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 Which name of marduk to use?, For a love spell from the nec. spellbook
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post Nov 10 2005, 10:27 PM
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Hello everyone, this is my first post on this board.I've been reading about the occult for about a year now, but just started actually attempting to practice now.I must also tell ashnook I have the deepest respect for you, and your site. I have been reading your advice on the necronomicon since I first discovered occult forums, and now on this forum.I have a few questions on the necronomicon spellbook, and my deepest apoligies if these already have been asked,but I honestly couldnt find the information I seek.Which of the names of marduk should be used for a love spell?The book mentions love spells but none of the names explicitly say they are intended for that purpose.Secondly, it says that you can perform the ritual described in the book for three consecutive nights,is this beneficial to the spell? Also I fear I may not be able to draw the sigils well because of lack of artistic talent.Will the quality of the drawing make a diffrence?Or am I just being overly cautious? Thankyou in advance to anyone who helps me.

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post Nov 11 2005, 08:21 AM
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I am not to sure about one of the 50 being good for a love spell, lust and obsession but not love. If you want to use the Nec for that purpose I would look into Inanna as she would be over love and not Marduk.

Three days will help but is not neccessary. The times I have used the spell book I have never performed it more than once for it to work but obviously the more energy you put toward it the better your results.

As for the sigils, YES draw them as correctly as you can. That is very important. The Nec sigils are not that hard. Mostly straight lines as opposed to all those fancy curves of other grims like the goetia.



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post Nov 11 2005, 12:36 PM
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Thankyou very much for the valuable information nero.Could you please clarify to me exactly what you meant by the names being good for lust/obsession[and specifically which name is].

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post Nov 11 2005, 12:43 PM
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No particular one comes to mind. What I meant by the lust/obsession comment is that Love is a higher emotion mostly contained in the Rauch while the Nec seems to deal only with the lower id within the Nephesh. IMHO of course...



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post Nov 11 2005, 02:41 PM
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Thankyou for all the information you've given me so far.The specific purpose im asking this is that im trying to figure out a way to use the necronomicon to start a relationship again with the woman I love.She says she loves me too, it is other circumstances thats keeping her from being in a relationship with me [and it isint a quarrel between us which is why I didnt think zisi was appropriate}.
I was wondering what entity could stir the emotions to make them greater then whats holding her back.It is far from lust/obsession, as I truly love this girl, and treat her as if she were a godess herself.We were very happy while we were together.When I looked through the Necronomicon spellbook none of the names looked like they could fufill that purpose.I was thinking maybe Barashakushu.I tried looking into Inanna but I dont think the girl im refering to likes apples, and it would look very strange to randomly give her one haha.Also I dont think at my level of magickal experiance I can successfully evoke Inanna.I am planning on learning and growing and becoming very skilled but I feel this needs to be done rather quickly, while her feelings for me are still there and fresh.any suggestions you can give me?

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post Nov 11 2005, 09:10 PM
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Greetings Virgil!
Have you considered not using 'magick' for love? Love spells invariably work...on the user! Don't sell yourself short! Self-confidence and a positive outlook are far more appealing than something contrived through extra-human help. IMHO, of course. And no disrespect toward you and your situation. I wish you luck! You already have what you need for a loving relationship. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


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post Nov 12 2005, 12:44 PM
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How about a non magical advice? First, gain back her respect, then her trust, act like a friend as if you have no other intention, be unpredictable, close in and somehow make her dependent on you and -most importantly - entice romantic feelings, when she's hooked "as a close friend", withdraw, date others, be coveted by others, and she'll be the one who'll beg you to return to you. Good books on the subject: the art of seduction by robert greene, the prince by machiavelli along with authors like david deAngelo, and ross jeffries.


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QUOTE(| Kinjo @ Nov 12 2005, 02:44 PM) *
How about a non magical advice? First, gain back her respect, then her trust, act like a friend as if you have no other intention, be unpredictable, close in and somehow make her dependent on you and -most importantly - entice romantic feelings, when she's hooked "as a close friend", withdraw, date others, be coveted by others, and she'll be the one who'll beg you to return to you. Good books on the subject: the art of seduction by robert greene, the prince by machiavelli along with authors like david deAngelo, and ross jeffries.


I know that the pagan community generally frowns on love spells in public. What they do in private may be a little different. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/banana.gif) I can tell you the seals I used on my wife before I started dating her along with the love spell on page 111 pg 138 27th name HEGAL and pg 139 the 30th name GIL

If you want to do something in the spiritual realm towards winning someones courtship then go ahead. Just be sure that you also follow through in the physical. Go get her! However if she is obviously not interested in you then do not waste your time with love spells. Find another. There will be many.

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post May 1 2006, 07:15 AM
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QUOTE(smasher666 @ Apr 20 2006, 11:17 PM) *
I know that the pagan community generally frowns on love spells in public. What they do in private may be a little different. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/banana.gif) I can tell you the seals I used on my wife before I started dating her along with the love spell on page 111 pg 138 27th name HEGAL and pg 139 the 30th name GIL

If you want to do something in the spiritual realm towards winning someones courtship then go ahead. Just be sure that you also follow through in the physical. Go get her!


How specifically do you ask to "get" a target girl who has some interest but not enough, using the Simon spell book, or expanded with circle/triangle/banishings/powerup rituals etc as I work with it?

I've played with both Hegal and Gil for generic work in this area but no results. I've done a targeted one, then result was opposite. What gives?

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[quote name='Grab' date='May 1 2006, 09:15 AM' post='14552']
[quote name='smasher666' post='14168' date='Apr 20 2006, 11:17 PM']
I know that the pagan community generally frowns on love spells in public. What they do in private may be a little different. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/banana.gif) I can tell you the seals I used on my wife before I started dating her along with the love spell on page 111 pg 138 27th name HEGAL and pg 139 the 30th name GIL

If you want to do something in the spiritual realm towards winning someones courtship then go ahead. Just be sure that you also follow through in the physical. Go get her!
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How specifically do you ask to "get" a target girl who has some interest but not enough, using the Simon spell book, or expanded with circle/triangle/banishings/powerup rituals etc as I work with it?

I've played with both Hegal and Gil for generic work in this area but no results. I've done a targeted one, then result was opposite. What gives?

Add me to yahoo messenger Grab and I will try to help.

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QUOTE(Virgil @ Nov 11 2005, 03:41 PM) *
Thankyou for all the information you've given me so far.The specific purpose im asking this is that im trying to figure out a way to use the necronomicon to start a relationship again with the woman I love.She says she loves me too, it is other circumstances thats keeping her from being in a relationship with me [and it isint a quarrel between us which is why I didnt think zisi was appropriate}.
I was wondering what entity could stir the emotions to make them greater then whats holding her back.It is far from lust/obsession, as I truly love this girl, and treat her as if she were a godess herself.We were very happy while we were together.When I looked through the Necronomicon spellbook none of the names looked like they could fufill that purpose.I was thinking maybe Barashakushu.I tried looking into Inanna but I dont think the girl im refering to likes apples, and it would look very strange to randomly give her one haha.Also I dont think at my level of magickal experiance I can successfully evoke Inanna.I am planning on learning and growing and becoming very skilled but I feel this needs to be done rather quickly, while her feelings for me are still there and fresh.any suggestions you can give me?




Virgil, If your still here I believe if you used Gil you might get the reaction your looking for. His is the thirtieth name of Marduk. the sigil is located on pg189 of the Nec. Something to consider though is in this sigil he is known as the Furnisher of Seed to make the women give birth. So if you'd like to start a family with this woman try this sigil. I realize a year has passed so you've probably moved on but if you still surf the forums let us know how your doing? Did you try any spell for your woman. If so did it work?

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