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 Incunabula/Ong's Hat, Discussion of Quantum Weirdness
HenrySpencer
post Mar 30 2005, 02:53 AM
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For detailed background you can look at the Incunabula Research Center. I have found the ideas in this particular conspiracy theory very intriguing for quite some time and was wondering what others think about it's implications of literal travel to alternate worlds using some form of Quantum Tantric exercises. The following is from the Background intro to the "travel brochure" titled Ong's Hat: Gateway to the Dimensions that you can find at the link I provided just to give you a quick idea of what this is about.
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During the 1970s and '80s, "chaos" began to emerge as a new scientific paradigm, on a level of importance with Relativity and Quantum Mechanics. It was born out of the mixing of many different sciences—weather prediction, Catastrophe Theory, fractal geometry, and the rapid development of computer graphics capable of plunging into the depths of fractals and "strange attractors; "hydraulics and fluid turbulence, evolutionary biology, mind/brain studies and psychopharmacology also played major roles in forming the new paradigm. The slogan "order out of chaos" summed up the gist of this science, whether it studied the weird fractional-dimensional shapes underlying sworls of cigarette smoke or the distribution of colors in marbled paper—or else dealt with "harder" matters such as heart fibrillation, particle beams or population vectors. However, by the late '80s it began to appear as if this "chaos movement" had split apart into two opposite and hostile world-views, one placing emphasis on chaos itself, the other on order. According to the latter sect—the Determinists—chaos was the enemy, randomness a force to be overcome or denied. They experienced the new science as a final vindication of Classical Newtonian physics, and as a weapon to be used against chaos, a tool to map and predict reality itself. For them, chaos was death and disorder, entropy and waste. The opposing faction however experienced chaos as something benevolent, the necessary matrix out of which arises spontaneously an infinity of variegated forms—a pleroma rather than an abyss—a principle of continual creation, unstructured, fecund, beautiful, spirit of wildness. These scientists saw chaos theory as vindication of Quantum indeterminacy and Godel's Proof, promise of an open-ended universe, Cantorian infinities of potential...chaos as health.

    Easy to predict which of these two schools of thought would recieve vast funding and support from goverments, multi-nationals and intelligence agencies. By the end of the decade, "Quantum/Chaos" had been forced underground, virtually censored by prestigious scientific journals - which published only papers by Determinists. The dissidents were reduced to the level of the margin—and there they found themselves part of yet another branch of the paradigm, the underground of cultural chaos—the "magicians"—and of political chaos-extremist anti-authoritarian "mutants".

    Unlike Relativity, which deals with the Macrocosm of outer space, and Quantum, which deals with the Microcosm of particle physics, chaos science takes place largely within the Mesosphere—the world as we experience it in "everyday life," from dripping faucets to banners flapping in the autumn breezes. Precisely for this reason useful experimental work in chaos can be carried on without the hideous expense of cyclotrons and orbital observatories. So even when the leading theoreticians of Quantum/Chaos began to be fired from university and corporate positions, they were still able to pursue certain goals. Even when they began to suffer political pressures as well, and sought refuge and space among the mutants and marginals, still they perservered. By a paradox of history, their poverty and obscurity forced them to narrow the scope of their research to precisely those areas which would ultimately produce concrete results—pure math, and the mind—simply because these areas were relatively inexpensive.

    Up until the crash of '87, the "alternative network" amounted to little more than a nebulous weave of pen-pals and computer enthusiasts, Whole Earth nostalgists, futurologists, anarchists, food cranks, neo-pagans and cultists, self-publishing punk poets, armchair schizophrenics, survivalists and mail artists. The Crash however opened vast but hard-to-see cracks in the social and economic control structures of America. Gradually the marginals and mutants began to fill up those fissures with the wegs of their own networking. Bit by bit they created a genuine black economy, as well as a shifting insubstantial "autonomous zone", impossible to map but real enough in its various manifestations. The orphaned scientists of Q/C theory fell into this invisible anti-empire like a catalyst—or perhaps it was the other way around. In either case, something crystallized. To explain the precipitation of this jewel, we must move on to the specific cases, people and stories.


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post Apr 17 2005, 09:42 PM
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I am hooked.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap.gif)
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post Apr 18 2005, 06:33 AM
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Great story. Enough pseudoscience jargon to get the reader interested, not enough information provided for anyone to check the facts. The radioactive waste part is great, keeps people away from the site of the 'gateway' (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Apr 18 2005, 07:58 AM
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Yep! I thought that I'd research it some more...including a trip to NJ...radioactive waste means little to someone who is almost dead anyway...what have I to lose? *chuckle* (IMG:style_emoticons/default/egypt1.gif)


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post Apr 19 2005, 08:35 PM
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I have always loved the story of Ong's Hat. If only I was told it as a bedtime story...

Ong's Hat is both an excellent example of pseudoscience (in the good meaning) and an entertaining piece of mind candy. Thanks for posting this!


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post Sep 22 2006, 11:45 PM
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Quite a few people visit the area around Ong's Hat during the Summer;
I prefer to go down to the Barrens in the Autumn. The camping is great
out Batsto way, in the old iron bogs. You can see some photos of Ong's
Hat over on the Pine Barren Forum:

http://forums.njpinebarrens.com/

And here's a link to an old map showing the town of Ong's Hat:

http://tinyurl.com/znktt

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post Sep 23 2006, 12:01 AM
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Oh, and while you are in Ong's Hat, be sure to visit:

Apanay Cafe
http://www.apanaycafe.com/

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post Nov 22 2006, 02:20 PM
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Aye, I was involved in the various incunabula messageboards (harla quinn's board, the old dark planet board, the deoxy incunabula research centre, there were a few ezboards up at the time as well related to ong's hat. Most of them are either gone or very quiet now as far as I know) that popped up when this first came online! There are quiet a few parallels between this and the original 'Wingmakers' site that showed up and was featured in a magazine I used to buy, however the Wingmakers site that is up now is not like the original documents at all, the entire overtone of the work was changed and the people running the official Wingmakers forums at once: 1] don't seem to know what the material is actually about or read any of it, and 2] are such devolved types of consciousness I don't know how they managed to even find such material. Just a warning!

I understand that a few people are working on building Eggs, off hand I know that the creator of the dark-planet-online site is intent on building one.

The practical idea is that time and thus space are constructions of our consciousness and central nervous system, hence by manipulating consciousness you should be able to travel in time and space, even to other worlds in parallel realities. Anyone who has ingested psychedelics, done meditation, performed tantra (for the folks at ong's hat they used computers and biofeedback to act as training wheels for the real journey), or been involved in sexual magic or worked in the aethers will tell you that the nature of time and how it is perceived (i.e trails) can be changed and isn't static or linear.

Even when your writing or drawing time seems to fly!

This is related to how you direct your attention and will, and how that changes how you percieve your environment.

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