Can Someone Explain This?, A site containing untamed information on Archangel Azrael Options

I was searching to read on the Archangel of Death known as "Azrael" and I came up with this site:

Azrael

Now I have no idea why, but the site's information seems to be twisted, based on Christian/Pagan theories on the Archangel and life after death. Or is this part of an RHP game?

Anyone who knows about archangels are angelic spirits perhaps could tell me what this site is faunting?

I was searching to read on the Archangel of Death known as "Azrael" and I came up with this site:

Azrael

Now I have no idea why, but the site's information seems to be twisted, based on Christian/Pagan theories on the Archangel and life after death. Or is this part of an RHP game?

Anyone who knows about archangels are angelic spirits perhaps could tell me what this site is faunting?

Its part of a game, follow the ln Nomine link at the bottom of the page

Its part of a game, follow the ln Nomine link at the bottom of the page

It seems to have some occult truth to it though, almost like a belief system...

For a game it seems quite interesting the information which it has gathered.

It seems to have some occult truth to it though, almost like a belief system...

For a game it seems quite interesting the information which it has gathered.

The guy who created this page can definitely write and indeed he was able to capture a mythic aura...as to the accuracy of the info in all honest I just don't know. All these RPG games are in a sense a belief system- they create a mythic reality complete with detailed storylines, characters, rules, and tend to consume the lives of their practitioners LOL... All I know about Azrael is that he is an angel of death. In fact if I am not mistaken Azrael is the angel in Exodus who claims all the first born sons of Egypt. Is he mentioned in the Book of Enoch ????


edit: Never mind. Just checked Book of Enoch there is a Azael, Azazel ... but not Azrael.

This post has been edited by Faustopheles: Nov 28 2006, 04:14 AM

The guy who created this page can definitely write and indeed he was able to capture a mythic aura...as to the accuracy of the info in all honest I just don't know. All these RPG games are in a sense a belief system- they create a mythic reality complete with detailed storylines, characters, rules, and tend to consume the lives of their practitioners LOL... All I know about Azrael is that he is an angel of death. In fact if I am not mistaken Azrael is the angel in Exodus who claims all the first born sons of Egypt. Is he mentioned in the Book of Enoch ????
edit: Never mind. Just checked Book of Enoch there is a Azael, Azazel ... but not Azrael.

From what I know, Azrael is the Angel of Death, and a very misunderstood Angel (If he is even an angel). In the Bible and in Judiasm he is one of the 5? 7? archangels and I believe he is the messenger of death. In some occult theories he is known to be nothing more than a thoughtform which has gathered strength over time. In some Satanic philosophies, he wouldn't exist, as the Black Book of Satan states that Satan chooses how long one lives (which would prove Azrael to be nothing). And yet in many Necromantic traditions Azrael is viewed as a "Helping" guide and a "must contact".

So i've no idea, but it would be great to discuss this spirit, as i'm quite interested in learning more about him myself, and what's there to lose? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

In Nomine, by Steve Jackson Games, is a roleplaying game featuring the War between Heaven and Hell. I am a freelance writer and editor whose work has appeared in most In Nomine supplements.

Yup! A RPG...as far as accuracy...it isn't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/horse.gif)

I came across this website. Haven't quite looked it through, but seems promising.

http://www.songofazrael.org/

Oops! double posted!

This post has been edited by smasher666: Nov 28 2006, 04:31 PM

Greetings,

Azrael has Biblical sources to his credit as well as books of Apocrypha. <Books which did not make it into the Bible for various reasons.>

He is not recognized as an Archangel by the Vatican. He is however one of the ministering class of angels of high position.

I have not seen a lot out there on summoning him except The Necromantic Ritual Book by Wendell Leliah if my memory is correct.

It gives a great method of contacting Azrael in a graveyard and communing with him. Although I do not advocate the tomb robbing recommended in the book. It deals with Necromancy.

This angel should be regarded as important to anyone who practices Necromancy.

I equate him to the 8th name of Marduk Namtillaku of Simons Necronomicon.

He is not to be confused with the Egregore / watcher from the book of Enoch Azazel which is the Christian Lucifer.

Before Azrael became the angel of death the Archangel Michael held the position and claimed souls with his sword. There is still a bond between Michael and Azrael because of this.

Google Azrael and Apocrypha or Bible as I do not remember my source for this but it should not be hard to find.

Judging that he has Hebrew Christian and Islamic sources I believe it is pretty safe to say he exist outside of some RPG game.

He is definitely not evil he is just doing his job. He is easy to summon if you don't mind siting in a graveyard at night. I would strongly recommend calling him if a loved one is on their death bed.

As Azrael can pass you over. There is a story in the Bible in which he took the souls of all first born in Egypt. Except for the Hebrews who splashed sacrificial blood on thier doors at the advice of Moses.

At least make friends with him before you die!

Peace

I came across this website. Haven't quite looked it through, but seems promising.

http://www.songofazrael.org/

Wow thank you for that link, its almost like a book!

I'm going to be quite busy reading this, i'll keep the post updated on any information I find that seems interesting.

Wow thank you for that link, its almost like a book!

I'm going to be quite busy reading this, i'll keep the post updated on any information I find that seems interesting.

Yeah please do...I took a brief look at it and it seemed pretty good- although I think there are some underlying political motives (i.e. Israel - Palestine conflict). Let me know if you find anything of use. Also , I would follow up on Smasher666's comment regarding the Apocrypha...so much knowledge in these books!! If you search around the internet you can find some of them to download (check the bit torrent sites for ' lost bible').

Reading the entire intro (and other pages within for relevance), it seems that the man is comparing the Judiasm, Christian, and Islam discriptions and myths about Azrael (Azra, Ezra).

From what I read he had not much (if none) spiritual facts about "who Azrael" is, but only historical (facts?), on what relevates ancient folklore of the Jews, Christians, and Muslims.

It's also interesting how, i think it was the jews, who believed that Azra had become the Angel of Death "Azrael" and that someone (forgot his name) who was a votive Muslim wrote about Azra being Azrael.\

I'm kind of confused about all of what was written, partly because i've never read much of the Bible, Quran, or the Book of Enoch, but hopefully someone else can read and help me with understanding this.

I'm not sure much on who this author is, but thus far i've learned many sides of the story on this spirit.

A very good site nevertheless, and I shall continue reading on...

Well, the closest thing to the angel of death you're going to get is Samael, the 'poison of god'. But according to my tidbits of information, he doesn't appear as a robed skeleton, or a floating black robe..He appears as a Serpent with a lions head.

.::Sempre Bene:;..::Chris::.
-Fiat Lux

According to this post, and as well as some other "beliefs"... Some people view Samael as the Angel of Death, which would make all the site's claims and mythological logic false.

This materialized during my first experience with Azrael and
compares our names numerically... an unusual curiosity that
kept playing on my mind. A diversity of interpretations have
been offered and are posted on our page: Azrael's Puzzle.

Kabbalah scholars have explained to me that words are connected in numerical arrangements and that certainly holds true here but Azrael demonstrates that these words not only have to "weigh" the same, so we can determine their connections, they must be ordered exactly too or the connections will render gibberish.

As for the interpretation of this unusual arrangement, Leilah Wendell boasts: "You mean that mathematical crap you made up?".

However, her interpretation was offered before we'd discovered that her name is included and, despite her attitude toward this kabbalistic demonstration, it seems that we all share something in common. We have all published material concerning Azrael. What are the odds?

Both Archie and Leilah published a "Book of Azrael". Archie in 1987 and Leilah in 1990. I have yet to write a book, but I have conducted extensive research concerning the origin of the name Azrael and this research supports one of Archie's statements by demonstrating there are several established connections between the biblical scribe, Azra, and the archangel Azra'el.

If the mathematical structure is sound, there should be eighteen (18) names forming nine perfectly arranged pairs. What this table means cannot yet be determined, but the connections it draws between the people named cannot be easily excused, especially when considering the fact that none of us knew of the others when this puzzle was first revealed to me in September of 1999. Anyone care to take a shot at an interpretation? We'd love to hear from you! Just Email Us at: [email protected]

Here is the Kabbalistic Puzzle:

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1..........2..........3..........4..........5..........6..........7..........8..
........9

A.........B..........C.........D..........E..........F..........G..........H....
......I
J..........K..........L.........M..........N.........O..........P..........Q....
......R
S.........T..........U.........V..........W.........X.........Y..........Z

AA..................L......................E..................................Z.
.........R = Azrael
SA..................L......................E..................................H.
..........I = Sheila

A....................L......................E..................................Z
..........RI = Raziel
A....................C......................E..................................H
.........RI = Archie

A....................CL....................E..................................H.
.........R = Rachel
A....................LL....................E...................................H
..........I = Leilah

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This seems to be a challenge given in the site, perhaps someone who understands Kabbalah or Numerology could understand this.

He even asks to email him for reference.

Have fun (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lock.gif)

This post has been edited by DeathStalker: Nov 29 2006, 01:05 AM

Damn, thats a tough puzzle!! Each pair of names reduces to the same number (i.e. Azrael and Sheila to 9, Raziel and Archie to 8, and Rachel and Leilah to 11 or 2), but other than that I cant see any other immediate patterns. I find it strange that the key to the puzzle references modern numerology not Hebrew Gematria. In hebrew: Azrael = 239, Sheila = 341, Raziel = 248, Archie = 219, Rachel = 239, Leilah = 76... so no pattern except for Azrael and Rachel?????

Damn, thats a tough puzzle!! Each pair of names reduces to the same number (i.e. Azrael and Sheila to 9, Raziel and Archie to 8, and Rachel and Leilah to 11 or 2), but other than that I cant see any other immediate patterns. I find it strange that the key to the puzzle references modern numerology not Hebrew Gematria. In hebrew: Azrael = 239, Sheila = 341, Raziel = 248, Archie = 219, Rachel = 239, Leilah = 76... so no pattern except for Azrael and Rachel?????

Would these Qabbalic numbers hold any Numerological order to them? or Astrological order?

My appologies for my ignorance on Qabbalah (IMG:style_emoticons/default/oops.gif)

Would these Qabbalic numbers hold any Numerological order to them? or Astrological order?

My appologies for my ignorance on Qabbalah (IMG:style_emoticons/default/oops.gif)

I don't see anything, but I don't know nearly enough to have any sort of definitive word. Don't you think that it is weird that that key is modern (each letter of our alphabet is assigned a number 1-9)? If Azrael is related to the scribe Azra as the site claims one would expect him to be working with Hebrew Gematria. My guess is that the modern key may only be meant to draw associations between the pair of names (i.e. Azrael and Sheila = 9), but the key to the message is in the hebrew gematria.

In kabbalistic gematria there are various systems for attributing value to the letters (i.e. absolute, ordinal, reduced, and integral reduced) and some say that each of these systems corresponds to a different world (i.e. Atzilut, Beriah, Yetzirah,Asiyah)... this is really complicated and provides for a plethora of meaning. According to the site, this puzzle was revealed to Sheila seven years ago and my guess is that without further clues it will not be solved. Apparently some mathematicians and dedicated kabbalists have also been unable to decipher the message. Sorry bro, I wish I could be more helpful.

This post has been edited by Faustopheles: Nov 29 2006, 10:28 PM

I don't see anything, but I don't know nearly enough to have any sort of definitive word. Don't you think that it is weird that that key is modern (each letter of our alphabet is assigned a number 1-9)? If Azrael is related to the scribe Azra as the site claims one would expect him to be working with Hebrew Gematria. My guess is that the modern key may only be meant to draw associations between the pair of names (i.e. Azrael and Sheila = 9), but the key to the message is in the hebrew gematria.

In kabbalistic gematria there are various systems for attributing value to the letters (i.e. absolute, ordinal, reduced, and integral reduced) and some say that each of these systems corresponds to a different world (i.e. Atzilut, Beriah, Yetzirah,Asiyah)... this is really complicated and provides for a plethora of meaning. According to the site, this puzzle was revealed to Sheila seven years ago and my guess is that without further clues it will not be solved. Apparently some mathematicians and dedicated kabbalists have also been unable to decipher the message. Sorry bro, I wish I could be more helpful.

The author of the site is completely drawn to the Islamic definition of Azra / Azrael, I stopped paying attention to it.

The author of the site is completely drawn to the Islamic definition of Azra / Azrael, I stopped paying attention to it.

Why would you stop paying attention due to the Islamic definition?

Remember that Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are all branches of the tree begun by Abraham. Azrael in Islam (like in the other traditions) is the Angel of Death. I think he actually has a higher position in Islamic Mysticism as an archangel of one of the quadrants as well.

I tend to like the Islamic version of how he collects souls. People who live good lives are taken peacefully, but for the sinners and evil-doers Azrael jerks them violently from their physical bodies. (reminds me of some of my first Astral Projection attempts) lol.

Why would you stop paying attention due to the Islamic definition?

Remember that Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are all branches of the tree begun by Abraham. Azrael in Islam (like in the other traditions) is the Angel of Death. I think he actually has a higher position in Islamic Mysticism as an archangel of one of the quadrants as well.

I tend to like the Islamic version of how he collects souls. People who live good lives are taken peacefully, but for the sinners and evil-doers Azrael jerks them violently from their physical bodies. (reminds me of some of my first Astral Projection attempts) lol.

I read everything the man said, time to move on to new flesh, is what I meant.