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DarK
post Oct 9 2006, 12:43 AM
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Just 2 hours ago i was laying down staring into nothing but blank, and it happened again. I see a blue/purple colour that moves around on its on, as'f it has its own mind, and no its not my imagination. I have noticed this when i concentrate into the black of my mind and calm myself, it shows up and is more lucid after a while. What is this? could this colour mean my aura? if not, then what else could it be? because i've(for as long as i remember) seen this whilst in the dark with my eyes closed. Only recently have i thought that it could maybe mean something important.

Also, I realised that after calming myself and staring into the black for about 5-10 minutes, my visualization becomes extremely lucid. For example; i was visualising that i was walking up stairs in a green forest, and the stairs had leaves and trees amongst them. I remembere EVERY detail of how the greens were and every colour, so realistic that I felt i was actually living the time. I also noticed signs on the steps which i did not make up, they just appeared.

Now could i use the same dream analysis techniques and methods to analyze these lucid visualisations i make up? And what are these visualisations? I have noticed getting them after relaxing myself and by not letting other pictures get in my mind. I've not even ever meditated before, so this is just nice.

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post Oct 9 2006, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(DeathStalker @ Oct 9 2006, 02:43 AM) *
Just 2 hours ago i was laying down staring into nothing but blank, and it happened again. I see a blue/purple colour that moves around on its on, as'f it has its own mind, and no its not my imagination. I have noticed this when i concentrate into the black of my mind and calm myself, it shows up and is more lucid after a while. What is this? could this colour mean my aura? if not, then what else could it be? because i've(for as long as i remember) seen this whilst in the dark with my eyes closed. Only recently have i thought that it could maybe mean something important.

Also, I realised that after calming myself and staring into the black for about 5-10 minutes, my visualization becomes extremely lucid. For example; i was visualising that i was walking up stairs in a green forest, and the stairs had leaves and trees amongst them. I remembere EVERY detail of how the greens were and every colour, so realistic that I felt i was actually living the time. I also noticed signs on the steps which i did not make up, they just appeared.

Now could i use the same dream analysis techniques and methods to analyze these lucid visualisations i make up? And what are these visualisations? I have noticed getting them after relaxing myself and by not letting other pictures get in my mind. I've not even ever meditated before, so this is just nice.


Try talking to the purple blob, it could be friendly astral fauna, or something more specifically beneficient. Could also be something bad, but i've never met anything malificent that was purple. I guess it depends on what purple means in your symbolic lexicon. It's probably not your own aura, because seeing your own aura is kind of like seeing your own face. (For those opposed, i'm not saying you can't see your own aura, i'm saying you shouldn't have to, it's your aura, you should already know what's going on in it)

Other theories, it could be the leftovers of a spell you did once, still hovering around you in the astral. Could be a spell someone else did, study it, expose it to different types of energy and emotion, and you should get a feel for why it's there and what it interacts with.

As for the second part, congratulations, you're capable of projecting to your inner layer. Astral projection can take you to a wide spectrum of places, but the entire spectrum can be divided into two major headings - Inner Astral and Outer Astral. The Inner astral is the complete sum of the information that your Ego encases, a little personal space in the vastness of the Astral Universe that is strictly you. I suggest that it's your inner space, because if you don't know what you're doing yet, then that's the simplest answer. Getting into the outer astral usually requires some sort of conscious effort, or what you would experience there would be less structured than what you're describing.

Practice going to your inner astral space often, it's really about as limitless as the outer astral, just in different ways. Explore yourself by creating images within that setting which correspond to various parts of yourself. A cave might represent the entrance to your subconscious mind (a network of caves "underneath" the "Landscape" of your psyche, get it?), a great tree might represent your life (think personal tree of life). If you're looking at a foresty type landscape, I would stick with forest symbolism, as you apparently are predisposed towards it.

All sorts of self-transformation can take place on this level, shaping that landscape will take practice to make it permanent, but is a good training ground for travel into the outer astral.

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post Oct 10 2006, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE(DeathStalker @ Oct 9 2006, 07:43 AM) *
Just 2 hours ago i was laying down staring into nothing but blank, and it happened again. I see a blue/purple colour that moves around on its on, as'f it has its own mind, and no its not my imagination. I have noticed this when i concentrate into the black of my mind and calm myself, it shows up and is more lucid after a while. What is this? could this colour mean my aura? if not, then what else could it be? because i've(for as long as i remember) seen this whilst in the dark with my eyes closed. Only recently have i thought that it could maybe mean something important.


When your staring into nothing do you have your eyes closed? What do you mean the black of your mind? How do you mean lucid to you? When you have your eyes closed do you still faintly see the room?

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post Oct 10 2006, 07:15 PM
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When i have my eyes closed for about 5 minutes and im looking into the "blackness"...meaning, not imagining anything; i start seeing that purple liquidy form. And for the visualisation, after a while of this purple form, my visualisation becomes very lucid and(with my eyes closed), i can perfectly imagine myself in a beach for example, or a room, or forest, etc...

Im just trying to figure out what the purple liquid could mean, because it seems to trigger my spirit or mind or something like that.

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post Oct 11 2006, 12:46 AM
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just a thought... it could be your "other vision" warming up.... kinda like when you first turn on a tv or monitor and it slowly, little by little starts to fade in.

minute details are often very clear to me also, almost like how i imagine animal eyes to function... everything crystal clear, every minute detail visible and noticeable at first glance... so as far as im concerned that part is a pretty good indication that youre doing things right.

dream analysis techniques seem to be a fairly adequate place to start from when interpreting journeying visions... of course the longer you are in practice, your analysis of visions as well as the directing of the visions themselves will likely be more based on your repertoire of personal experience than anything else...

ok, i think im blithering now, so talk to you guys later....

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post Oct 11 2006, 04:38 AM
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QUOTE(DeathStalker @ Oct 11 2006, 02:15 AM) *
When i have my eyes closed for about 5 minutes and im looking into the "blackness"...meaning, not imagining anything; i start seeing that purple liquidy form. And for the visualisation, after a while of this purple form, my visualisation becomes very lucid and(with my eyes closed), i can perfectly imagine myself in a beach for example, or a room, or forest, etc...

Im just trying to figure out what the purple liquid could mean, because it seems to trigger my spirit or mind or something like that.


Sounds interesting. Great you can do this because some people can't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I for one have had trouble. Can you project outside of your body or has this just begone with you?

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post Oct 11 2006, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(Coffee @ Oct 11 2006, 03:38 AM) *
Sounds interesting. Great you can do this because some people can't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I for one have had trouble. Can you project outside of your body or has this just begone with you?


I've had these purple liquid things all my life but i never paid any attention to them until now. Because now that i've learned more about dreaming/psionics/etc.. i've learned that they may be something i could put to use. Hopefully I can find ways to work with them, as i've already learned that by concentrating on the purple for atleast 5 minutes(the more the better), i get a perfect visualisation. The only bad thing is mind fatigue, it gets kind of tiring after a while, but i need to do it one time when im not feeling so lethargic.

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post Oct 22 2006, 07:17 PM
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Just recently when I was focusing on the purple lights. I started meditating on them with my eyes shut and tried to focus on different emotions and colours. Well, I somehow changed these colours into: Orange, then red, then blue, then green, all with my own will and control. I can't explain how I did it, i just thought about these colours, and almost as if in a dream they occured, as real as they can get.

I must admit, the purple seems to be the dominant colour in my visions. I don't know why.

Any thoughts on this?

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post Nov 10 2006, 04:18 AM
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An update:

I just found out that the colours I would see come from my 3rd eye, and can be developed by concentration on things such as the dancing flame.

After doing some meditating on it I realised I can somehow manipulate this colour, though im working on it.

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post Nov 11 2006, 08:17 AM
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QUOTE(DeathStalker @ Oct 9 2006, 06:43 AM) *
I see a blue/purple colour that moves around on its on, as'f it has its own mind, and no its not my imagination. I have noticed this when i concentrate into the black of my mind and calm myself, it shows up and is more lucid after a while. What is this? could this colour mean my aura? if not, then what else could it be? because i've(for as long as i remember) seen this whilst in the dark with my eyes closed.


So this color thingy, looks like a swirling cloud? Shows up more when you concentrate on it. Could be influencing your mind in some way and as you've thought aura it's emotional to you. What could a cloud do in your thoughts to you?
Also this is with your eyes closed, normally you could see a reflection with your eyes on your eye lids when you rub your eyes and your eye lids themselves. There's this cloud looking thing inside your forhead usually, if thats what you mean, seems like your moving through. Or can you see your room slightly with your eyes closed??

Thanks.

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post Nov 12 2006, 10:29 AM
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QUOTE(Coffee @ Nov 11 2006, 06:17 AM) *
So this color thingy, looks like a swirling cloud? Shows up more when you concentrate on it. Could be influencing your mind in some way and as you've thought aura it's emotional to you. What could a cloud do in your thoughts to you?
Also this is with your eyes closed, normally you could see a reflection with your eyes on your eye lids when you rub your eyes and your eye lids themselves. There's this cloud looking thing inside your forhead usually, if thats what you mean, seems like your moving through. Or can you see your room slightly with your eyes closed??

Thanks.



Actually I did some research and found out that its from my 3rd eye. Just takes a while for it to start seeing these purple colours.

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post Nov 16 2006, 08:06 AM
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Keep us updated on your progress, it's extremelly interesting to me. I've been able to do the same except with a darker, red color. I've always dismissed it as something normal with just lying there.


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