The Spiritual Stimulant Of Salvia, Getting high for magickal reasons Options

I happen across this article on the web: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum

I've never used Salvia, but heard about it a few years ago. Well, recently recalling the herb, I got curious about it and looked it up.

The article says that shamans used it religiously to achieve "visions".

What do you think? Were they on to something, or were they getting carried away with hallucinations?

I would say in small doses that it may be used but i tried 75 extract of it out of a water pipe and was trying to sit back and enjoy it but its such an uncontrollable hallucinations. And this was only after one hit. But maybe a 20x and i would say that you might be able to really use it to spiritual advance.

I happen across this article on the web: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum

I've never used Salvia, but heard about it a few years ago. Well, recently recalling the herb, I got curious about it and looked it up.

The article says that shamans used it religiously to achieve "visions".

What do you think? Were they on to something, or were they getting carried away with hallucinations?

Salvia's effects vary greatly from person to person, and with dosage. Have a sitter, start with low dosages, and experiment.

I just meditate--maybe have some coffee beforehand for additional stimulation. Probably they did have salvia back when I was young and into the use of recreational drugs but I don't remember it being common. I've kinda retired from recreational stimulants anymore so I'm not very current on what is around. But I do fine without anything other than meditational techniques. Primarily I quieten down my mind until I can listen and be receptive. If you can quieten down your thoughts and stop the mental noise then you can become aware of what is deep inside of you and all around you. Cool stuff.

I believe strong natural drugs should only be used by the highest of adepts, and then very sparingly. That's just my view, I mostly side with Goibnu, instead of taking the quick path, learn to use your mind to effect the body... This is a new age, yes a new age (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chair.gif) the power and knowledge out there right now is almost scary, rarely do we need such strong interventions, but if you just want to trip out and have a good time, make sure you're with good people and all that.

No shaman will use Salvia to see any spirits
carlos castaneda is a dead author and you should google him

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