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nodeadcow
post Dec 25 2006, 07:18 PM
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Be Well All..This question might be in the wrong area so I do apologize.. and if this question has been asked in the past..just blame it on the new guy! In a concert setting regardless of the rock band playing (or does the band make a difference?) With all those loyal fans screaming at the top of their lungs A Great Amount of Energy is being expelled..and with such a large crowd focusing that energy flow, who is the absorber? Or What..

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post Dec 25 2006, 10:37 PM
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I would venture to guess it's the person performing on stage. I know a lot of performing artists and musicians, and a lot of them actively feed off that energy. I don't think it's something a lot of them are consciously aware of, but many times there is a distinct difference between their stage persona and their real one--many times the real one is very draining and hard to be around, because they're so used to sucking energy off people.


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post Dec 26 2006, 04:07 AM
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QUOTE(nodeadcow @ Dec 26 2006, 01:18 AM) *
Be Well All..This question might be in the wrong area so I do apologize.. and if this question has been asked in the past..just blame it on the new guy! In a concert setting regardless of the rock band playing (or does the band make a difference?) With all those loyal fans screaming at the top of their lungs A Great Amount of Energy is being expelled..and with such a large crowd focusing that energy flow, who is the absorber? Or What..


Greetings Nodeadcow,

Firstly I would say that, yes, the Rock Band (or other band) performing makes a difference as to where the energy is being directed, as well as to what type of energy is being built up.

Take for instance a Band like Black Sabbath when the singer Ozzy Osbourne was with them. Black Sabbath was known for their Occultic "Image", they often had songs depicting a Dark Figure in Black representing the Hidden side or Shadow Side of both the Band and the Fans that came to the concerts. The energy that was built up in these concerts was definitly, in my opinion, used to build the Character of both Band and Fans Occultic Hidden Sides, the energy fed each person in the audience, as well as the performers.

Then you could take a band like Pink Floyd with "The Wall." This movie set to their music depicted an Old School being broken out from by children of a modern age, basically centered around the life of one performer as actor musician. The music is somewhat surreal, almost like it is dreamlike, with tones and words that reflect an inner awakened child to the marvells of life around him/her.

I would say that each band builds a form of Egregor, or energy persona of the group and the music, both the Performers as well as Fans who listen to and feel the energy at these concerts form a symbiosis relationship in almost Cult Like Atmospheres. These fans will gather at these concerts like gathering adherents to a Religious Revival, they come to experience the music, not just hear it. The atmosphere at many concerts I have been to is intense, it is directed by themes in the musical arrangements, the energy of the people becomes a Living, Pulsing, and Addicting High, and thats what keeps them coming back.

I do not condemn any form of music or other performance using energy gathering and sharing, I think that it forms smaller pseudo-societies within a larger society though. I have been at college and hear two perfect strangers talking about music, they may be from separate ethnic backgrounds, yet when they find out they share the same musical interests and dedication they become the best of friends, as if they share some secret that only a lover of that particular music would understand. To me this is not wrong, yet this attraction to a charged energetic atmosphere found at these Live Concerts has been a common experience for a very long time.

What was the Old Saying, "Wine, Women, and Song,"
and now it is: "Sex, Drugs, and Rock & Roll."

Respectfully,
Helel (Joseph)

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post Dec 26 2006, 02:39 PM
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The Seven Laws of Psychic Energy
"These laws of energy are not alterable. These laws have always been and will always be in existence."

Sources: Silver Birch, White Eagle, Barbara Brennan, Leslie Flint, George Meek, Arthur Findlay, Anthony Borgia, George Meek, Sir Oliver Lodge, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, Sir William Crookes, Dr Robert Crookal, Sir William Barrett, the Rev C Drayton Thomas, Rev. Johannes Greber, Geraldine Cummings, Allan Kardec, Emmanuel Swedenborg, Dr Ian Stevenson, Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, Helen Greaves, Stainton Moses, et al.

Traditional secular scientists are now in agreement with the spiritual scientists and have conceded that all visible matter and invisible waves in the world can be reduced to 'vibrating energy'.

Below you will find laws of energy taken from information accumulated over the last few hundred years of documented human experience.

When I first started doing research into psychic phenomena I was looking for psychic laws. I found that although the laws existed by imputation, no one had hitherto formulated specific universal psychic, non-physical energy laws.

We have laws for everything - civil and criminal laws to conduct human behavior, laws of physics describing the forces which regulate the universe, laws of biology and other laws.

Accordingly, now for the very first time it is proposed that specific laws be codified about psychic energies - not just those which operate in the physical world but energies that also transcend the physical world.

Whilst more than half of the people of the world to-day will readily attest to the validity of these laws of energy it may take some decades for these laws to be universally accepted.

First Law of psychic energy:

All 'solid' objects are vibrating energy.

Unseen waves are also vibrating energy- sound, radio, electricity, light, television waves, microwaves, x-rays, gamma rays and psychic energy waves.

Second law of psychic energy:

The mind is an 'energy station' which creates transmits and receives energy.

The will (of the mind) can change the form of energy.
Thoughts and images, which are waves of energy, can be transmitted to and from human minds within the earthplane and to human and other entities in the afterlife in a process called telepathy.
Third law of psychic energy:

All living humans have a body made up of vibrationary energy which is a duplicate of the physical body and will survive physical death.

This vibrationary energy body invisible to physical eyes can change form but can never be destroyed and retains consciousness.
At the time of physical death, the duplicate body will have reached a certain vibrational level and will go to an energy sphere that can accommodate those vibrations.
Selfless spiritual service increases the vibrational energy of the duplicate body.
Fourth law of psychic energy:

The afterlife has different levels of energy which form different spheres according to the speed of vibration.

The faster the vibrations of a sphere the higher and more spiritually evolved are the entities which reside there.
Fifth law of psychic energy:

The more spiritually evolved a being is the brighter the energy of the aura.

Sixth law of psychic energy:

Slowing down the speed of the atomic vortices of the energy will result in materialisation. Speeding up the vortices will result in de-materialisation

Seventh law of psychic energy:

The Law of Cause and Effect: for every (energy) action there is a (an energy) reaction ie, energy is a 'boomerang' - the 'energy' you give out will inevitably return to you.


This last law actually applies to the concert you speak of. As long as non of the band members is a true Vampire. All of the laws will help guide a dreamer or energy worker in a proper direction.


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post Dec 26 2006, 04:16 PM
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i feed of the energy in concerts and partys. Its fun and gives a good boost of energy.
Although sometimes i just play with it. I saw tool live a while ago and i did not really feed directly of the energy.
I pushed out a lot of my own energy and then i mixed that with the rest, this way i could easily control the flow of the energy at the concert.
I then started spiralling it around and around, seeing how high density i could make it. Then i just let it go, out of respect for the fans and the band. Because i am a huge tool fan myself.

At other partys i absorb every excess energy floating around, but i do not suck on the people directly. I just take in the surplus of energy gathered in the air and suck it all in.
Its quite primal in nature, its kind of raw energy without a purpose anyway, if i didn't suck it in it would just drift away.
At times i have the feeling there are other "feeders" around, it feel like a tug of war then, each to suck in the most energy.
At the concert most of the energy is directed towards the band, out of the fans respect and enjoyment of their music. But at a normal party the energy is just from the excitement in the room, its not directed at the dj at all, since he is just playing music from other people and is not really recognized by the visitors. However the dj is in a good position if he was a psy vampire, overlooking the party.

I'm not really sure about all this though, it could be my imagination. But even if it is just mental mastrubation, just playing in my mind, its fun anyhow. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Dec 26 2006, 06:59 PM
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Energy raised by a group in general will sump into the surroundings to a radius of kilometer or so.
That means people near a ritual or a performance will be affected by it. As a practicing Rosicrucian for some years I used to join in radiation of effect to the surroundings which turned people nearby into virtual clones of AMORC members. A movie of "Jaws" caused a thoughtform of a shark. Pentecostalism can cause like a 50 foot depiction of Jesus. Pentecostalism also raises power up so you get more awake. Spiritualism drains power down so you have no initiative and want to sleep where people are tapping and drawing the power down. The actual force is a tiny fraction of a Volt but the human nervous system works at nanovolts so a hundredth of a Volt is plenty to make you more or less alert. The quakes I predict involve the residual potential of the Earth bunching up around rocks and twisting gravity sideways, at the same time the potential can cause weird effects on people near the focus. Permanent magnetism is temporarily cancelled. A flying saucer will crash as electromass disappears except near the quake site. Energy can be tapped from space in zpe motors. If we learned to do mentally a tapping of zpe the consequences could change the orbit of the Earth.
People with smaller skulls like Uri Geller can tap and focus group energies so presumably a helmet of quartz or Amethyst that is drawn to a small round cap or point at the top would enable one to draw power from many minds and bring it to a point. At the least it might be possible to blow something up start a fire or trigger any uncontrolled occurrence so an uninhabited region might be better to cope with whatever one stirs up. To get real results all the personnel need to focus on the same thing, a speaker on stage with a really attention getting gown covered in say Amethysts and wearing a conical cap of Quartz and maybe carrying a magnetized rod with a quartz ball at the end of it could be getting close... then we might find something that works really well. A pyramid with bronze hands holding a crystal ball appears to have possibilities to use as kind of a telephone booth. This research can take one into applications that will work for anybody and then the so called occult becomes just another consumer appliance.






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Be Well All..This question might be in the wrong area so I do apologize.. and if this question has been asked in the past..just blame it on the new guy! In a concert setting regardless of the rock band playing (or does the band make a difference?) With all those loyal fans screaming at the top of their lungs A Great Amount of Energy is being expelled..and with such a large crowd focusing that energy flow, who is the absorber? Or What..
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post Dec 27 2006, 02:44 PM
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They will work for anyone...And you dont need all the crap like the hats and amethyst and crystal or even a smaller head. Any of this can be focused as you wish and how you want. Group energy is individual energy. And all those items are mearly focus points the real "magic" comes from the user. You could just as easily breathe this energy in through your skin and nose and ears and eyes. Hell if you can feel the energy you can utilize it.


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