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azareth
post Apr 5 2009, 01:05 PM
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The golden developed a vey nice and effective way for drawing sigils,that is the rose cross,many magicians used this method with success,I keep a copy in my grimoire,there is not much to say actually about it so i will just insert the rose cross:
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simply trace the word you want to sigilize with a pencil drawing a small horizontal line in the beginning of the sigil and a small circle at the end.

Charge the sigil and good luck.


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post Nov 17 2011, 12:13 PM
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Wow, Praxis you've been on a resurrection kick for a while here, haven't you?



Yeah - when I can, instead of starting new threads that just bring up topics which already have been brought up, I have been resurrecting some of the old threads and adding to them. Hopefully, doing so will encourage new members and visitors to this site to read what has come before, and encourage them to know it's okay to add their perspectives - even if those who first engaged the topics are not here.

In addition to adding a kind of continuity over time to the entire process, it also lets members see that some perspectives can indeed change over time about various issues as poster's personal development progresses.



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It's a demonstration of the same principle. If two or more people take the same symbol and work with it in precisely the same way, in tandem and 'cadence', both internally and externally, then yes the work is empowered by their collective efforts - this is the whole point of initiation and lodge work. It's the reason initiation is such a lengthy process. Like IA mentioned, it's the indoctrination process; it gets everyone on the same page, working the same way, having traveled the same path (as 'same' as it can be, anyway) with the same connections, interpretations, and symbols that all mean precisely the same thing to all of them. It is not enough for a group of people to just agree that this symbol is good for making sigils. It has to be much, much deeper than that.

Beyond that though aside from having internal consistency that won't confuse the unconscious, making a group work like that is really that simple - which is to say, structuring it is relatively simple. For it's purpose, the rose cross might as well be a rose star, or a rose doorknob, or anything else. As long as everyone is on the same page from the bottom up, it works the same way.



This all is a great elucidation for why Magickal Orders work well with aligning symbols and symbolized for their members.

I can see how Initiation within an Order may be the bridge which, once crossed, enables aspirants to not only learn the various symbols of their system well - but also stimulate their intent and focus enough to smith the links between symbol and symbolized, such that ritual work with them (according to the Order's practice) can be maximally magickally effective.


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azareth   The Rose Cross   Apr 5 2009, 01:05 PM
azareth   http://www.wisdomsdoor.com/wb/images/hwb-sigil-3.g...   Apr 8 2009, 05:08 PM
Imperial Arts   [img]http://www.wisdomsdoor.com/wb/images/hwb-sig...   Apr 8 2009, 07:11 PM
azareth   What, in your opinion, makes these sigils valid? W...   Apr 9 2009, 02:15 PM
Imperial Arts   The Golden Dawn tradition uses a consecration ritu...   Apr 10 2009, 12:59 AM
Mchawi   Not quite there yet so excuse me commenting but a ...   Apr 11 2009, 08:55 AM
Aphrodite   The Golden Dawn tradition uses a consecration rit...   Apr 11 2009, 09:56 AM
esoterica   so then what is the base object onto which this si...   Apr 11 2009, 09:20 AM
azareth   "The Golden Dawn tradition uses a consecratio...   Apr 11 2009, 01:21 PM
Aphrodite   I like your analogy of the dollar sign, its used a...   Apr 11 2009, 04:49 PM
Imperial Arts   I would assert that belief in one's magic has ...   Apr 11 2009, 07:07 PM
Aphrodite   I think I understand the typewriter/rose cross ana...   Apr 11 2009, 09:04 PM
Imperial Arts   my theory was since many people use the rose cros...   Apr 12 2009, 11:53 AM
esoterica   >>"Doubt! Doubt all! Doubt even...   Apr 12 2009, 08:45 AM
azareth   Imperial arts : "would assert that belief in...   Apr 12 2009, 01:02 PM
Aphrodite   “This reminds me of Dee and kelly's experiment...   Apr 12 2009, 03:24 PM
Imperial Arts   I don’t believe Malkuth is a self aware entity, ...   Apr 12 2009, 04:21 PM
Fio Praeter Humanus   [color=#3333FF] The Rose is a symbol taken from t...   Apr 15 2009, 01:11 PM
azareth   The rose is the heart of the rose cross, the lame...   Apr 15 2009, 01:29 PM
Aphrodite   I agree that using the rose cross with out inheren...   Apr 12 2009, 05:16 PM
Mchawi   Yeesh, don't let this turn into an argument. I...   Apr 13 2009, 06:29 AM
Remared   Well going by the quote you threw up I should “dou...   Apr 15 2009, 09:48 AM
azareth   I am pretty sure IA's use of Crowley's qu...   Apr 15 2009, 01:16 PM
azareth   we don't have any business using their symbols...   Apr 13 2009, 04:29 PM
Aphrodite   “A sigil being a type of phone number that you can...   Apr 15 2009, 02:47 PM
Praxis   A map is not the same as the territory. A menu is ...   Nov 15 2011, 07:37 AM
Vagrant Dreamer   Wow, Praxis you've been on a resurrection kick...   Nov 17 2011, 11:02 AM

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