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Kin234
post Jul 22 2007, 10:20 PM
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Don't know if this is the right place to ask or if anyone has any experience with this but the last few nights i've been having some strange experiences.

I have been a lucid dreamer all my life and do it very regularly quite naturally, but the last few nights, the dreams have seemed so real and i've had a very high level of conscious awareness. Normally this would be a good thing, but the last few nights i've been battling it out against demons, evil spirits, etc. Luckily for me, I know how to force myself awake, but as soon as i fall asleep again I find myself in the same situation. I've been trying everything to fend them off but nothing seems to be working.

Here is what i've tried so far:
-sending love, picturing things that make me happy and saying to them "I forgive you and god loves you"
-calling out for god's help, and help from Jesus Christ
-Visualising myself being filled and surrounded by white light, I also tried other colours of light.

I hate to say it, but none of these new agey techniques seem to work. Is there anyone out there who has a real technique that works? do i need to fight fire with fire?

These dreams seem to be getting more intense, the last one they started "charging up" and throwing fireballs at me, it was like their body started glowing bright red and then fireballs would shoot out from their hands. Even if these are just dreams, and I am not some place in between, I would still like to know at least one or two ways of defending myself for future reference.

Hopefully there is someone on this forum who has dealt with this kind of thing in reality and has a tried and tested self-defense technique.


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post Jun 18 2010, 11:10 AM
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I have to agree with Vagrant Dreamer on this. It may be an external attack or an internal one. But if you are internally balanced then they will have a harder time finding a foot hold, or if it's purely internal it will just go away.

If it's external the entity may be having a hard time communicating with you and that may be making it aggressive. I believe that is why the some grimoires command entities to take on a pleasing from. And think about it if a child has trouble communicating, they will tend toward resorting to violence. You control your dreams you can make demands on the aggresive entities, you can even imagine them being changed or bond. Heck imagine the ground forming hands and grbbing them and holding them.

Also to go back to the first point, in AC's book Moonchilde the hero's teacher who could have easily blasted or reflected the attacking demons back or summoned something to attack their assailants simply absorbed them like a T cell eating a virus. He did this because he was internally balanced and suffered no ill effects. If their is an entity trying to communicate with you it would behove you to find out what they want by questioning it. At least then you'll know for a fact whether you should go on the warpath. You may find out that what you thought was fireballs are just messages missinterpreted. After all the electrons that transmit this probably look like fireballs from the right perspective.

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Kin234   Does Anyone Have Any Self-defense Tips?   Jul 22 2007, 10:20 PM
Vagrant Dreamer   Consider very carefully the context of the dreams,...   Jul 23 2007, 12:41 AM
Slayden   Kin234, I know EXACTLY what you are going through....   Jul 23 2007, 02:41 AM
Kin234   Thanks for the replies guys, some very good advice...   Jul 23 2007, 05:57 AM
Slayden   For the fighting fire with fire part, summon the e...   Jul 23 2007, 06:23 AM
Kin234   Cool, thanks for that Slayden :) I'm usually ...   Jul 23 2007, 06:45 AM
Slayden   Ah. Psi-shields are a little different. They offer...   Jul 26 2007, 12:55 AM
4symbols   The best method of defence it forming in own consc...   Aug 17 2007, 01:29 AM
Petrus   Normally this would be a good thing, but the last ...   Nov 25 2007, 12:58 PM
telempath   Here is what i've tried so far: -sending love,...   Nov 25 2007, 02:02 PM
Lucian   Ave Cutting to the chase: Use shielding technique...   Dec 7 2007, 05:53 PM
altpath   Kin234, those are bad attacks being sent to you b...   Dec 8 2007, 11:51 PM
azareth   I used to have this problem a while ago, and it go...   Jul 6 2008, 12:47 AM
Krell   I have to throw in with Vagrant Dreamer. Everythi...   Jul 6 2008, 09:32 AM
+ Kinjo -   A friend of mine currently are spiritually attacke...   Aug 9 2008, 03:52 PM
Krell   The rusty nail makes sense. Perhaps there are oth...   Aug 12 2008, 10:18 AM
Aphrodite   I believe that those are external entities attacki...   Aug 12 2008, 08:55 PM
eternal ginja   i have to agree with krell and vagrant. internal c...   Sep 17 2008, 07:38 PM
Shimi   Ok there arent enough symptoms to suggest that a b...   Feb 17 2010, 08:30 PM
Moonchilde   First, I must say that I am not entirely convinced...   Feb 18 2010, 10:02 PM
SororZSD23   this post originated some years ago so it would be...   Feb 19 2010, 08:31 AM
anatole   i did not finished reading all the posts, i stoppe...   May 25 2010, 10:30 PM
Slyphhur   If you really want to fight them then you are goin...   May 26 2010, 09:21 AM

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