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uchih
post Feb 13 2007, 08:57 PM
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Is it absolutely necessary to go about using a circle when evoking angelic spirits, or those of spheres? I mean, why would Angelic spirits wish to harm you, are they not benevolent, kind and caring? Same for elementals or spirits belonging to spheres; what could they actually gain from busting your mind up?
I often wonder, why, these beasts - if they are as malicious as some of them appear to be - do not actively seek out people with interest in them (Given how fluid thought is in other planes) and again attack them. It's constantly been reinforced to me by my teachers or friends in the occult that the Goetia and necronomicon entitys - and all entitys - are out to 'get us' which seems incredibly childish to me, and unrealistic. So what's really the truth here?

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post Feb 13 2007, 11:05 PM
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Greetings 'uchih',

It not a bad idea to use a circle if the MS you are working from recommends one.

Flour or even chalk will work.

No worries if you don’t have the space to make a circle.

Just set out a nice sacrifice. Some angels such as the Solar Angels will be pissed if there is no offering.

The lesser spirits can be evoked without a circle as well. Again sacrifice and show respect and likely no worries.

Peace!

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post Feb 14 2007, 12:53 AM
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hello brother edunpanna..i have a question to ask of you..i keep hearing alot about solar angels but i havent been able to find a proper source on what solar angels are and how they differ from the other angels.would you mind explaining who they are..thanks..

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post Feb 14 2007, 01:19 AM
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Greetings 'OmNamaShivaya',

From the Greater Key or Key Of Solomon the king.

This is my favorite version.

http://www.amazon.com/Key-Solomon-King-Cla...ie=UTF8&s=books

Solar Angels or Sun angels are very prideful. They are quick to take offense.

The Pentacles of the Sun are wonderful amulets. They help in Healing, Music, Divination, etc. You just have to be extra respectful with them.

Peace!

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post Feb 14 2007, 09:46 AM
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Hi uchih

Circles can be used for protection or to focus energies. It really depends on the entities -- and more importantly, ON YOU. You do whatever gives you the most faith in the outcome. Since I work empty hand (and heavily influenced by Tantric Tibetan Buddhism) I never use circles (even though in Tibetan magick arts they honor the four kings of the four directions, the elements are all different (for example, earth is not north!) but I'm very comfortable with my own sacred space (so to speak). If you are working a specific style, it's always best to follow the proven methods first. If you've never encountered these entities, definitely a good idea to use the recommended methods (and it puts you in the right frame of mind, adding to the focus of your subconscious mind). But for me, I have total and utter (unwavering) confidence in my own empty-handed methods. (In my case, no circles, no tools, sometimes a tarot deck, that's about it). It works for me. But what works for you only you can decide (Take this all with a bucket of salt, because I'm a Chaote, so I use what works, then discard it the next time...) Circle is a very sacred shape in all traditions. Visualizing a circle is usually just fine, which allows you to make do in any size space. Confidence in your own abilities and the methods you're using is the true key.

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