rewards Options

Where can I find a list of suitable offerings to these beings for rewards if they do what I ask?

I have not find a list of offerings. But off the top of my head of the possible offerings includes: bread, grass, blood, personal fluids, food, 7 types of flowers, coconut, rice, lighting a candle, incense, a prayer, a poem, an art, and your soul (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Don't let them ask too much of you - don't forget you are in charge!

I'm not down with giving up my soul, lol if one exists.

I wonder if pouring warm blood over their sigil would work? For instance say I bought som beef, drained the blood into a cup, warmed it up and then poured it over the spirit's sigil? Or mayby paint it's sigil using the blood as paint...But then what would I do with the painting? I dunno...

from what I've read thus far blood is preferred, and I've heard of red wine being substituted as blood. I've also read of one that preferred a drink of good scotch.
I'll get back with more specifics on the scotch one...

I am actually posting from practical experience!
Ask the entity what they would like. (and no, they have no use for your soul, too many hollywood movies there I think). Build a website for them, art with their seal in it, tell others of their feat, place out fruit (I use berries a lot), alcahol, making their seal in metal, etc.

There are many options (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) The entities themselves are always good with ideas as well.

Athena

How long do you usualy give them to do an important task?

How long do you usualy give them to do an important task?

Well it depends how life changing the magic is, or how difficult it would be to manifest. I have had Goetia entities complete a task in 15 mins, and I have had some take a few months, it all depends on what you are having them do. Also, some projects are more long term, while others are a one off sort of thing.

I recommend usuallyl giving them about a month for most things.

Athena

A month sounds good to me!
One moon cycle.

A month sounds good to me!
One moon cycle.

Actually that is a good point. I tend to find that they understand "one moon cycle" better then "one month" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Athena

Okay, now you've sparked my intrist, as I've noticed a problem with the concept of time. I have yet to solve this time table dilemna and it seems to be my biggest hold back in both my divination and working with spirits, I'm so gonna try referring to moon cycles, is there any other suggestions you could make on the suggestion of time?
When I was younger I thought I was being lied to, but in almost every instance, if I took out the time table, they didn't lie. So I've realized this to definately be a shortcoming on my side and any help in working through that would be more than a little appreciated.
†Christopher Raven†
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P.S. Athena ~ I was not trying to offend you, I've just noticed most in this forum expect you to relate where such information came from, and I truley apoligize if I overstepped my bounds. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/worthy.gif)

Okay, now you've sparked my intrist, as I've noticed a problem with the concept of time. I have yet to solve this time table dilemna and it seems to be my biggest hold back in both my divination and working with spirits, I'm so gonna try referring to moon cycles, is there any other suggestions you could make on the suggestion of time?
When I was younger I thought I was being lied to, but in almost every instance, if I took out the time table, they didn't lie. So I've realized this to definately be a shortcoming on my side and any help in working through that would be more than a little appreciated.
†Christopher Raven†
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P.S. Athena ~ I was not trying to offend you, I've just noticed most in this forum expect you to relate where such information came from, and I truley apoligize if I overstepped my bounds. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/worthy.gif)

Hey (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Don't worry you didn't offend me at all, not sure where you got that idea. Hehe if I am offended I will be sure to say so <g>.

I can't think of any suggestions about the time thing other then state moon times, or "by next sunrise" or whatever. They seem to view time as differently as we do, for example I have had an evocation manifest once or twice before I even did it, and I know others have experienced this as well.

As far as evocation success in general I recommend daily meditation, ritual work and chackra exercises. This really helps in the long run.

Athena

They seem to view time as differently as we do, for example I have had an evocation manifest once or twice before I even did it, and I know others have experienced this as well.

That got me to thinking. I've been working with Michael since I started angel magic at age thirteen, and I'd noticed in studying the 18 Goetian under his charge there seemed to be one for that fit some of my most succesful spells like a glove. And some its almost as if they were looking out for me. At the time I did not consider that becuase I worked with Michael so much its only natural for me to start with the 18 under his charge, and I've been going through them as of late one by one....Your statement made me realize that maybe they were looking after me becuase inevitably I had called them in the future, and now I'm reaching that future point that may be the cuase for my past....
Sorry about the rant, but I descided to share that revelation becuase you inspired it...
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†Christopher Raven†