Instant Defense?, What can I do against sudden attack? Options

Today something happened that caught me off guard. I was in a parking lot with my father, helping him with his shopping. He had a difficult operation recently and has trouble walking. That is why he parks close to the entrance of the mall.
When I put the bags into the car, a woman came up to me, chiding me for parking there. She did not even ask me anything, she just judged and attacked.

I explained that it was not my car and that my dad has had an operation and can't walk far, but she did not listen and shouted at me. I could not see anything unusual, but I felt her aggression and bad vibes. Her mother joined her, and they both started attacking me verbally. I've been in arguments before, and usually I stay calm, but this was not a normal argument. I've never felt that helpless and aggressive in my life, there was definitely some kind of psychic attack going on.

I'm not usually aggressive, but I felt very aggressive towards them. I didn't recognize myself any more because I'm normally stable and balanced and I don't let people get to me like that.
My father came and ended the argument by offering to leave. I had the strong impulse to stay between him and them because I somehow feared they could do something to him.
No, this definitely wasn't a normal argument.

When I was alone, I almost started crying, for no apparent reason. I used my instant magick trigger and visualized three rings of blue light around me, repeating the phrase "Thrice around the circle bound, evil sink into the ground" three times, only then did I manage to calm down.
I do energy shielding regularly, but this time it was like the shield wasn't there at all. I'll definitely work on my shielding technique (I've already discovered the shielding thread in this forum), but:

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/help.gif) Is there any instant magick I can do against this kind of attack? Anything I could have done right there, in the parking lot, other than running away?

Laugh. Laugh at the capacity for so-called "adults" to act like children. Throwing a hissy fit because they didn't get their way? They should be ashamed of themselves.

Laugh. Laugh at the capacity for so-called "adults" to act like children. Throwing a hissy fit because they didn't get their way? They should be ashamed of themselves.

Probably the best, and most "magical" advice you could be given on the matter, Charlie.

Though doing so externally may provoke the situation, at least internal bemusement is your best 'shield'. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Another good technique I have used on numerous occasions is a simple "mirror" cast; invision your body being surrounded by mirrors, reflective side out, and throwing that negative energy back at the source. It sounds kind of juvenile, but it works real peachy like.

You can also "command" them to stop through visualising yourself standing in front of them and "planting" the thought in their head that they should just drop it, and move on. Some people don't like that solution much due to the mind control aspect, but if it's with intentions of keeping the ground safer and less arguementive, then by all means.

I thoroughly disagree with DollHouseKitty. One should not adopt the attittude of tit for tat because it smacks of immaturity. Instead I suggest that take a pan of salt water & throw in it all the grabbed negative energy that you can garner & collect through sweeping your various chakras. Evil salt water should then be thrown into sea or a deserted place to be absorbed by the mighty sun. Also beam healing energy to the perpetrators.

If I were Charlie I would seize the opportunity to vent my own accumulated anger and stress towards the "attackers". It would be an opportunity to show anger when it feels just or harmless concerning repercussions.

Death before dishonour.


-thief

durki - I suspect that you erroneously interpreted DollHouseKitty's use of the term "mirroring" to mean "tit for tat".

A reflective technique isn't the same as "tit for tat", because reflecting the negative energy of an attacker isn't the same as attacking an attacker.


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charlie - your instant magick trigger seemed to work just fine. I suggest using it much sooner during such an attack.

OOHHHH..I despise people like that. I take it that you're rather young? Or even that you look young? People like that feed off other people's anger. They thrive on finding people that can be easily upset and they move in for the kill so to speak. You, being young, looked like an easy target. A normal person would have asked why you had parked there or, simply minded their own business.

They also thrive on negativity. They prowl around looking for something to become angry at and nothing makes them happy, and if you attempt to make them happy, they will become angrier. The more you feed them, the stronger they get and the more they expect. In truth, what you experienced is nothing short of energy theft. Though, in a small burst like that, they tend to be overwhelming and overbearing, but after a while they become simply annoying. Their energy is often spent quickly, being pulled through from anger.

Sad to say, you've become nothing more than a victim to them. They work in packs obviously, feeling that arguing with you, accusing you, and intimidating you will make them feel better. They're just angry and lonely people.

The best way to defend yourself against people like that is to be able to spot them. If someone asserts themselves like that again, the best way is to stay calm. Smile if needs be, maybe laugh. Laughter is the best way to diminish magick and power. Giving into anger is usually tempting, but if you feel you are in that situation again...walk away. DO NOT say anything. They thrive off of the back and forth communication. If you simply walk away, leaving them midsentence, you've stunned them. You've denied them a great source of energy and you have made them look rediculous. You don't need to defend yourself against people like that, they don't care what you have to say. If they attack you, then they're in the wrong and will go to jail.

If you're able to do that successfully enough, you'll find you won't have to protect yourself magically. You'll have been able to simply ward off energy thieves.

This post has been edited by Angalor: May 27 2006, 01:15 PM

This type of behavior has been happening regularly, since the Katrina Hurricane. Folks are very stressed, fuses are short. They're living in cramped trailers while on a list for a contractor that's a six to nine month wait.
I'm in the same predicament and have accepted the situation. But when my path crosses one of these "ranting' people that Charlie described, I flair my aura and just look at them. It works nine times out of ten in getting them to cross their arms and walk away.

This post has been edited by Sojrn: May 28 2006, 09:49 AM

Charlie, they're animals in a zoo....listen to me dear this is what you do:

Let them prattle and bark all they want(like animals). Do not listen to what they say, imagine them like barking puppies, then...just laugh at them, trust me its really funny once you think about it. "chickens in a farm making noise".... "babies crying for attention". All you do is stare them straight in their eyes and grin, do NOT say a word, act as if they're your property, merely toys for your bliss. Then proceed to what you were doing(they're now only background crows making no more than prattling noise).

Note: They've just wasted their time whilst you found it enjoyably fun....perhaps...in a morbid way dare I say ;P

Try this and see how you feel.

This post has been edited by DeathStalker: Sep 19 2006, 01:17 AM

This sort of experience is very useful. No one really understands how different it is to perform magick in controlled ritual settings compared to stressful real time encounters. Shielding which seems second nature is suddenly an unfamiliar alien act when actually under attack.

If you find yourself in a similar situation and can't perform your normal protective rituals, you can project a pentagram at your assailant and if you are more equilibrated that can disrupt their concentration.

Practice, practice, practice.

motsie

Maybe i'm just a bleeding heart magician, but I have been in a few situations like this and found sympathetic compassion to be the most permanent solution, and it often results in a mutual benefit as well. Those people have been offended because they are looking for excuses to garner energy from other people, but they need an en.

They are hungry, even though they don't know it. When this sort of thing happens, I suggest showing utter compassion, and calling them out directly on their tactics. "Why do you feel the need to intimidate me?" 100% of the time, they will stop in their tracks and reconsider what they're doing.

I have called out a would-be mugger like this, and even he backed off and was even ashamed! No one expects to be called out. Laughing is good, but will ultimately instigate more trouble, in most cases. Turning and walking away can be a bad idea as well - that was my solution in school, and normally the reaction is to come at your back. Don't turn your back on an angry animal, that is often a painful mistake. Recognize that anyone putting out bad energy like that is just trying to get fed, rid themselves of their own pain by putting it on you, like that ever worked. By taking control of the energy in the situation through calling out the tactic, you create an instantly neutral energy setting which can be steered towards a positive end that will be a blessing on both of you, in the very real and palpable sense. You'll probably also learn a valuable lesson.

The best way to deal with any magick is to employ a similar mgick. In this case, the related magick is the magick of words. Using visualization is only going to meet part of the problem, and honestly those techniques only work if you have full command of an energy beyond yourself. Just visualizing, I hate to say, is rather impotent. it's just imagery unless you can give it power, and I bet you'll find it difficult to give anything when you're in the midst of psychic combat. Ritual is for undisturbed moments of inner quiet.

Practical vs. Practical, Magickal vs. Magickal. The magick of visualization is subtle, the magick of words is direct and overt. It's like bringing a slow poison in a cup of tea to a sword fight...

peace

Vagrant,

You may be right about the practicality of assaulting women in parking lots, however in a situation where a party is directing energy at you in a focused manner, good defense and a strong counterattack will get you further than trying to shame an interloper into acting "right". It would be lovely if reason could prevail, but one needs to be prepared in case words fail. The only way to be prepared to mount a magical defense and offense is to make the process second nature. In real time, there often isn't the luxury of a quiet ritual space.

I was very surprised at how difficult it is to pull shielding out of my ass while being attacked. It gave me a new appreciation of the degree of preparedness that is necessary.

motsie

Repeat after me. " If you do not back up out of my goddamn face, I will split your f***in head open with my tire iron". Give her the coldest, most murderous stare you can muster as you say this, allowing all of your darkest emotions to set in your eyes. If you are empathic/telepathic at all, send her visions of you beating her to death, painfully and bloodily. You'll be amazed at how quickly she turns silent and leaves. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Vagrant,

You may be right about the practicality of assaulting women in parking lots, however in a situation where a party is directing energy at you in a focused manner, good defense and a strong counterattack will get you further than trying to shame an interloper into acting "right". It would be lovely if reason could prevail, but one needs to be prepared in case words fail. The only way to be prepared to mount a magical defense and offense is to make the process second nature. In real time, there often isn't the luxury of a quiet ritual space.

I was very surprised at how difficult it is to pull shielding out of my ass while being attacked. It gave me a new appreciation of the degree of preparedness that is necessary.

motsie

No offense, but you obviously haven't given it a try before. The aim isn't to shame anyone. Open yourself up, through compassion, to a higher source of energy, and you gain control of the exchange, simple as that. You have the high ground, so to speak, at that point. Every single time I have been in situations like that (and I live in New York, I get into some sort of exchange, of varying degrees of intensity, a couple of times a week.)

Shielding is all good and well on the astral, where you have inter-dimensional non-corporeal beings doing things you can't prepare for, but it's a method of cutting yourself off from the flow of energy between two people.

I'm simply offering a method in a different vein. You say counterattack and defense will get your further, i disagree. i think if you bring something away from the exchange, and leave something important behind, and make an impact on the world around you, you - as well as the rest of the human race - all get to move forward as one happy family.

Just because shielding and defense sounds cooler, doesn't mean it's better.

peace

Top yourself up with pink energy? Remeniss that situation whilst meditating, thinking of them and the emotional grief they caused you, form a ball of energy (eyes shut works best) between your hands and color it pink, absorb it into your solar plexus and heart chakras to feed it to a small child in thought (not actually a person) that will grow from this.

Try looking around the area with your mind to see if there were any other outside negative influences. The slightes feeling of something a foot and you can hopefully find your attacker.

This post has been edited by Coffee: Oct 5 2006, 03:41 AM

Ah Coffee, I actually used this pink energy one some weeks back, I had never heard of it before, it just came to me whilst I was with a negative person, so I looked away from them and almost watched it happen. No idea where it came from but I warded off the thing I was feeling quite well.

The above message from me will be ok for after the incident but hope this helps...

http://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?showtopic=3227

This post has been edited by Coffee: Oct 7 2006, 11:51 AM

All I can say is bind then attack! If under attack one MUST retaliate or the attacker will gain power over thee and ultimatly win. In real time, such as the situation in the parking lot---I like the method of looking the idiot square in the eyes while visualizing, I like this--LOL---beating then to a pulp w/ a tire iron--LOL. If your will is true and intention clear, they will likely turn away in realization they could very well be in trouble. If they persist, then proceed w/ the tire iron..........LOL