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 Q's regarding The Creation of Elementaries
sleepyman
post Jul 3 2005, 03:49 PM
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Greetings everyone,

First of all, Thanks to "Bym" for letting me know about such a great book, "Initiation into Hermitics" by Franz Bardon. I did couple of exercises describe in the book that work very well. But when it comes to elementaries (Method 2 on page 200) there were few things that were confusing.--------------------First the author says, after the creation of clay figure insert a nail from the head to make a hollow space, put a cotton wad into it, then fluid condenser. If the magician is creating the elementary for his own purpose, he must use his own organic prime matter, then seal it with Beeswax OR a burning candle wax. Later in the book he talked about the fluid condenser. Now what doesn't make sense is: do I need to put cotton wad then my organic prime matter and seal it OR first cotton wad then fluid condenser and at the end organic prime mater then seal it?
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In the same method the author said, if a magician is doing out of body projection and another human touch his body the magician can die immediately. And it's exactly same with the created entities. So my next question is: when you do the creation of the entity, you holding it in your left hand to giving it life through your right hand by using Akasha light and breathing on the entity naval area. Should the magician let the entity go for his mission right away then hide it some where OR first hide it then through imagination let him go whatever he's created for?
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When the magician do a creation of an entity, he give him the mission, energy, talent (how to perfom the job), also he let the entity know the duration of his life and select the day, hour, minute and the method of the entity death; but how do you know that the entity will be back before his chosen time beacuse you can't touch the entity (clay figure) while his astral body is not in the clay body? (to avoid the magical "backlash")
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When you take the life of the entity, you grab it in your left hand, and imagine the Akasha light in your right hand and project the Akasha light into the heart of the clay figure and feel his breath is ceasing, then through imagination evaporates it's mental body and then astral body. the Question here is; the magician give the entity his own mental power why should he/she give it to the universe?

I deeply appreciate for you time to answer my questions.

Thanks!

---------------------------------------------Note:---------------------------------------- Do not answer these question if you not familiar with this method OR if you are new to this kind of work OR using someother author book. I would like these questions to be answered by "Bym" OR somebody who is following "Initiation into Hermitics" and have expertise in the subject matter.

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post Jul 4 2005, 09:53 AM
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Greetings Sleepyman!
There are a few people here that have read Bardon and fewer still who've had the patience to follow his methods precisely....but rather fall back on authors like Carroll or Hines etc. which have gathered together the innate principles of the method and distilled them down to be 'user friendly' and throwing out the authors original morality and 'dogma'....which can be unfortunate, at times, as these principles have their own lessons...but I digress.
Question One:
Create the fluid condenser. Add your blood/mumiae. Saturate the cotton wool with the fluid mixture. Seal the vessel. Note: You needn't use cotton wool but could use parchment that has the intent drawn on it with the condenser, OR, saturate the parchment with condenser, let dry thoroughly, draw your intent/sigil with ink-or-condenser. Place parchment into the hollow that would hold the wool.
Note: You may not wish to create a material form for these exercises.... But, the reason for doing so firmly entrenches the creation in the mind of the magician. I find that the physical creation also helps in the materializing of the entity created...much more on this at another time...
Question Two:
Bardon was of an era that was steeped in older Theosophic Ideas....The idea that someone could suffer harm by being touched was speaking about trance mediums when they are exuding 'ectoplasm' or nephesh material. The subsequent shock to the system can be lethal at the extremes to mildly jarring. A pointed psychic attack upon a projecting person could conceivably disrupt the silver cord. Usually the worse thing that can happen if one is touched or jarred whilst projecting is an uncomfortable 'recall' to the body...resulting in a heavy adrenaline rush, aches and pains and a headache... Your entity vessel shouldn't be touched by anyone (but you) is because their energy(ies) can disrupt the delicate forces making up your construct. It won't cause the entity to die but it can cause a backlash that will 'hurt'/'affect' you....remember that by making this construct you have created a material link to yourself. Note: This is why modern authors prefer to make the entity by mental energy alone...as this does away with the sympathetic material link.
Question Three:
This is basically answered in #2 but you must realize that the entity is 'yours' and you must call it back. You needn't give it an end date but rather make it so that its demise will coincide with the performing of its task. You may handle the clay?whatever creation whenever you wish to see what it is doing or how far has it progressed in its task. You may call it to you and integrate its thoughts/findings to you directly or you may use the material link to see what it sees at any given time. Your touch will not destrot the entity! It is part of you.!!!!!
Question Four:
I would absorb the essence in toto if the entity was created from my energy(ies). This may not be the case however. After absorbing the knowledge that you require from the entity, scatter or dissolve the energies back to where you drew them from. Its like cremation. In fact, if you use a parchment instead of the wool this can be actualized by burning the parchment. The mental/astral components of the entity were constructed by you and must be destroyed/dissolved by you. In modern servitor creation, quite often, the astral/mental thoughtforms are not destroyed and left to slowly fade away......but they don't always do that. They can, if conditions are right, find a host to garner energy and become parasitical astral lifgeforms that clutter up the lower astral. They can also have the potential to grow and become a much larger nuissance! Clean up after yourselves!

I hope that I haven't confused the issues. There are many different approaches to the Creation of Elementaries (Servitors). Remember the few basic laws of magic and some good common sense. Keep your lab/workspace in whatever passes for order in your world and Happy Trails! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wizard.gif)


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post Jul 7 2005, 12:22 PM
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Hi bym,

Thanks Bym for the answer. The stuff I misunderstood, now make perfect sense.
The only question I have now is about the YELLOW CLAY. I checked at the arts and craft store. They have already prepared clay in bock form ready to use. I didn't find any powder form clay. If I buy the prepared clay, is it mixable with the beeswax? (The label says, the clay is prepared with some kind of oil.)

Thanks man.

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post Jul 7 2005, 12:32 PM
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Greetings!
You could use just beeswax, regular parafin or clay! The use of beeswax exclusively can be expensive! Use regular parafin or just modeling clay. I've even used Plastacene (artificial modeling clay)! I suppose you could use papier mache' also! If I want to create a Longlived elementary I have also used quartz crystals (Herkimer diamonds) as a power matrix. Actually, one could conceivably use any crystal depending on the constructs purpose! Jeez! At this rate we'll be having you create a Golem! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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