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post Oct 5 2006, 10:03 AM
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Ive been reading about the chakra's and am not exactly confused but then am not finding out what I want to know about them. It would be healpful to know other peoples oppinions? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused012.gif)

For example is it right to think that they are energy centers of our being that deal with the flow of information with the out side world? Ive read that we can protect them with covering them with leaves. And to stop them from working is to picture them as a flower closing up. And of course to open them again would be to open the flower. Ive read someone's topic on chakras and they mentioned...

"Imagine a lotus flower growing up from a seed in the earth through the chakras. Grip the stem with a light root lock at the Muladhara Chakra at the base of the spine. Then steady the stem with a light diaphragm lock and neck lock. Now, Imagine a Lotus Flower blossoming open at the crown. You can visualize a beautiful violet color in the middle of the flower getting lighter at the tips of the petals. Visualize two pathways on either side of the spine like the double helix of a DNA molecule. Spiral the inhale down either side of the stem as the lotus closes and exhale up through the center as it blossoms open. Inhale think Sat Nam. Exhale Wah Hay Guru. Time open."

Another recent idea I had for some reason although not too sure what I was doing or why but I formed a couple of pink astral energy balls and absorbed them to the heart and solar plexus, not sure if this would work. I guess the idea was to form an emotional understanding between me and the persons involved.

Something else ive been wondering is about telepathy sort of as a chakra, picturing a black lotus flower opening or closing, im not too sure why this is but i had an experience a while ago and wanted to shut down telepathy but hadnt actually done so, so i dont know if this would work. I just pictured it one day but dont realy know why black or even if it would work.

So many people have different ideas on the chakras im not too sure what to do. But then again there are things missed from what we can do or i havnt found what im looking for. I wonder how they came to their opinions. Often the colors are different too. Any help here is greatly appriciated.

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post Oct 9 2006, 02:20 AM
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Im actually very interested to know as well, good thing you posted this. However, im sure they have a lot to do with the aura and emotions...or energy manipulation.

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post Oct 9 2006, 02:12 PM
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Im actually very interested to know as well, good thing you posted this. However, im sure they have a lot to do with the aura and emotions...or energy manipulation.


Thanks for the reply. It's a topic greatly covered but then theres no detailed description for someone like myself (guide for dummies), I need plane english. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fish1.gif)

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post Oct 10 2006, 05:38 PM
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If anyone reads this topic, dya think this is right for a start?...

In the womb our chakra's are blooming, but then at birth we are very scared once released out into the open so our chakra's get damaged. As we grow older into a child they start to heal and open more once again, we get to a certain point in our lives (teenager or yunger) and then start to think and feel differently and our chakras change becomming more open or closed, depending on our strife and understanding.

They are not just an in and out comms unit for the outside world?
Not too sure what it would do to close them or open them fully though. What would happen to our being?

This isnt a chakra right but can work in the same way I guess. As mentioned above, one day I wanted to shut off telepathy bacause of too much interferance (annoying spirits), so for some reason I pictured a black lotus flower with a yellow center closing. Havent tried it yet but I may have been on to something.

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post Oct 13 2006, 05:30 PM
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post Oct 15 2006, 02:49 AM
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I think the budhist religion or some faction within it uses chakras.Maybe you should llok up the religion in an encyclopedia (try wikipidea) and move to chakras then look up external links - from there you may reach site after site on such knowledge - see whixh suits you best.

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post Oct 15 2006, 11:16 AM
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Remembered the other day that when we meditate with a crystal, the body stores the energy in a storage area conected to the body and releases it overtime. When I saw what I saw it seemed like there was enough to last a while from just the 1 session of meditation, although I didnt see it again afterwards so I have no idea how long it would take. The storage area seems to be infront of the skin.
Also just recently whilst meditating I've experimented with energy balls and absorbed them into my chakra's. In view I guess they are set behind the chakra because of they way im thinking about it, which is that the chakra in thought is where the skin is. And the same would go for the energy ball of being released over time and have no idea though how long for.
However, when doing other mediation exercises from this link... http://reiki-for-holistic-health.com/chakr...meditation.html
is that they are viewed inside you, not where the skin meets the air or the oposite, where the skin meets the muscle. I would guess from this that it would have to be near where the chakra is mostly considered. This makes me wonder though if you can effect your chakras from projected thoughts that are else where. I was doing just that when I thought what it says about the red chakra from the link above, when I visualized the roots connecting to the ground and it felt like it did something.

Not too sure what im babbling on about though but there's some more info on chakra's for you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Hope that makes sense,
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post Oct 15 2006, 04:25 PM
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Not too sure about this right havent been succesfull in finding much info but the way I see it right, your meant to picture a chakra as a flower because of the way the light works with flowers. Basically when we hurt we close off from life, the same as if it's getting dark with a flower (dark being evil or of course hurt). Other things can happen too like being died out in some way etc. So in order to let light (happiness) in you would want to open your chakras more. Im not too sure however what this would do to someone, if it would cause more hurt once you get hurt again or would you be more forgicing? Also still not sure if the chakra's deal with life in a psychic way or is it face to face contact or both?¿

This article tells you how it is with the outside workd...
http://www.scns.com/earthen/other/seanachaidh/chakras.html

In the first post it says about seeing the ability of telepathy as a chakra although im not too sure if it would work in the same way with the light but then again the situation is emotional too, do you want to hear it or not? Hope someone has read this message and tried it out though! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif)

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post Oct 16 2006, 11:34 AM
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well, what chakras are are just pools energythat are concentrated either near or in the body. the chakras have emotional correspondances associated with them. they also have elemtal associations depending on which tradition you are researching. there is an "islamic" or Vedic tradition, there is also a buddist tradition of chakras and the classification thereof. the chakras in their placement on the body correspond with the taoist energy channels that are used in (bum bada bum! "Fanfare" ) taoist meditations. the taoist meditation channels are also used in many forms of energy work, such as tai chi, Qi gong, and accupressure.
lets take for example the heart chakra which is "supposed " to be green. its corresponding element is air. there are sound associations and mudras ( finger positions ) that go along with this chakra as well even gods and goddesses.
the buddist tradition belives that the chakra meditations are to better help you on the path of enlighten ment by ( i belive,research this!) the raising of Kundalini energies whic lay dormant at the base of the muladhar/ root chakra (at the base of the perrinium and anus) the raising of kundalini is said to be very painfull due to the fact that the energy "erupts" from the Crown chakra( top of the head) in stead of circling throughout the body and eventually being grounded.
im sorry that my thoughts appear jumbled (that's because they probobly are) but i hope this helps out some .

ask if there is any ting else you dont under stand
hope this site helps
http://www.sacred-texts.com/
http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/c/chakras.html
http://www.themystica.com/mystica/pages/neo_paganism.htm
http://healing.about.com/od/chakras/
also yoga corresponds with chakras too, its all just a nother way to get closer to the creation energies.

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post Oct 16 2006, 02:14 PM
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ve been reading about the chakra's and am not exactly confused but then am not finding out what I want to know about them. It would be healpful to know other peoples oppinions?

For example is it right to think that they are energy centers of our being that deal with the flow of information with the out side world? Ive read that we can protect them with covering them with leaves. And to stop them from working is to picture them as a flower closing up. And of course to open them again would be to open the flower. Ive read someone's topic on chakras and they mentioned...

Essentially chakras are a part of one way to describe what mystics call the subtle anatomy. Almost every culture from ancient times had thier own mystic philosophy that explained the function and relationship of invisible forces. THe human body is basically an energy node. This energy has been called many things - Chi and Prana are the two biggies. The subtle anatomy can be broken down to models of energy centers that correspond to many energies, ie planets, the septagram, even sephira of the kabbalah. Each energy center of the subtle body then serves its own function - a state of councsiousness, parts of the body, colors, shapes, sounds this can very from one philosophy to the next.

In Hindu, chakras are the main energy centers of the subtle anatomy that run from the crown of the skull to the base of the spin. Each does indeed correspond to energies that are affluent through out nature and each can also be manipulated using their corresponding natural forces. Hindu (yoga is a hindu practice too) generally works with seven. But some eastern philosophies work with as many as nine that include the legs (I think Taoism is example) and in kabbalah there are ten. If flowers are not to your liking when trying to tap these energies try eyes instead or some other form that opens and closes.
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"Imagine a lotus flower growing up from a seed in the earth through the chakras. Grip the stem with a light root lock at the Muladhara Chakra at the base of the spine. Then steady the stem with a light diaphragm lock and neck lock. Now, Imagine a Lotus Flower blossoming open at the crown. You can visualize a beautiful violet color in the middle of the flower getting lighter at the tips of the petals. Visualize two pathways on either side of the spine like the double helix of a DNA molecule. Spiral the inhale down either side of the stem as the lotus closes and exhale up through the center as it blossoms open. Inhale think Sat Nam. Exhale Wah Hay Guru. Time open."

In Hindu, each energy center channels its force through pathways called nadis. We actually have nadis that run through out the body, but the double helix pattern you describe are the two main nadis that run from the base of the spine to the nostrils. I believe the left nostril correlates to the ida (and lunar energies) the right is called the pingala (solar energies). In pranyama (I think litterally means "breath", - the art of breathing) one utilizes the ida and pingala to raise energy from the kundalini, at the base of the spine or Mulahdara, as well as activate and channel energies through one's chakras.

Regardless of which model of the subtle anatomy one practices with, tt is very important to understand that these energies are not to be dabbled with. You can really hurt yourself and put your body out of whack. In psychological terms, the practices of rasing energy through the energy centers is essentially learning to use the brain (mind over body) to tap into the glands of the body. If one does not treat this very seriously they may become over stimulated resulting in hypersensitivity amung other things. Use much caution and much practice to work yourself up to more complex skills.

In wicca the raising of the kundalini is called "rousing leviathan" and used in rituals to raise energy for magick.
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Something else ive been wondering is about telepathy sort of as a chakra, picturing a black lotus flower opening or closing, im not too sure why this is but i had an experience a while ago and wanted to shut down telepathy but hadnt actually done so, so i dont know if this would work. I just pictured it one day but dont realy know why black or even if it would work.

The beauty of the subtle anatomy is that its a concept that hasn't been boiled down to a science and any practioner (Hindi, Taoist, Wiccan, Kabbalist) can experiment, responsibly after they have learned the basics, with their own subtle bodies to discover hidden "powers" or abilities.
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So many people have different ideas on the chakras im not too sure what to do. But then again there are things missed from what we can do or i havnt found what im looking for. I wonder how they came to their opinions. Often the colors are different too. Any help here is greatly appriciated.

This is why I mentioned the subtle anatomy and other forms of expressing it (the mystc kabbalah, taoism) because when I learned this stuff I was told that the models presented are really guidelines and that if one practices these guidelines without discovering what they mean to each of us individually, then the practioner has missed the point all together. Exploring the subtle anatomy is all about self discovery and an critical part of learning magick. The colors, senses, gods, functions, shapes ect ect ect are all uniquely different for each of us. Learning any given model and its correspondances are essential to any begginer. But once one has that down pat the only way for further exploration and ultimately trancending reality is to figure out how each of the energy centers and their functions/abilities related to us personally. The fact that you pictured a black lotus is not a bad thing at all. In fact I would make note of it because it is personal to you and your eventual progress.

I will stress that while I said each model is only a guidline that ultimate trancendance is found through discovering one's own energy centers and how it corresponds to natural energies - learn your choosen model(s) because it will give you the skills and control to master your own subtle body *safely*.

Some key concepts to research or keep in the back of your mind, in no particular order - subtle anatomy of the body and the universe, kundalini, the mystic kabbalah and the sephiroth tree of life, chinese accupunture, Tibeten buddhism and the nine psychic centers, hatha yoga, pranyama, rousing leviathan and the holy trinity in Christianity (yes even Christians have ideas about the subtle body and universe) and gnosis.

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post Oct 16 2006, 05:41 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. Been a great help! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Will post some more info here from what I find.

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