A Question About The Astral Options

hi everyone

i have read alot about astral travel but i'm missing something.

see there is a technology being researched and developed and what i could learn and find about it is is now being R&D for the milatary as a mean of harming others while that technology can be used to help in many many ways.

so i have been searching for a way to gain the knowleadge to develop, build and programme that technology and give that technology to people to help so i have searched this forum and could not find exactly what i was looking so my question is

can by using astral travel and the astral plane be a way to find the technological knowleadge to build and programme that technology.

like finding the blueprint of that technology or a manual of the technology that can well give me the knowleadge to build it and programme it.

see i dont want that technology to get rich i want it so it can help people o there is a spark of light in the dark world.

is there a good being entity that can give that knowleadge on the astral plain.

please i really need to know.

already thank and blessings to you all

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Look into remote viewing. Google the term and you should find a few leads to some good information - it's best to basically get all the perspective you can and go from there.

You could find that information in the astral, but you probably won't get the technical details. See, there are fewer manifestations of energy the closer to the 'core' of existence you get. Let's say there are ten thousand manifestations on the physical plane. On the next subtlest plane up, there are only 5,000. Next plane up, only 2,500, and so one (obviously those numbers are not exact...)

So, if you get that information from the astral plane, it's going to be in an astral format, i.e., energyA + energyB = EffectC, with no technical specifications of how you are supposed to make energies A and B interact to get that effect. Figuring out how to affect change on the physical plane is what science is all about. Get a degree in engineering and then use the Astral to direct your own research. Education really is a good thing, learning about science and technology won't taint your magick or anything, it'll actually probably make it more efficient and effective.

what is this technology? No offense, but unless you're already a well funded engineer yourself, even getting the technical details from remote viewing probably won't enable to you acquire the material, put it together right, etc....

Also, I think i end all of my responses to your posts this way, but if you have to ask this question, your not ready to apply the answer, even if it were step by step. Start with the basics, and stuff like this will become crystal clear, and effortless.

peace

This post has been edited by bym: Oct 10 2006, 06:21 AM

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i already learnt everything there is about this technology the technology is nano everything there is i already learnt i even made suggestions to some scientist and talked with them to get more info about the subject.

see for me learning is as easy as walking i dont know why it's always been this way and i can see it clear but all i want is like the blueprint to that technology and present it to scientist so they can work on it but it will be by my wishes else there is no deal so that way that technology can be used by good.

it all sounds maybe crazy to others but that's just my view point.most technology is first developed by military to it's a way to harm and i have always helped others but becouse my eyes wont let me do that anymore i need to find new ways to help and i have been doing that for the past three years.

so any help is welcome.

This post has been edited by bym: Oct 10 2006, 06:24 AM

i already learnt everything there is about this technology the technology is nano everything there is i already learnt i even made suggestions to some scientist and talked with them to get more info about the subject.

Okay... obviously everything isn't learnt. No offense, but if you already know everything about the subject, what do you hope to gain psyhically/magickally? Sometimes good ole fashioned research and developement is the next step.

see for me learning is as easy as walking i dont know why it's always been this way and i can see it clear but all i want is like the blueprint to that technology and present it to scientist so they can work on it but it will be by my wishes else there is no deal so that way that technology can be used by good.

First off, believe me when i say if you could pull blueprints out of your astral (couldn't resist), for nanotechnology or any sort of new invention, many of us here would be very rich people. If you're going to get blueprints from on high, then that's your personal issue with the gods, but not a regularly practiced skill that just any occultist can fill you in on. Secondly, no offense, but thinking that getting in on the first patent will keep any technology from being used strictly for good, is just naive. There are billions of people on the earth, and a great many of them are unscrupulous, and don't care who owns the patents on useful military technology.

it all sounds maybe crazy to others but that's just my view point.most technology is first developed by military to it's a way to harm and i have always helped others but becouse my eyes wont let me do that anymore i need to find new ways to help and i have been doing that for the past three years.
so any help is welcome.

Have you been reading anything in this forum? Nothing sounds crazy. Well, hang on, almost nothing, let's not get too inclusive.

I'm afraid it's just the way of the world for new technology to be used for negative ends. Until the world at large changes, maybe you should focus on developing a technology to defend against this other technology that you apparently already know all about. Certainly a positive end, and you're saving lives also - which is more than just developing the tech to be ripped off by the military, black marketeers, etc., will do for humanity.

Magick is a means of developement, expansion, and growth. It can 'get you things' like perhaps the idea, the concept, the direction, that you need, but you still have to put in the foot work. I've been doing magick to inspire a best-selling novel for years. You know what? I write a lot of good essays these days. I channel the inspiration to something that means something to me, cause the magick opened the door for me, but I never did get focused enough to write a book. It's not the magick's fault for letting me down, it's my own fault for not sticking to one of the million great ideas i've had. I cannot conjure a bestselling novel from thin air, any more than you can conjure blueprints for cutting edge technology from the astral. Again, i'm not saying it can't be done, but if it was easy, then everyone would be doing it. Hell i'm technically minded and love to solder and build stuff, and I spend half the day in the outer astral. I haven't seen any blueprints laying around.

You asked for advice, I laid out the realistic situation for you, and gave some pointers that will get you closer, though maybe not all the way, to your goal. If new technology is what you are looking for, develope remote viewing, and spy on other country's military R&D. Better yet, seek out ET life, and spy on them, although that could be more dangerous, who knows what they're capable of defending against as far as all that goes.

I hate to toot my own horn here, but if anyone disagrees and believes that it's totally possible and easy for - again no offense - a beginner to do, then please let us BOTH know; I for one am a man who could certainly do a lot with some patents.

peace

i'm not saying it's easy

and what i mean with the blueprints is not litteraly.

i'm not naive i know it's easy to steal or other means what i mean is if i'm the first to build then it can be used as a defence i'm already designing other technology's that can help but with nanotechnology it's a better way to protect and defend.

i'm not asking for blueprints but maybe there are entities on the astral realm that have the knowleadge to build the technology and are willing to share it.

that's what i'm asking and some advice for and if someone know a entitie that does have the knowleadge.

and i dont want to do this to get rich i dont even care about money and if there is money to gain it can easy be send to charity's and rebuilding projects.

If you don't mean blueprints litterally, then don't say blueprints, or at least put the word in quotes.

Go to the astral, state your cause, and call for any entity who can offer assistance. Test them, ask for their name, their element, their office. I suggest exploring the realm of mercury, mars, and jupiter.

Stop talking about money, no one is accusing you of greed. Lack of motivation maybe, but not greed. Talking about it highlights your attention to it. Whether or not you make any money off of it, no one here cares.

It gets back to what I said originally. I tried to explain in what manner the information will come to you, how you will need to look at it in order to interpret it. What you're asking now is the same question, and while I may have been the only one to give an answer to it, no one here as disagreed with my sentiment - because we've all had similar experiences, and we know that it works that way.

Entities in the astral work with technology that doesn't directly compare to 'earth' technology. They won't explain it in terms of what to put together with what. Personally, I think working with entities will limit what you can discover, but that's personal opinion, not cannon. It's easy enough to go into the astral, focus on the information you need, and let the currents there take you to where you need to go. Even for a beginner. Interpretation is the problem in most cases, not finding the information - the astral universe is holographic, all information in it exists at a single 'point' that isn't even a 'point' in the sense of space/time. The only thing that changes there is your context.

This is how all technology developes. Just because you don't take a proactive effort to go out into the subtle universe and collect the knowledge to make new technology, doesn't mean that's not where it comes from. All information is just information until it passes from the subtle universe into the material universe. People are mages, we use information to change our world, and it works the same for everyone, regardless to how they interpret their experience. Call it Blue, or call it Azul, it's still the frequency of light.

All the information you need to do this is here in these posts. Read over it again, take some time to think about it. If you don't do anything with the answers you get, how do you know you've got the answer or not?

peace

This post has been edited by Vagrant Dreamer: Oct 10 2006, 10:33 AM