Salvia, really bad trip Options

Okay, so I was doing some salvia. I bought the third best. I took one major drag and I coughed really hard, which made me nervous. Therefore I had a BAD trip. It was like the universe ripped open and these dentist-like people with overly large heads and teeth started rolling up the universe to put it away. They started rolling everything up with me in it, and of course at the time I was part of everything else and part of me was in a parallel world within and behind me, getting passed along a conveyor belt back into myself to be properly put away. I looked to my friends to ask them about it. My friend looked at me like I was crazy and said "Well what else did you think was going to happen? You're done with life." And while I was being rolled up I got stabbed by some random white rod that was getting rolled up too, and my blood was dripping horizontally across the rod. The dentist people said "You must be ketchup." while my friends were talking about calling an ambulance in an oddly calm yet still concerned tone. I think at one point I actually was ketchup. As well as a closet-ish roll of sheet metal. And at some point I submersed into the ground. And McDonalds was involved somehow. I think maybe the dentist people were from McDonalds.

Oh, and randomly there was a house on a hill by some body of water, which confused me and only made the trip worse.

I was hoping for something that made me question reality, but wow.

Any thoughts or similar experiences?

(Sorry if this doesn't belong here.)

Salvia felt like nothing so much as an epileptic seizure, to me. The only difference between them was with the seizure, you don't experience crazy shit but just black out at the "peak".

When I tried salvia, nothing quite as fucked up as your trip happened; I did live an entire lifetime (or so it felt) as a mixture between an ant and a playing card, in service to the Queen. It wasn't unpleasant at the time, although there was an undercurrent of hopelessness, but I don't think I'd want to experience it again.

salvia is not really abusable - the idea is to have a question, a deep question, in your mind beforehand - to just do some salvia without a question or intent is to have just such an odd trip, a machiavellian romp through the subconscious - the oracles were given questions to answer, hard questions like whether a country would or should invade or the like, you know, big questions, then with that intent they did the drug and then the images of their trip were interpreted as having the answer to the question embedded within them

Well I did Salvia just for the sake of making me question my own reality. Expanding my paradigm, so to speak. So while I didn't get any divine answers out of it's use, I at least have a somewhat broader perception of the world. Or maybe a broader perception of what isn't the world. Either way it was a good experience for the sake of experience.

>>Or maybe a broader perception of what isn't the world.

i like that statement! - i try to spend as much time as possible in what isn't!

i had a life once as such an oracle, there were all sorts of rituals prior to using the drug (we didn't smoke it, more like it burned in pots in an enclosed small room) - the rituals prior to using the drug were there to make sure the question was in the subconscious as well as the conscious (some sort of tattwa of a temporary tattoo?), and that some sense of purity was established to cut down on bad trips - i do have a loose memory of a girl having a really bad trip and couldn't be an oracle anymore, perhaps i can do a story about it someday

This post has been edited by esoterica: Jul 22 2010, 07:41 AM

"the rituals prior to using the drug were there to make sure the question was in the subconscious as well as the conscious (some sort of tattwa of a temporary tattoo?), and that some sense of purity was established to cut down on bad trips "

Could you please elaborate on this? It sounds very interesting.

Salvia is very strong, if not short lived