feel free to put this where it belongs if i missed
excepts from a conversation this morning that will mean a whole lot to some and probably get a 'so waht' from everybody else
(i just put up mine cause i didn't have permission to use theirs and didn't want to piss them off by asking but you can get the drift)
(06:32:07) esoterica: very interesting - ok, yesterday you hit it with 'consciousness vs unconsciousness' or similar, and then last night somebody said about the same thing, so i asked for enlightenment on this issue
(06:34:04) esoterica: i think you were right to say the physical and spiritual are one and the same and we experience both differently because we are trained to, and i think i was right to say that we don't converse with our subconscious directly, but hold it at bay and 'block' it from coming to close cause thats where our most basic drives and fears are (did we really conquer the animal or just cage it up out of sight)
(06:36:57) esoterica: its what we reach in [deep meditation[, but what a hell of a state to have to be in just to talk to our own brains - can't evolve, function or remain in that state forever
(06:38:55) esoterica: for years people have been looking for the way to link to the subconscious directly - (deleted)
(06:42:35) esoterica: everyone who has tried so far to link to the subconscious has either gone mad trying, failed miserably or succeeded slightly like we do with [deep meditation], but because they are working from the outside inwards
(06:44:14) esoterica: the proposal i received was to let the subconscious link with the conscious mind (and we have only the ancient greeks to thank that they are split in the first place!)
(06:45:01) esoterica: we only have to use the [standard manifestation methods] (deleted) described to bring about the link!
(06:46:44) esoterica: so now (deleted) is screaming to the ancestors - 'i demand to be connected to my unconscious mind!", and then we leave it up to them while holding the energy within as much as we can for them to use
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This post has been edited by esoterica: Dec 9 2006, 07:20 AM
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