Cemetaries, What have you noticed/experienced? Options

A friend and I like to hang out at cemetaries to feel the various energies and what not.

Well, we ran across this really old one, actually it was 2 cemetaries seperated only by about a 10 foot wide strip of grass.

One of them was a Catholic Cemetary, and the other was a Methodist Cemetary. Each one had a seperate gate, though you could walk from one to another inside the cemetary.

Anyhow, we entered on the Catholic side, I didnt notice anything odd. Then, I shifted consciousness a bit and blamo. The posts that mark the entrance gate had guardians. I was flabbergasted. I couldn't actually see them, but I could see the energies radiating from the cement blocks upon which they sat. I'd never seen anything like that at a cemetary before. We decided to see just what they were about so we walked across the barrier from cemetary to street. Once in the center I stopped. I wanted them to know that I knew they were there, I wanted to acknowledge their presence.

For someone that didn't have my shielding abilities, I might have been a bit worried as the affects from doing so could have been very traumatic for some. It was as if they were trying to attack the shield I have up at all times. There was a distinct pressure not only on my head, but also on my chest as if being crushed.

It's a good thing I shield naturally and always have , because if this would have continued without me knowing what was going on, the consequences could have been dire the way things were going. I seldom have to strengthen my shield, well this was one time in which I had to do so. As soon as I did the pressure let up but did not halt.

We decided to try the other gate on the Methodist side of the cemetary. Nothing. It was totally dead. We walked back to the Catholic side and they little buggers tried again...

We decided to leave, after getting into a discussion about the many cemetaries that we'd been to and seen and felt nothing of the sort before. So we headed off to the car and a sense of being followed as well as the feeling of pressure continued. It lasted for 5 minutes while we were driving away and we commented on it to eachother. Then it was simply gone. No lessening, just gone.

Needless to say it was the oddest cemetary experience that I've had in the numerous years that I've been hanging out at cemetaries. I usually go to relax and think, as well as observe. Usually, there are much different energies associated with some of the specific residents at some cemetaries. Ive never noticed guardians before. This was an entirely new experience for me and my cemetary dwelling habits.

One thing I should say is that we didn't bother trying to actually communicate with them. We just let them do their thing, as we did ours.

Have any of you noticed things like this before? Are they there from the consecration of the cemetary as guardians? Or did they just choose to be there and guard it? I suppose it could have been a combination of both. What are some of your cemetary experiences?

*****Edited to correct spelling & punctuation errors (if there are any left, SUFFER)*****

This post has been edited by Babalon_Reborn: May 9 2005, 06:08 PM

Greetings Babs!
We've not met, yet the cemetary is perhaps very apropos!
I was thinking (this doesn't happen too often, LOL) and maybe someone of importance in the clergy was interred there or maybe the local priest is a decent magician!?? It's been my experience to not encounter guardians at all save for the little ones left lurking near specific burials leftover from zealous relatives... All the major guardian types show up at the church during services. The strongest guardians have also been not ones brought by the 'devout' but by other mages! Oh, well....it's getting so's a guy can't get no peace with a walk at night anymore~ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Greetings Babs!
We've not met, yet the cemetary is perhaps very apropos!
I was thinking (this doesn't happen too often, LOL) and maybe someone of importance in the clergy was interred there or maybe the local priest is a decent magician!?? It's been my experience to not encounter guardians at all save for the little ones left lurking near specific burials leftover from zealous relatives... All the major guardian types show up at the church during services. The strongest guardians have also been not ones brought by the 'devout' but by other mages! Oh, well....it's getting so's a guy can't get no peace with a walk at night anymore~ (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Greetings BYM...

I know what you mean about it not happening often. Ive been hanging out at cemetaries my entire life. I just love them. And until this happened nothing of the sort had ever occurrd before.

This cemetary had to be at least 100 years old, so I was just thinking that back then the priest might have actually believed in what they were doing when performing the consecration and because of it, the energy left behind, could have attracted the guardians. I dont know really and whatever I guess is just that a guess.

I am planning on returning to investigate further and try to communicate with them if they are still there. Im actually thinking they might have just been resting there, and my noticing them (something that probably dont occur often upset one or both of them.

Excuse the typos in the last post and this one, for some reason (Im guessing its my fat sausage fingers) Ive just been finding typo after typo the past couple of days. It could also be that my fibro is trying to flare up again and I cant really feel my fingers...

Be interesting to hear what you next report on this thread ... I sense that you will find the presences/entities/beings will still be there when you return ...

Likelihood they were purposely invoked by some well informed and powerful 'magi' priest in the past to protect the poor departed souls from intrusion from the astral dimensions ... your own energies could well have activated the guardian presence ...

Graveyards are often powerful places to visit with much energy to feel. They are often very peaceful and tranquil places too ...

Please let us know Babs how you go on ... bad news about your fingers ....


Mr Merlin (Matt)

We have a similar duet of cemetaries where I live, yet they are separated by train tracks, and both of them are catholic (give or take a few corpses).

When I was little, I used to help me grandparents tend the family graves. One of the main ones was the grave of my uncle Jimmy, and since I saw him for quite some time after his death, this was somewhat confusing lol. But I have noticed that a very odd brand of spirit does roam cemetaries, yet it doesn't feel necessarily human. Curious is a good description of the ones I have felt. They seem to make the air very heavy and electrified when they are around. I guess they have personality just like any other consciousness.

I've been to very few cemetaries as I only go there if a family member dies. Whenever it was day I was just my usual self, but at night I would get tense and feel like MANY things would be moving about. This all happened during my childhood years and it was pretty strange for me to be at cemetaries.

Plus I ALSO remember that my little brother said out of the blue about something during my family praying to my dead grandma. He said, "What if we're hurting them by praying to them?" Of course my family said that wasn't true and stuff liek that but it made me think a lot and found it interesting. *shrugs* I don't know but that was when we were at a cemetary and thought it was something to do with it...

Greetings All, Actually thats pretty cool I came across this once before. When I conjure the dead I use cemetary dirt. Its alive with so much energy that it helps to make a strong connection to the other side. A friend when I was living in NC took me too a cemetary. I was amazed when I stepped out of the car. There where guardians, so strong and serious the Black Iron Fences themselves glowed Blue. Before simply walking in I said hello and asked for permission. I let them know I meant no harm that what I took would be used to help someone, and when I was done it would be returned to them.

I walked in after being granted permission, by the way this was a Muslim cemetary I believe none of the head stones where written in english each plot glowed with power, not threatening or creepy just like a pure relaxing flow. I let myself be led to a plot where I ask first before taking the dirt. If given permission I take it, if they refuse you will feel a sense of not pressure but the way you feel around people when you know your not wanted there. Anyway I took it and on my way out to show that my respect had been appreciated a huge black bird only I could see flew over my head a disappeared. I smiled as I went back through the fences to join my friends. It was an awesome experience. From that day forth I kept what was left of the dirt on my alter, and then when I had to move returned it as I had promised. Cemetaries can be truly wonderful places. I call them tween places because they store so much power, and they literally are a cross over point. Here another little tip about graves. The spirit is long gone of course, but the imprint of that sprirt during that lifetime has been left upon that flesh. So each graved is charged with the run off of who that person was, and what they did while alive.

Through the use of psycometrey each one will give you a nice story about the people in life that where buried there. Anyway just thought I'd share... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wizard.gif)

When I conjure the dead I use cemetary dirt. Its alive with so much energy that it helps to make a strong connection to the other side.

Talking about cemetery dirt/graveyard dirt - how do you actually conjure it?

I have in my possesion a dirt from an ancient javanese prince who died about 500 years ago from his sacred grave with permission from the grave keeper. My staff gave it to me after he kept it for more than 15 years. He said it can be used for any magical workings and he did used the dirt twice. Once to get a lottery number and the last one where he cursed a shop to stop getting any customers for 3 days. On both occasion, the graveyard dirt brings satisfactory results. He even mentioned of having dreams of the prince, seen as an old man with white robe emating light.

I am somehow still sceptical on its potency and never used it althought it is on my possession for more than a year now. Honestly, I have not try anything much with it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif) Any suggestion and thoughts on how to properly use this dirt please? Maybe to communicate with the prince?

Oh, on cemetery experience, I have one "interesting" one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif) About 2 years ago I went off with a local shaman (with several of his students) to a secluded grave in the dead of the night to witness a working. They pick a random grave and dig an elbow deep hole in the middle of what they assume above the chest of the dead. There were offerings like coconut, egg, 7 types of flowers, incense and oil placed around the dugged hole. The shaman then insert something inside the hole, then proceed reciting a verse from the Quran while getting to trance. It was dark and I can't look at his facial expressions but a minute later he went quiet then for few seconds he looked possesed when moments later we hear a high pitched demonic laughters of a woman! coming out of his throat. His hands then stiffly moved around to touch/check the offerings as if he/she was blind. All done, they close the hole back and give prayer of thanks.

greetings Kinjo,

Graveyard dirt, is seen by some to be the most powerful conjuring dust that we could ever get our hands on. I am not going to claim to be an expert on all of its uses. I have googled it more than a few times, and have come across many usues for it. What I do know is that you have a very powerful piece of magick there. So I will tell you how I use it.

In alot of cultures they use to use a sacrafice to gain them access to cross over to communicate with loved ones and spirit guides. We've known through history cultures that have used everything from Human to animal sacrifices to do this very thing. The graveyard dirt can be used to take the place of this older more complicated method. When I use first started using it, it brought to me amazing results. Still does, I take it after going through the ritual of asking, then I add other herbs to it, cinnimon, sage, thyme, and a spell. I mix the ingredients charging them, and then use it to bless a spirit board. I use to make them, and destroy the prior with fire after every use. Recently I found a nice shop that sold one that spoke to me so I bought it. When I first started practicing I couldn't figure out how to close the window I'd opened, so after each session I burned the board I made to do so.

Now I use a spell, a spell to do so, when ever I use it. Grave yard dirt is very potent and powerful alone, but I use the added herbs to help balance and direct that power, so that it does exactly what I need it too. Not to sound all teachy, and a little off the subject, but I love alchemy, I've discovered that some herbs added together that would seem like normal kitchen herbs, add magick, or certain types of energy, frequency from(radionics) will give you some very explosive results. If you really wanna know more about that you should look up The Laws Of Thelema, great for understanding balance, and the science of it all. Okay back on the sunject, with the kind of dirt you have. I'm excited for you, but tread carefully I would do a bit of research on its uses first. Above is simply my example for what I use it for. Another tid bit of intresting info, with the fun of making a spirit board you can experiment with colors. Each color will take you some place diffrent, now when I say color. I mean the colors in which your letters and numbers are writen in. Blue will get you your guardian Angels and guides. Brown will get you thouse who have past.

Its alot of fun, with using a bought spirit board you can really change the coloring of the letters, so if you wanna get some place else you can correspond a spell or candle color. Anyway what you have there is great. I suggest a bit of research before using it. Please let me know how your experimentation turns out, and if you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yahoo.gif)

Thanks Phoenixmercury.
I was told that to curse the shop, he simply throw a pinch of dirt nearby the shop while concentrating on his intend. To get lottery number, he meditated near the dirt for some time, then he saw the number suddently illuminate on his wall and a voice of the old prince in his head telling him when to buy the tickect (a month after). To communicate with the prince in dreams, simply put the dirt under the pillow. I did the last one once but to no effect. Althought I know he is trustworthy, somehow I am still a bit sceptic. Your thoughts?

I am having experience of moving in cemeteries. I have generally felt negative energy over there. Some times, the feeling of nausea lingered on even after coming to my home.

Interesting topic, I'll add my experiences.

First off, I live on one corner of a crossroads. There is an old cemetary on the opposite corner. While it's usually quite, from time to time my wife and I find ourselves "disturbed" by an entity or energy there, and go and perform a cleansing. This seems to happen with particularly tragic deaths. Don't know if it's the deceased's manifestation, or the energy left behind by those grieving. This cemetary does have a single guardian. His energies can mostly be felt near the center next to a large gazebo. Now, the way I understood it from him, every cemetary has a guardian. However, I never really could get a clear answer on just what they're there for, or why things get out of hand enough to require a cleansing every so often.

One of my hobbies is photography, been learning it as a tool to help with my art, but in the process have found it to be much more than that. My wife and I have begun taking trips recently to other cemetaries to photograph gravestones. She's in the process of comiling a website documenting symbolism used in gravestones, so we photograph a lot of them. Sure enough, I've felt a guardian presence at every cemetary we've been to. I've also felt varying degrees of rest and unease, as well as evidence of meddling with the energies of the cemetary, either by mages working for a true purpose, mages working for a malicious purpose, or a bunch of kids who want to be "scary" and drew a bunch of "satanic" symbols they found online on the gravestones and thought it'd be fun.

Again, what this guardians purpose is, or how he regards those I mentioned above has not been revealed to me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hmm.gif)

That spirit could have very well been death itself, or perhaps any spirit. To understand the essence of death, one must often visit the graveyard or be near death itself.

I have always been drawn to cemetaries. As a small child of about 4 or 5 I used to ask my mother to take me to them so that I could look at the gravestones!!!

I find them oddly calming, not at all lonely or isolated. Not sure how I feel about the spells that involve graveyard dirt but then I've never been in a situation where I've needed to do that sort of spell.

Having said that personally I don't want to be buried I want to be cremated so I will never actually be laid to rest in one anyway.

To be honest, before i got into magic ( like a month ago ) i was afraid of cemetaries, i thinked that there were monsters there, and spirits, thing like that, i only went to them when a family member dies, but now i am not afraid, the problem is, there is none where i live, well there is, but it's very far away (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif) i would like to know the feeling of being into them! i spent 20 minutes whatching theses storys, their awesome!

Not far from my home in the boonies is a Black Madonna shrine. Beautiful place with ornately designed alcoves and stations of the cross decorated with stone, shells, glass, and numerous other things. The area is divided into two sections, the main area with the various shrines to Mary and the stations and a section with a Seminary, an additional shrine, and a cemetary. A few times in the recent past I have visited this place (always at night) and each time I was at the seminary/cemetary section the visit was coupled with a strange occurrence. The first visit I was with my friends J and S. S was the only person who also was with me at each of the various visits. I remember that when we first approached the altar I thought about how often so many people in distress would come to pray at this site. I mentioned this to my friends and wondered whether the shrines were naturally designed to handle the residual negative energy, or if it lingered. Neither J nor S had a conclusive answer. Later we went to the cemetary area and sat on a bench for a while, all feeling extremely dreamy and surreal. As we later walked through the cemetary all three of us noticed a sudden and temporary feeling of heat in a localized area, and we could not determine any external source for this heat. The second time I returned I was with S and another friend I. S and myself had asked I (he being an experienced magician) if he had any ideas what might have been responsible for the heat, to which he proposed the possibility of there being an incubus there. This was due to the heat there, as opposed to ghosts seeming to produce cold areas, and our feelings of dreaminess-since incubi and other parasitic energy draining spirits tend to create dream-like fantasy states. He felt that perhaps it was attracted to one of the priests (alive or dead) who resided there, due to their high reserve of spiritual energy. Either way, the night with S and I we first visited the shrine area enjoying the beautiful scenery before making our way to the other area. When we did, however, we did not linger because I (friend) immediately felt as though we were being watched and said he saw a face in the window of the seminary staring at us, that neither S nor myself saw. My third experience involved S and another mutual friend A (another neo-pagan). When we approached the shrine we at first took no notice of what was lying there. S decided to play around the small, cave-like tunnel at the back of the shrine. She later told us that as she did this she kept getting dark and violent images appear in her head. As S was doing this, A and I took a closer look at the shrine and noticed that there was broken glass and wax about from shattered candles. I then looked down at the foot of the alter and saw a completely burnt book. I wasn't sure what the book was but it was large and may have been a Bible. Both me and A then got a creepy vibe and went for S. We then looked at the moon which had a strange cloud on it that looked like a scratch across it. At this point we high-tailed it out of there. Now the broken candles and burnt book (to me) seem like nickel-and-dime backwoods kids playin' Satan worshippers. However, coupled with the other phenomena, I have come to an impasse as to what exactly is going on there, but whatever it is it seems malevolent. If any of you guys have any ideas on what might be at the center of these strange events, I'd like to hear them.