What Is This Options

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/insane.gif) well i dont even know where to start. i think this goes here since its kinda chaotic lol.
i have been wondering about the power of the spoken word. i have noticed when i really want something done and i just shout it out... in many cases it happens.
ive been wondering why this kind of things happen is it demons/spirits listening or is the cosmos just reacting?
like when you poke a amöba whit a stick it moves lol... (wierd comaparison the smallest living organism whit cosmos lol) or am i just a "great" ( (IMG:style_emoticons/default/baby.gif) ) magician LOL

maybe a example is in place i have been using someone elses W-lan and the connection used to be really really bad mostly off....
well i was trying to fix the antenna better didnt get it done so i shouted.
god damm ¤&%¤"/"¤%¤"&%%&/"¤ this better work now or i,ll burn it in hell.
and just threw the antenna wire out the window and now i have perfect connection.
in the past when i used to chase girls i found someone i wanted just went home and stated a whole night she is mine the next time i saw her she was all over me...
same whit money or other material things... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hmm.gif)

just one thing it hasent worked on (or person) and by the way the money thing i just used it to get what i truly need and still do...

well this was complicated enough and long enough (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sorry_2.gif) any SMART or NOT smart answears will be apprciated (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wizard.gif)

Don't know what it is, but I've had similar results. I just concentrate on the intent without
making a sigil for it and it usually happens. I don't think it has anything to do with spirits,
more like you give the world a nugde in the right direction, I guess.

I'd like to hear more experiences about this technique though. I haven't really perfected mine yet.

well i never really concentrate on what i want i just let it out in a emotion.. works uysually best when used in a unhadelable rage state

and oh i have noticed my dog (yes my dog) can do it to wich is quite funny... i playfully call her the queen of jeppis (jeppis=the town i live in)

This post has been edited by jlx: Nov 4 2007, 11:35 PM

but i have noticed that one should really watch them words because i have seen words do the most horrible things

Try this the next time you are angry; really focus on some intent that's completely unrelated to the reason why you're angry.
I've had my best and clearest results this way. Sort of use the force your anger creates inside you and change it to a
driving force to make the intent happen. (This will also calm you down, so no harm done trying). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/00000064.gif)

This post has been edited by ComaOfLoss: Nov 5 2007, 12:10 AM

Try this the next time you are angry; really focus on some intent that's completely unrelated to the reason why you're angry.
I've had my best and clearest results this way. Sort of use the force your anger creates inside you and change it to a
driving force to make the intent happen. (This will also calm you down, so no harm done trying). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/00000064.gif)

well you might have to wait long for results i RARLEY get angry well only when technology dosent work lol

Well, in truth, every magickal tradition says this should work, not terribly well, but well.

Think that for a spell, you are adding more symbolism, and focus. Here you are forcing it out on raw emotion.

This also shows my lack of discipline as I usually shout things like “F@#$ me!!!” or something else that makes the situation worse.

Well, in truth, every magickal tradition says this should work, not terribly well, but well.

Think that for a spell, you are adding more symbolism, and focus. Here you are forcing it out on raw emotion.

This also shows my lack of discipline as I usually shout things like “F@#$ me!!!” or something else that makes the situation worse.

Yeah, I usually use some sort of focus. Mostly an image of a flaming hexagram in front of me.

(And sorry for the finnish):

JLX, huomasin juuri että säkin olet Suomesta. Mukava huomata etten ole ainoa huuhaahan hurahtanut finski. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wizard.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/haha.gif)

This post has been edited by ComaOfLoss: Nov 5 2007, 05:07 AM

Yeah, I usually use some sort of focus. Mostly an image of a flaming hexagram in front of me.

(And sorry for the finnish):

JLX, huomasin juuri että säkin olet Suomesta. Mukava huomata etten ole ainoa huuhaahan hurahtanut finski. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wizard.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/haha.gif)

perinteinen SUOMI FINLAND PERKELE oli nyt paikallaan (tunnetuin suomenkielen lausunto ulkomailla)

Actually I think it works like a sigil
You focus on you're intent and after just chase the idea from you're mind and.. ta taaa you're wich comes true
That's why most of the pessimists I know that don't believe in anything achieve much more success then the optimists or just the guy who really needs it but can't let go of this wish
I know it's quite cynic but you observe it
Now about emotions, well these are the language of the "heart" so there must be an effect on the physical realm but how? I don't know but it's quite evident that when you hex somebody, pure hate or anger will be used like an amplifier for the spell besides the demons or other means you will use
I've assister to an example when a guy became blinded by rage and well with just a basic psionic technic achieved a car crash, someone fall down the stairs and broks his arm, and other very frightening stuff so basically in chaos magick it seems that will is the key for many effects. combined with raw emotions this becomes even faster if you only can let go...
PS: the guy landed in an asylium and there he could do nothing but forget about his spells and it worked
Beware from emotions

Actually I think it works like a sigil
You focus on you're intent and after just chase the idea from you're mind and.. ta taaa you're wich comes true
That's why most of the pessimists I know that don't believe in anything achieve much more success then the optimists or just the guy who really needs it but can't let go of this wish
I know it's quite cynic but you observe it
Now about emotions, well these are the language of the "heart" so there must be an effect on the physical realm but how? I don't know but it's quite evident that when you hex somebody, pure hate or anger will be used like an amplifier for the spell besides the demons or other means you will use
I've assister to an example when a guy became blinded by rage and well with just a basic psionic technic achieved a car crash, someone fall down the stairs and broks his arm, and other very frightening stuff so basically in chaos magick it seems that will is the key for many effects. combined with raw emotions this becomes even faster if you only can let go...
PS: the guy landed in an asylium and there he could do nothing but forget about his spells and it worked
Beware from emotions

WOW I FINALLY UNDERSTAND.... sorry for the caps but this is just what magic is! simply employing life force/energy by STRUCTURAL LINKS. energy of any kind can and will flow two of the same thing. ok that sounded wierd i know well two diffrent things aren't the same right? as in a battery is diffrent from another in some chemical way but an mental image of it is the same right?so if you could create a exact copy i mean EXACT it would be the same thing thou in two places lol multi present well when you shout out something whit the mental clear image you create a structual link for life energy to flow and by your emotion and tought you have programmed that energy to do just that what you are wanting to do simple enough? a true structual link is only found in quantum physics but still that kinda gives an good idea if one quant is observed or changed the other will do the same any ways its WAYYYY to complicated to go into quantum physics thou i belive thats exactly what we are dealing whit since thats the way a structual link would have to work thou not in micro but in macro size thou a thought would be alot smaller then micro or quantum so where are we? below the know areas of physics?.... i think so the elemental force we call LIFE!
now i am going to study this hard and well..! i have some ideas how to convert both ceremonial magic and other forms to pure thought magic.

This post has been edited by jlx: Nov 13 2007, 02:32 PM

Remember to share your findings! This sounds pretty interesting and very close to
what I'm doing.

@ jlx:

I think you have the right idea there. You are on a dangerous ledge as well.

“You create your reality” I think you are getting this one in a profound way.

“It is important to include others in your reality.” It is too easy to end up outside of the reality of others, and that is a poor existence.

“Secrecy is part of Magick” It is important to keep your core path a secret, mostly so that things that you can do, do not become impossible because others say so, but also so you can change reality from moment to moment.

However, share the technical ways you do things with like minded peers so you can learn and grow by learning from them.

I know what I said about sharing and secrecy seem like opposites, but it is not. It is important remember that society (what I like to call our tribe) has a gravity all it’s own. We are defined by our peers and those around us, they can accept gradual change, but sudden change is harder, and it will try to shove us back to it’s definition of us.

This is good and bad, those people bring us up to their expectations, but also put us down to their expectations. So it is great till 13~17 or so, lousy when we are trying become individuals trying to embody our own reality.

Balancing everything is always a trial, but with practice it becomes easy, as our reality, becomes the reality of us for our tribe.

My tribe expects me to do odd and crazy things, and sometimes be really odd, but always come back, a little changed. But also more like myself then before, like as if there was a missing piece of a puzzle that I filled in.
My tribe at this point expects me to create my reality.




Totally separately:

Personal pet peeve; Please do not think of this as quantum physics. It is not the same…there are similarities but there are also similarities between a basketball and the planet mars.

Another tip, for better legibility on all forums: try to split up really sentences or paragraphs. It makes it easier to read what you are writing. It hides my bad grammar better as well. Capitalizing the first word in a sentence helps as well.

But on a computer, splitting up every few lines is a good thing.

Don't know what it is, but I've had similar results. I just concentrate on the intent without
making a sigil for it and it usually happens.

It's called "The Law of Attraction" (You manifest whatever you think about ... Positive AND Negative.)


My mother does this all the time (A dyed-in-the-wool Republican Southern Baptist, she's about as non-magickal as they come. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/Symbols_1911.gif) ) A while back, she had this noisy floor fan. She wanted something quieter (She went to Wal-Mart, Circuit City, and Best Buy ... nothing.)

What should appear in the dumpster room of our condo complex but a working floor fan ... and a QUIET one at that! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shok.gif)


Believe me, it works! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/secret.gif)

This post has been edited by The Sorceress: Nov 14 2007, 06:00 PM