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post Aug 28 2005, 07:17 PM
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In Asmodays description it says that he gives you the "ring of virtues" does anyone know what that is if so could you share? So far I haven't been able to find anything about it anywhere. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

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post Aug 30 2005, 01:28 PM
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Interesting, I was just reading that this morning and wondering the same thing. I figure perhaps calling up Asmoday and asking would be the best way to find out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Depends on your definition of virtues I guess. Prob quite a handy item.

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post Sep 1 2005, 01:37 PM
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In my personal opinion and experience I think that the text intended to define things in a manner that didn't translate well.

I will quote from the Pseudomonarchia Daemonum (available in the library)

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annulum virtutum: Docet absolute
Geometriam, Arithmeticam, Astronomiam,
Mechanicam: Ad interrogata plene & vere
respondet: Hominem reddit invisibilem: Loca
thesaurorum ostendit & custodit, si fuerit de
legionibus Amaymonis.

The beginning (Dat annulum virtutum) translates to he giveth a ring of virtues:
Note though that there is then a semicolon and a list beginning with
He teacheth absolutely Geometry, Arithmetic, Astronomy, and Mechanics it then continues with his other gifts.

I feel the word ring should be thought of in terms of "circle" or an arrangement of objects in a circle and not an actual physical ring worn on the finger. Think tree ring, boxing ring, etc. The virtues making up the ring are then described.

Geomotry, Arithmetic, Astronomy, and Music make up the Quadrivium or the four greater liberal sciences of Latin thought although at the time period of the Pseudomonarchia(1577) Music was rapidly being overtaken by mechanics. Kepler and Galileo were entering the arena and DaVinci had left recently.

Just some observations.

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post Sep 2 2005, 11:24 AM
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Awesome post Chaoscrowley, thanks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ac42.gif)
Nice to have someone with a knowlege of Latin around (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
What do you think they mean by Virtues?

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post Sep 2 2005, 09:29 PM
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I thought that maybe it meant that it wasn't a physical ring but also it could be a ring as in one you wear no other spirit which has the similar attributes words it quite that way but by no means am i saying your not correct chaoscrowely i'm pretty new at this so... the simple thing would be to summon him myself but i don't feel comfortable with summoning anyone/thing yet especially amsmoday, though of all the spirits amsmoday and vassago are the ones i feel most connected too.

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