Conjuring Ose Options

Hey all, well months of research and physical and mental prepairing for this moment. My circle is made, my triangle is made, my sigils are made, the time for my ritual has been set. It is all coming down to this. Here is what Im going to do, feel free to respond.

1. ritual clensing bath.
2.KC,LBRP,KC,LBRH,KC,MPR,KC
3.Invokation of the Angels
4.5-10min meditation (focussing on Ose's energy)
5.the first Conjuration, an hope for the best.

Right on. Feel free to post how it goes. Good luck with your ritual. Is this your first one? I hope Ose is a good choice for you. Did he ever visit you or connect with you before the ritual?

Nope, this is not my first time conjuring Ose. Other times I have tried he has never shown up, i think. Till this day when I take a nap on my sofa I can hear paw prints walking around the living room, not strange you say? Well yes it is for a guy with no cats. An Ose "appears" in the form of a lepard. I am confident now that when I do it this time (in a few weeks Im still mentally prepairing) he will show up.

P.S.

If you have done conjuring before an you have any pointers on my ritual, or tips feel free to make them.

I'm curious. You said you made your circle. Did you make your own design or go the traditional route with the spiraling hebrew names of god etc.?

Basicaly I guess I was wondering if you are using the whole shebang with the traditional goetic tools. I'm just curious...

I'm hoping to record the statistics about how many successes there are with this form of magick using the traditional vs. self made procedures and whether it matters or not. Keep my posted.

I made my own design. I used english, cuz i dont understand hebrew. I figure that its better to use stuff that I can understand. Like with the conjurations, Im using english when some people told me it may be better to use the hebrew. I feel that Ose may not come if I read them in Hebrew and I dont understand what the hell Im saying.

As for the tools, Im going as traditional as possible. I got the sword, the robe, the wand, the dagger, the triangle. I made a majority of my own tools i.e. triangle, circle and sigls. I believe that when you can make your own stuff (properly) your putting a peice of your self into it making the connection with the demon that much stonger.

For example. Because I made my own tools and Im meditating on Ose's engergy, even though I used the License to Depart I can still feel Ose around my house at night. I believe this is because I put alot of myself into this ritual. I dont think my connection with him or any demon I plan to work with would be as strong if I bought my own circle, or triangle, or if I had a pro engrave the sigils for me.

Cool! I have my own design for the circle too. It has all the divine names on it, but it isn't written in a spiral. Instead I made all the names to exist in one giant circle with Kether and Malkuth starting at the same place. This is supposed to remind one of the ouroborous. No bgining and no ending, the alpha et omega. etc.
Then there is another circle outside that one that has the four archangel names on it(oner per quarter).

It is a rather simple design, but hopefully effective. I don't have a sword yet. I have the robe, the wand, the triangle of art, and the four pentagrams for the candles. I'm a little worried to progress without the crown/cap and sword though. But then again the one I wish to contact is number 12 which is supposed to be quite friendly, so perhaps I would be safe there. I don't know

This post has been edited by Enigmius: Jan 30 2006, 03:43 PM

4 Pentagrams? Tell me alittle more about that, why four? What method are you using?

As far as the crown and cap goes, dress this ritual up or dress it down but bare the essentials i.e. circle and mirror.

Best of luck to you.
Personally. Ose is a bit scary for me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wizard.gif) after reading Runyon's episode with him. But I'd be fascinated to hear the results, even if you think it was a failure. By the way-why do you think he didn't show up in the past? I know sorcerers who have no sign of the demon at all but then their demands are met.
I await your report with anticipatory zeal, whatever the hell that means.
Pratyahara (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

I feel that he hasnt shown in the past because I havent left an offering. I feel a strong connection with him, and it gets stronger when the day of the conjuring gets closer, the connection I feel isnt harmfull so im not so scared (completely). Ose is a hard Demon for me to research, so can you tell me what you know of him.

I only have runyon's evocation in his book. But Runyon says never to assume a spirit didn't show up just because you can't see him. Maybe he showed up and you never gave him his offerings and made your demand so he's hanging around in your dreams because if he never showed up, maybe you didn't banish him thoroughly.

It is helpful to treat each evocation of the Goetia as a completely valid act. (I.e. successful), many times you will not recognize the presence at first. Whether one is there or not you should still provide a charge (task) and a reward offered if the task it completed. Release the spirit even if you don't think you are releasing anything.

I found that my tasks were completed and the spirit was indeed present before I could totally recognize it. If you summon it multiple times without asking for anything, offering any reward, or releasing it, you are in a way being rather sloppy.

What reason does he have to appear again when the last time he showed up all he got to do was watch you play X-Box for a few hours after your conjuring.

Would you report to your job for months if all your boss gave you nothing to do and you received no paycheck?

Good post ChaosCrowley (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Yeah what he says, well put.
Btw, haven't seen you in awhile <hint>

Athena

Hey Crowly yea excellent post man. I know that I should have said before that yes I did give a charge and yes I did offer a reward, but low and behold the deed is not done.

"If you summon it multiple times without asking for anything, offering any reward, or releasing it, you are in a way being rather sloppy."

So Im gonna reply to you with an oldie but a goodie "You know what happens when you assume. . .you make an a$$ outta you and me"

Now I dont like being made to look like a fool, an im sure you dont either. Like you I have worked long and hard to try to master this craft, and since my last envokation Ive been working harder to build a strong connection with Ose (pretty nice guy from what Ive seen recently). So Im also gonna state for the record that you should ask if I did or what ive done before you jump to any conclusion. Im thankfull for the adivce though.

and before you all do the assuming thing again. . .Yes I did give the license to depart, and yet Ose is still hanging around my house.

Hey Crowly yea excellent post man. I know that I should have said before that yes I did give a charge and yes I did offer a reward, but low and behold the deed is not done.

"If you summon it multiple times without asking for anything, offering any reward, or releasing it, you are in a way being rather sloppy."

So Im gonna reply to you with an oldie but a goodie "You know what happens when you assume. . .you make an a$$ outta you and me"

Now I dont like being made to look like a fool, an im sure you dont either. Like you I have worked long and hard to try to master this craft, and since my last envokation Ive been working harder to build a strong connection with Ose (pretty nice guy from what Ive seen recently). So Im also gonna state for the record that you should ask if I did or what ive done before you jump to any conclusion. Im thankfull for the adivce though.

You are a little too edgy, calm down. He was stating an overall advice. If it does not apply to you you just skip over it and read the rest. It did not make anyone look like any body part.
Be sure to keep us posted on how it comes out btw..
Also, how many times have you evoked before? I'm not making any damn assumptions, it is just that lack of previous actual evocation experience is the number one reason for lack of results and I hate to see folks frustrated when it is just a simple try it another 20 times (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) If this does not apply to you, just skip past it, you are not the only one these replies are for...

Athena

and before you all do the assuming thing again. . .Yes I did give the license to depart, and yet Ose is still hanging around my house.

Personaly I think that is a good thing when they do that, but that is just me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
So you would prob want to ask Ose why he is still hanging around. Depending on what you asked him to accomplish, it is possible that he needed to hang around you to get it done. WEll more likely it is his legions that are hanging around you...
If they start to get out of hand or cause harm just let us know and I will give some ideas on how to clear them out.

Athena

Ok well here is how the ritual is going to go down.

-Starting by lighting my candeles and storax incense, and giving my offering of fresh oranges and strawberries.


I feel that he hasnt shown in the past because I havent left an offering.

and before you all do the assuming thing again. . .Yes I did give the license to depart, and yet Ose is still hanging around my house.

To: GoeticPrince57

I am supposed to interpret this post how?

I'm lost here, I won't assume, but how it is that he didn't show up, yet he is hanging around your house?

You gave an offerring of fresh oranges and strawberries but you didn't.


I can't follow your posts because much of what is stated is contradictory. Well I'll leave this for you to sort out because I am done with the Goetic Spirits thread.

I think your evocation went well when I look at the original description of Ose.


Ose is a great president, and
commeth foorth like a leopard, and
counterfeting to be a man, he maketh one
cunning in the liberall sciences, he
answereth truelie of divine and secret
things, he transformeth a mans shape, and
bringeth a man to that madnes, that he thinketh
himselfe to be that which he is not; as
that he is a king or a pope, or that he
weareth a crowne on his head,--Pseudomonarchia Daemonum(Weyer)(1563)

Enjoy!

This post has been edited by chaoscrowley37: Feb 6 2006, 08:39 AM

Ok friends, Next Sunday night is the big night. At 10:00pm I will attempt to Conjure the president Ose. I ask for all your prayers, and wish me luck. you can expect my next post the day after the ritual.

Ok friends, Next Sunday night is the big night. At 10:00pm I will attempt to Conjure the president Ose. I ask for all your prayers, and wish me luck. you can expect my next post the day after the ritual.

Well cool, ca't wait to hear about it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
You *sure* you would like prayers onyour behalf to Kali? <g> "Great mother Kali, this simple request and prayer is asked of you so that this perso named "goetic prince" may do well at summing, learn something from it, be changed from the experience and bring transformation so that said magician never acts as a lamer. This fruit is offered Oh DIine Destroyer".
Your call (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Yes Athena, Im sure I want your prayers.

Ok friends sorry it took so long for my reply, but my studies wait for no man.

Sunday at 10:00pm I was going to Conjure the President Ose. Heres the play by play.

Sunday - 8:30pm - got some last bit of practice on my rituals in.

Sunday - 9:00pm - checked my email before my ritual bath that put this whole thing to a hault.

Frater Thabian (Poke Runyon) had sent me an email about his encounter with Ose. In simplest terms he said
OSE = (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bones.gif) (((((DANGER))))).

Ok so now I know that Ose is of a "bad" nature. Am I still gonna conjure him? Yes. Is he still gonna be the first guy I conjure? Yes. Keep checkin my posts I plan to Conjure him before April. But first Im gonna get more prepaired physically and spiritually.

Greetings!
So...you were all set to conjure/evoke Ose when you received an email warning you about his nature.
You then cancelled the evocation...yet you still plan on going about it! ...? Just because Mr. Runyon warned you, you put off the Operation, yet you still, despite of the warning, plan on continuing this endeavor. Why? You could've just continued and it would be over...but the point I'm trying to make is the self assurity factor is none too stable. I'd think very seriously about it in the future. To know, to will, to dare and to keep silent.....think on this.
Ose is a very powerful entity. How many of you others out there feel that Goetics are 'a walk in the park'? Evocation is a stressful operation. It can deplete your life energies. At worst, it can either kill you or drive you mad! You must be ready and well prepared/trained to do this without losing something in the process! OK! Don't believe me. I guess it takes a published author to start you thinking about it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bomb.gif)

Ok so now I know that Ose is of a "bad" nature. Am I still gonna conjure him? Yes. Is he still gonna be the first guy I conjure? Yes. Keep checkin my posts I plan to Conjure him before April. But first Im gonna get more prepaired physically and spiritually.
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I think a better way to prepare would be to work on the other solomonic beings, the angels. Try to invoke them and communicate with them, afterall it is through the higher/planetary beings like the angels that we get the authority to comand those earthly beings like the goetic spirits..

But this is my opinion...I haven't done a goetic opperation yet either(I have worked with and still work with angels), but when I do I plan on working with a being that is a little more friendly. You know baby steps..


But it sounds like you are already thinking about preparing yourself before just diving into the goetic works so... Good luck bro

Enigmus - I have been working with the ArchAngels. I have a decent connection with Raphiel,Gabriel,Michael, and Uriel. When I said that I am going to prepair mentally I did mean make my connection with them even stronger. I have been walking with the angels before I run with the demons.

BYM-I take every warning with these demons seriously, your makin it sound like Im a foolish newbie. I know the creed, the way, and the secret of the way. I know this isnt a game, and I know what it takes. If I didnt I may have conjured him that night and not be here right now. Im taking this conjuring very seriously because of the personal connection I feel with Ose.

I didnt just take Frater Thabions advice seriously because hes got years and years of experience on it, but because he himself had conjured him so I know his advice is comming from an encounter with Ose. So before I go and conjure Ose, Im gonna get some more practice on my rituals, build my connection with the Angels more. This conjuration has become very personal to me because if anyone can tell me why I feel so connected with Ose. . . . Its Ose.

This post has been edited by GoeticPrince57: Feb 23 2006, 09:41 AM

Sorry dude I didn't mean to sound so critical, I'm sorry if came across like that. I just wanted you to know that I wasn't trying to be snotty or anything after all I am in the same boat with you, being a goetic virgin (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I was only trying to relay the information I have been getting and the advice I had received from others.

Again good luck, bro/sis.

Enigmus - I have been working with the ArchAngels. I have a decent connection with Raphiel,Gabriel,Michael, and Uriel. When I said that I am going to prepair mentally I did mean make my connection with them even stronger. I have been walking with the angels before I run with the demons.

BYM-I take every warning with these demons seriously, your makin it sound like Im a foolish newbie. I know the creed, the way, and the secret of the way. I know this isnt a game, and I know what it takes. If I didnt I may have conjured him that night and not be here right now. Im taking this conjuring very seriously because of the personal connection I feel with Ose.

I didnt just take Frater Thabions advice seriously because hes got years and years of experience on it, but because he himself had conjured him so I know his advice is comming from an encounter with Ose. So before I go and conjure Ose, Im gonna get some more practice on my rituals, build my connection with the Angels more. This conjuration has become very personal to me because if anyone can tell me why I feel so connected with Ose. . . . Its Ose.

Dont worry about it Enigmus, I didnt take what you said personally. I said what I said because I want the fact on how serious I do take this. BYM may not believe how serious I take this because of my actions, but I do, and Im sure in time he and anyone else who thinks that me still going through with Conjuring Ose is an act of how "not serious" I take these blessed and wonderfull rituals will discover how serious I really do take them.

For the next few weeks Im going to devote as much of my time as possible to practice and reconstructuring the pattern of my rituals. My next post will contain the results of the Conjuring of Ose. ((this time I will also have an experienced friend acting as a medium))

This post has been edited by GoeticPrince57: Feb 25 2006, 11:20 PM

GP57,
You're absolutely correct....I have the feeling that you weren't taking this seriously. Your obsessive thinking about Ose had triggered my 'maturity' alert. I have seen first hand the problems that can arise when dealing with these spirits; despite warnings from experienced magicians you will persist. In an exaspirating way that kind of stick-to-itness is laudable. I will cease and desist. Please remember a couple of things...
1. Do not try for a complete materialization first. This can and will prove to be too much of a drain on your life energies. Establish a working repoire before you go whole hog.
2. Always make sure that you have Banished well. Even after what may appear to be a failure these guys are Tricky and could snare you.
3. Make sure that you have some 'backup'. Alert a close friend that you're going to perform this operation. Let them look for obvious personality discrepancies afterwards.
4. No Pacts the first time. And whatever you do, don't step into the triangle during the operation.
There are more points but I don't think that now is the time. But...
5. Keep a complete journal of your operation and for personal notes for your next time.
I wish that I could dissuade you but there comes a time when the best thing is for the aspirant to go forth. Good luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smartass.gif)

2. Always make sure that you have Banished well. Even after what may appear to be a failure these guys are Tricky and could snare you.
3. Make sure that you have some 'backup'. Alert a close friend that you're going to perform this operation. Let them look for obvious personality discrepancies afterwards.
4. No Pacts the first time. And whatever you do, don't step into the triangle during the operation.
There are more points but I don't think that now is the time. But...
5. Keep a complete journal of your operation and for personal notes for your next time.
I wish that I could dissuade you but there comes a time when the best thing is for the aspirant to go forth. Good luck! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smartass.gif)
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I know this wasn't addressed for me, but I think this list is pretty helpful advise.
Thanks for this list and I will put number 3 to use in my operation that I am planing on doing. I have a friend who knows me pretty well, so...
But I have to ask what do you mean by pacts in number 4?

Hey all, I just want to take the time to thank you all for being patient. I will be conjuring the great Ose soon. I am still brushing up on my rituals, my connection with the angels. Expect my my next post within the next few weeks.