in LA)
Reputation: 2 pts




QUOTE(Aphrodite @ Oct 8 2007, 06:27 PM) *
Thanks. . . When I get the money I’m going to buy Tyson’s Familiar Spirits
e-book. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I was looking into buying Sexual Alchemy but since its out of print (I wonder why) I’ve seen it’s prices ranging from 120 to 170. I did see one advertised for 19 bucks on some random website. . .

So why did you create a servitor to be your spirit lover (if you don’t mind me asking)?


Tysons familiar spirits book is a watered down version of sexual alchemy, IMO. It's a good book for the beginner, but it doesn't work nearly as well as SA could for you. On the other hand, SA is exactly about alchemy. Maybe not traditional alchemy, but it's totally oriented around raising the kundalini and connecting with shakti. It's a very good method that I'll take up soon enough.

Well I created that servitor out of curiosity. I was curious to know what it would be like to be with a spirit, and to see if I could use it to get women. I got one thing working. I found that the spirit was jealous for the most part. I didn't make any advancements at all with real women, but after I destroyed her, I got a girlfriend right away. I'm not saying I got one because of the spirit, I'm saying that the spirit was probably keeping real women away. In the end, IMHO, if you don't program it carefully, it will ruin your chances of getting a human lover eventually. If your connection with the spirit is strong, then that may be a good thing. You might find you don't ever want to go back.

So, good luck with that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


--------------------
www.occult-desires.com/english/
Lust/Love, Money, Healing, Divinations - SpellWork with Daemonic Aid

www.occult-desires.com/espanol/
Ahora disponible en Español, con servicios mas baratos para los Mexicanos.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Slayden
post Oct 10 2007, 07:21 PM
Post #16


Zelator
Group Icon
Posts: 132
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: Locating............
Reputation: 3 pts




QUOTE(Acid09 @ Oct 8 2007, 04:27 PM) *
Slayden I know you're a guy and I can relate, believe me, but there's a time and a place - not here. However the rest of your posts that were not "flirts"; very good advice and please keep it up. Aphrodite, for being shy you certainly come off pretty strong with your intentions. Both of you keep the sexual innuendo to a minimum PLEASE. Warnings next time no kidding.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif)


Well you guys can be likened to the gods of this board so... in the words of Austin Osman Spare, "Demand of God equality – usurp!”

*unsheaths a flaming sword*

QUOTE(Acid09 @ Oct 8 2007, 04:27 PM) *
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Christ man before anybody says anything more sexually oriented - the sex comments don't bother me, but they might somebody else and that hurts SMs image as a legit site and I'm sure that bothers the admin. When the admin gets upset either they bother modsquad or they ban people - that bothers me.


*sheaths his flaming sword*

Yeah yeah I get it. SM has an image to maintain...


So Aphrodite here are some positions you might want to try... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/flame.gif)


--------------------
IPB Image

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Paradox
post Oct 10 2007, 10:08 PM
Post #17


The White Chaos ~Praecantrix~
Group Icon
Posts: 205
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: Maryland, USA
Reputation: 2 pts




Well I am curious how other people do it.... servitors not the sex.... OH I DON'T WANNA KNOW ABOUT THE sex! What type of construction methods do you use?


--------------------
~Paradox The White Chaos~
~Praecantrix~
IPB Image

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Acid09
post Oct 11 2007, 07:47 PM
Post #18


Health Hazzard
Group Icon
Posts: 894
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: Colorado, USA
Reputation: 16 pts




In terms of sex servitors I would just join an online dating site and use it as a platform to project an image to draw others in to fullfill my intentions.

The other way would be to construct a sort of monument emphisizing my desires. For sex I would use either bees max or clay and create either a well endowed male for lust or a well endowed female for love. The male would correlate to lust because well lets face it men are horn dogs. And women tend to be more emotional and want longer term relations. Either way they would need to be well endowed (if i were making it) because that symbolizes greatness in the qualities they represent. But the figure is just the body. Alone its just a hillarious figure piece. It needs life, intention, purpose and a direction. To give it intention I would create a sigil(s) and carve/burn it into the figure. That takes care of purpose too. For life I would probably either melt a white candle or use mayo to simulate semen and use it to concencrate the servitor. If I were a woman I'd use something to simulate vaginal fluids. Then again the real deal is far more potent. But if you don't want to ummm "excrete" the appropriate fluids you could always use alternatives for a similar affect. So at this point the only thing left would be to give it direction. In other words command it to do something.... Yeah if you're already "sexually active" you might not want to use the lust servitor on yourself. Unless you want to be so hot that females of other species turn you on or something.

The primary goal of the lust servitor would be to help me spot a potential fling. Where as a love servitor would help me find someone more like a soul mate. So in reallity one might actually be dating awhile before one met a special someone because the love servitor is helping you find someone you can commit to and be happy with.


--------------------
IPB Image

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

cryptokiller
post Oct 20 2007, 02:06 PM
Post #19


Initiate
Group Icon
Posts: 6
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: none




Now I have an odd opinion on this whole topic for a number of reasons.

But a little warning first.

If you are considering creating a Sex Servitor (I usually call them Constructs myself, though I never made one for sex), then be very sure that the lover that you end up with is actually a Servitor and not a random Lost Soul or Succubus who has latched onto you and is pretending to be a part of your own subconscious.

It does happen, so be careful.

And yes, as unrealistic as it sounds, I did say Succubus, and I have definite personal experience of having one in my life as well.

Her name was Katyana, and for a while she made me relatively famous for the pictures that I drew of her and posted over on DeviantArt.com, a hot Dark Elven maiden with very, very loose morals and a body to match.

Not particularly out of the ordinary on the face of it, but if you look at the back story to the whole thing it gets quite wierd.

She used to knock on the inside of my head when she had a new idea, and we used to have odd little ...well... 'not quite conversations' about them where she showed me the pictures and talked me through them, and wouldn't leave me alone until I drew them for her/me.

I was still a virgin at this point (as I was waiting for the right girl to come along), and quite repressed sexually, and the ideas that she brought with her opened my mind to the darker side of my sexuality, and while I won't go into details the artwork was quite disturbing at times, and some of them so twisted that I refused to post them online.

It got so bad that I thought that I had a split personality at one point, or that I had accidently created a Servitor (hence my posting a reply here) but it was the dreams that I had about her, and the nature of the artwork she was asking for, that made me realize what she really was.

If you get what I mean.

When I met my ex girlfriend Katyana was good enough to step aside and I guess flit back off into the void to find another lover to inspire, and I have never seen her again, even now that I am single again.

So there you go.

As I said, just be careful you know what you are dealing with and you should be OK.

And don't worry about the moral implications of making a Servitor for sex, as it's no ones business but yours how you use your gifts, as long as no one undeserving gets hurt.

cryptokiller
London
UK

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

greenmonkey
post Dec 4 2007, 02:14 AM
Post #20


Neophyte
Group Icon
Posts: 23
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: none




I'm not really sure what a servitor is exactly; but I use to have a physical being follow me and protect me in their spiritual form. She once attempted oral sex on me while in her spiritual state. I don't think that'd be a servitor but I'm pretty sure she wasn't a succubus either. I don't know if any of that is relevant to this topic but I just thought I'd share.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Petrus
post Dec 4 2007, 05:01 AM
Post #21


Zelator
Group Icon
Posts: 227
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: 6 pts




QUOTE(greenmonkey @ Dec 4 2007, 07:14 PM) *
She once attempted oral sex on me while in her spiritual state. I don't think that'd be a servitor but I'm pretty sure she wasn't a succubus either.


I'm sure she probably was...I thought that's why they were called a succubus. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/head_hurts_kr.gif)


--------------------
Magical Evocation. All the fun of train surfing, without having to leave the house.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

paxx
post Dec 16 2007, 08:29 PM
Post #22


Resident Fool
Group Icon
Posts: 154
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
From: Arizona, USA
Reputation: 4 pts




Not to get on a semantic high horse…or vocabulary or whatever. However in general succubus/incubus are entities or demons who influence men/women with sexual thoughts…sexual dreams.

Given their very broad definition, there is no reason why anything including muses or a Victoria Secrets model might not be considered a Succubus.

Where I think it might be unhealthy is in the obsession category (musses playground) where they are more interesting and fun then the real flesh and blood objects around you.

On the servitor aspect. Creating a servitor that would attract others to you might be where you want to explore.

My recommendation is cast a very narrow net, and the servitor should only be out when you want it out.

You should focus on the what the people you want to attract would notice and have the servitor focus those qualities.

I have to admit I do not see the purpose for this in today’s world unless you are looking for very specific qualities. As mentioned before there are dating sites and such, community colleges, and a great many other venues people can go to attract desirable mates. It is when you get more specific as far as qualities that you have more and more problems.

I personally think young females have it easiest…the only thing is they need to learn techniques for drawing in, in some odd ways females are as competitive as males are, if not more so. While not a turn off, remember the hunt is often the fun part for many.

However truth to tell, I totally see the attractiveness of a spiritual sex partner. Less drama, and less chance of STD. However especially in winter, I cannot even think of them as nearly as satisfying as the real thing.


--------------------
--Paxx

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

cassiopeia
post Jan 22 2008, 07:05 AM
Post #23


Neophyte
Group Icon
Posts: 20
Age: N/A
Gender: Female
From: London
Reputation: none




Not really what you had in mind maybe, but I when I became single for a short while I made a servitor to help me meet a variety of sexual partners. It has actually been my most successful servitor to date! Didn't always work out as I had expected though - since I was only interested in physical relationships and not emotional ones, one of the conditions was that there should be no emotional ties. And it happened more than once that I would meet a guy, he would start liking me and be very interested in seeing me again, and then for some strange reason we would just not be able to see each other again. The only guys I would see again were those that there was absolutely no emotion (and thus diminished passion) with. So I guess I should have thought that out a bit better beforehand...


--------------------
"Be always drunken! Nothing else matters: that is the only way. If you would not feel the horrible burden of Time weighing on your shoulders and crushing you to the earth, be drunken continually. Drunken with what? With wine, with poetry, or with virtue, as you will. But be drunken."
-Baudelaire

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Petrus
post Jan 22 2008, 09:06 AM
Post #24


Zelator
Group Icon
Posts: 227
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: 6 pts




QUOTE(paxx @ Dec 17 2007, 01:29 PM) *
However truth to tell, I totally see the attractiveness of a spiritual sex partner. Less drama, and less chance of STD.


Less drama, no STDs, they don't try and alienate your friends/family/parents if they don't like them, they don't try and restrict your ability to go outside or do other things in exchange for the sex, and you can also tell them to bugger off after you've finished to that you can go back to studying magic/playing WoW/whatever else it was that you were already doing.

Sleeping with my ex was great, at first...although not only did she take over my life, because she was nearly 20 years older than me the sex gradually deteriorated as well. Relationships are a pain.


--------------------
Magical Evocation. All the fun of train surfing, without having to leave the house.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

fatherjhon
post Jan 26 2008, 03:36 AM
Post #25


Taoist Mystic
Group Icon
Posts: 384
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: 11 pts




Sex with constructs aside, a few interesting points were made.

“Since I was only interested in physical relationships and not emotional ones… The only guys I would see again were those that there was absolutely no emotion (and thus diminished passion) with.” And “However especially in winter, I cannot even think of them as nearly as satisfying as the real thing.”

I do tend to dance between Water and Earth so this may just be me, but I see a far more interesting prospect for a servitor than a Succubae. Succubae are emotional void, lust and little more; while a servitor being for most purposes alive and with a personality all its own, it can reciprocate affection. Given that the general consensus that sex servitors- and other things- are unsatisfying due in part to the lack of emotional ties. Disregarding the unhealthy aspect of forming a emotional tie with a mental construct, programming a servitor to entwine itself with you emotionally, would be far more satisfying than wet dreams, and emotionless sex. Although at that point it would be less a “sex servitor” and more a “warm, fuzzy feeling servitor.” There is also the amusing possibility of falling in love with ones own mind.

“You could create one to be your lover, or one to get you a lover, but to mix those two things can get them confused…” The “warm, fuzzy feeling servitor” might be an end run around this keen observation. It is neither a lover nor working against finding one.


--------------------
Cosmic consciousness is devoid of diversity; yet the universe of diversity exists in notion....
We contemplate that reality in which everything exists, to which everything belongs,
from which everything has emerged, which is the cause of everything and which is everything....
The light of [this] self-knowledge alone illumines all experiences. It shines by its own light.
This inner light appears to be outside and to illumine external objects.

-Sage Vasishtha

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

MrJohm
post Mar 27 2011, 12:50 PM
Post #26


3 Posts Probation
Group Icon
Posts: 2
Age: N/A
Gender: Male
Reputation: none




Cacodemonic Copulations
by Phil Hine

The subject of Incubi and Succubi and their visitations is rarely dealt with by modern magical writers, although they have been used time and time again by various hacks of the horror genre. Sex-Demons have been banished - either explained away as hallucination or junked as a product of Christian mastubatory mythos. Any occultists this side of the twentieth-century that do mention them, usually do so in the context of warning against traffick with such entities, believing that the dangers of loss of vitality or obsession is the inevitable result.

One of the few modern magical writers who does look at incubi and succubi (or, succubi and succuboys), is William Burroughs:

...an incubus or succubus can be harmless, or it can be destructive. Like any sexual situation, the danger depends on how you handle it. All sex is potentially dangerous .... Our sexual feelings make us vunerable. How many people have been ruined by a sexual partner? Sex does provide a point of invasion and the succubi and incubi simply makes us intensely aware of this.- from, A Report from the Bunker (V. Bockris.)

In the novel, The Place of Dead Roads, protagonist Kim Carsons enjoys several encounters with sex-demons:

He knew that the horror of these Demon Lovers was a gloomy Christian thing. In Japan there are phantom lovers known as fox maidens, and the man who can get his hands on a fox maiden is considered lucky. He felt sure that there were fox boys as well. Such creatures could assume the form of either sex.

According to Burroughs, peoples attitudes towards these beings may change, but such visitations are probably more frequent than most people suppose. He classes them as a type of familiar (they certainly are!) and notes that, like animal or elemental familiars, they are dependent on a relationship with a human host for their own development. Similar ideas can be found in the Kaula school of Tantrika, where there are rites for contacting such beings. The general approach is that you f%*! them and they do you a favour in return. Burroughs speculates on the possibilities of increased frequency of contact between humans and sex-demons:

Sex is physics. If anyone could push a button an receive an incubus or succubus, I believe that most people would prefer a phantom partner than the all-too dreary real thing.- From The Report from the Bunker.

So How do you Go About Aquiring a Demon Lover?

The Liminal Gnosis

Playing with such entities generally falls into the class of magical technique known as Evocation, and a form of Gnosis which is often the most effective is the so-called Liminal state, when one is half-asleep, half-awake. The body is completely relaxed, either from a relaxation exercise, or physical exhaustion; yet the mind is clear, and you simply allow images and sounds to arise before you. If you can learn to enter and prolong this state, then it is very useful for scrying, dream control or virtual (astral) explorations.

Erotic Evocation

To prepare for the Evocation of a Demon Lover, seek to inflame yourself through all possible modes of sensory stimulation - books, films, pornographic material, the diffusion of perfumes that have erotic association, body massage, masturbation without orgasm - any technique which serves to heighten your sexual arousal globally - that is, without being directed to any particular individual (real or imaginary).

The Evocatory scenario is a progression of intense sessions which may begin as follows:

1. Lie naked on your bed - the room is in darkness, but for the glow of a single candle. You have bathed and relaxed yourself. Seductive perfumes are diffused throughout the room and you have prepared the space as though you are about to receive a lover. Slowly, begin to caress yourself, intensely feeling each touch, each shiver of pleasure; imagining that the touch comes from an invisible lover who hovers above you. Concentrate at first on secondary erogenous zones when inflaming yourself, and stay as relaxed as possible. Any significant dream-images that follow such a session should be recorded.

2. repeat this experience, gradually allowing yourself to become increasingly excited, and slowly visualize the build-up of a shadowy form - fingers, lips, breast, thighs - parts of the lovers body which come into fleeting contact with your own. As you repeat the experience, associations will form between sensory stimuli and it can be helpful if you can create a special scent which, while having erotic associations, is unique for this operation. You should also take care to note any particular body postures and gestures (caresses) that you find yourself making - these can act as sensual asanas and mudras for the operation.

3. The final session of this sequence proceeds as above, but slowly allow yourself to approach orgasm. If you are experienced enough, and in touch with your body enough to allow yourself to hover on the brink of orgasm for as long as possible, then so much the better. As you approach orgasm, begin to vocalise love-noises, letting these sounds become glossolalia - until a distinct sound (it may or may not be an actual word) begins to repeat itself through you. As you attain orgasm, project this sound into the shadow-form above you, and see the shadow-form becoming distinct and clear. You may find that details of the entity which have been hitherto indistinct, will become clear in the illuminating flashes of orgasm. Sexual fluids released in this working can form the basis of a material sigil, but this is optional.

Now that Youve Evoked me here, what are we going to do?

Having gone through the process of evoking a Demon Lover, what can you actually do with them? The first point to consider is the states in which interaction with the entity takes place. What little magical writing there is on the subject tends to concentrate on Dream Magick, but it is also possible to continue using the Liminal Gnosis and, an often-undervalued area of magick, Working with Mirrors. There is also the possibility of Invocatory work with Demon Lovers.

Dream Yoga

Once you have evoked your demon lover, you can choose to interact with it through dreams. One of the easiest techniques of Dream Control is to use a sigil. Since Im sure most people are familiar with the basics of Sigil Magick, I will merely draw your attention to the point that a sigil need not be either a glyph or mantra, but can also take the form of a scent, or sequence of images. You can use earlier practice in the Liminal Gnosis to launch a sigil to meet your Demon Lover in your dreams. You could even try and key the appearance of the entity to the triggering of a Lucid Dream.

Liminal Gnosis

If your earlier practice has been successful, you will already have some experience of the Liminal Gnosis. Sexual Arousal is but one of the entry-routes into this state, and you might try and find other routes. Interaction with the Demon-Lover can be made in this state, and you might find here that you get dreams which follow-through the encounter.

Mirror-Magick

The Liminal Gnosis can be enhanced by the use of a mirror. The use of reflective surfaces for interacting with entities has a long and venerable history, ranging from shamanic practices among the Moari, Pawnee and Nkomis of Africa, to the explorations of Dr. John Dee. Demon-Lovers may be summoned into a mirror, where they may be cross-examined. A cautionary note here is that Dr. Dee made the claim that from time to time, one of the spirits he contacted - a young girl called Midimi - would emerge from his scrying crystal and cavort about his study This could have interesting possibilities when working with a Demon Lover!

Whichever states you choose to explore, the next consideration is of course, what you are going to do. Well, the very act of experimenting with this approach should in itself be instructive, and at the very least, enjoyable. However, the following applications for Demon Lover work include:

Enchantment

Here, you are basically forming a Pact with the entity - using it as you would use any other kind of Sorcery Servitor - you f%*! it and it carries out its assigned task (which is not neccesarily confined to the sphere of sexuality). One technique is to seed the entity with a sigil, which will gestate within the body of the entity, in a similar manner to a wishing box.



Illumination

According to Austin Osman Spare, desires are spirits that wish to incarnate. You can deploy a Demon Lover to assist you with the formulation of an Alphabet of Desire, wherein each sacred letter can become a sex-demon in itself, to be used in acts of self-exploration and self-modification. Your Demon Lover can assist you in recognising, binding, and integrating the hidden demons of your psyche which relate to sexuality and other primal drives.

Divination

Divinatory applications include dream-oracles, or flash-gnoses which may extend into the waking state. You may find, for example, that, following a request for a dream-oracle, your demon lover only gives you half the key, as it were. The other half is waiting in the waking world - some incident that sparks a moment of gnosis in which you realise the link between thought/emotion and some physical object or situation. Oracles are rarely straight-forwards.

Invocation

Traditional magical theory (such as it is) tends to frown on invoking entities such as Demon Lovers, as they are not considered to have enough of a developed persona to make it worthwhile. However, long-term magical use of such an entity does tend to build up the appearence of an independent persona, particularly if you make careful note of any quirks, personality traits, or mannersims that the entity seems to be displaying. I see no reason why, at some stage, you shouldnt try invocatory work with a Demon Lover. It could be instructive, if only for shifting latent sexual selves into the directors chair of the Ego.

A Word of Warning

The practice of intercourse with Demon Lovers is not without its dangers. The most obvious of these is obsession. In its broadest sense, obsession is the term we apply to a situation where the magician has relinquished will to an entity (usually of his own creation). Obsessions with a sexual component are particularly difficult to deal with - anyone who has had an obsessional crush on someone else will know what I mean. Sex, like anything else, can become an addiction which erodes the will. Intercourse with Demon Lovers is no exception, so self-discipline at all times, is important. Although a Demon Lover can generate a great deal of fascination and erotic tension, this should only be employed as a source of gnosis and magical work, and not allowed to get out of control. It can be useful to only use the entity for specific projects, and then, at staggered intervals. Intercourse with these entities can be exhausting. This is not so much due to any vampiric quality on their part, but is related to working in unusual states of consciousness - similar problems arise with extended astral, dream, or liminal work.

Another problem relating to this work is also fairly obvious - that the Demon Lover becomes a substitute for a physical partner. As with any relationship between human and entity (be it demon or deity), it is useful to assume its independent existence - if only during the interaction. However, I have seen warnings in a variety of magical grade papers that hint of the dire consequences of giving these entities the same regard that you would a human lover. By the same token, conjuring a Demon Lover for the precise reason that you lack a human lover is tantamount to inviting obsession, with all the attendent problems. As success with this technique requires an appreciation of your own sensuality, bodily awareness, sexual feelings and orgasmic response, it should not be attempted by the overly frustrated, or the sexually inept or inexperienced.

This practice should also lead to a wider appreciation of your sexual being and possible range of sexual identities. If you have sealed disturbing elements of your sexuality behind blocks, then you might well find that this practice leads you into a situation where you have to confront these experiences. This may not be pleasant, but can be, if you allow it, instructive, and possibly healing.

If, for whatever reason, you do find that working with a Demon Lover brings up problems that you find difficult to handle, then there are basically three strategies which can be brought up. The first is to perform a thorough Banishing of the area you are using for this practice (i.e. bedroom). Secondly, you can evoke the entity and confine it into a spirit trap such as a triangle, bottle, or crystal, and ritually re-bind it to your will. Thirdly, there is the option of reabsorption, which can be performed as a ritual or within the Liminal Gnosis. The simplest approach here is to take back the entities name, destroy any material base, visualise the emotions/sensations/abilities you may have bestowed upon it as withdrawing back into your body and finally (and this can be difficult) denying it any sexual response or erotic association. Then, go and have a cold shower.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Closed
Topic Notes
Reply to this topicStart new topic

Collapse

Similar Topics

Topic Title Replies Topic Starter Views Last Action
Discarding Servitor 3 Gatin 9,091 Apr 12 2011, 04:30 PM
Last post by: Gatin
How To Recreate A Servitor 5 GargoyleChick 10,611 Oct 5 2010, 01:05 AM
Last post by: Petrus
How Can I Talk To Me Servitor? 14 GargoyleChick 11,438 Jul 7 2010, 03:21 AM
Last post by: Kath
Psionic Servitor 2 bkl777 6,293 Mar 15 2010, 05:11 PM
Last post by: kaboom13
Servitor/familiar For Artistic Endeavors 1 CosmicInferno 2,550 Jul 30 2009, 08:28 AM
Last post by: Casadeluna

2 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 9th November 2024 - 05:46 PM