QUOTE(Nero @ Aug 7 2006, 07:32 PM)
Actually you would use the Z forumula. Regardie gives an example in his book the Golden Dawn. Although the cicero ritual tools book gives a better outline.
thanks for the answer; the z formula is fo the talismans or the consecration of the elmental tools? or both and if i can ask in which order:
LBRP......
thanks very much frater Nero