Izabael-grand-daughter Of A Goetic Spirit? Options

hey guys i was searching goetic entities and this curious entity popped out.A new goetic entity not in the goetia but many profess by..Her name?IZABAEL..What u guys think?


www.izabael.com

hey guys i was searching goetic entities and this curious entity popped out.A new goetic entity not in the goetia but many profess by..Her name?IZABAEL..What u guys think?


www.izabael.com

How recently? There was a character on "The 4400" named Isabelle, pronounced similarly. I mention it because sometimes pop-icons find purchase in the occult world, usually because of their associated subject - in this case evolution. Just a thought, i'll have to check out the site.

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Greetings!
I cannot find ANYTHING legitimate about "Izabael" as being a 'Goetic' despite claims here and otherwise. She is a fictionized character. Could someone please care to show us just where your sources are? I've 'googled' the lot and have found nothing useful. Anybody care to clarify this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused012.gif)

PS Added material
These links are to the 'dis'information about Izabael
She has her own MySpace accnt,
She is a character in a book,
and she has been misrepresented as being involved with the Goetia....which she is not!
She may exist as a created being but in no way is she a 'goetic demon'! Just because a clever author can manipulate words doesn't mean that there is any truth to them!
It is suggested on a number of these sites that if you can't seem to contact Izabael then you should use Salvia Divinorum to facilitate the experience! I can't even begin to tell you what's wrong with that statement!
Here, to perpetuate this idiocy:

http://www.nuith.com/goetic-art/index2.html

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...iendid=89439205

http://www.nuith.com/goetic-art/index2.html

This post has been edited by bym: Jan 21 2007, 12:40 PM

Hello bym!

Whether or not Izabael is a goetic granddaughter of seere or if she's just a well developed egregore, I don't know. What I do know is that she gave me my first taste of the spirit world when I first got started with magick a couple of years ago.
I was meditating and I slipped into a very deep trance state. Once I realized I couldn't feel my body, I started to see many "fishlike" spirits floating around me. At least they looked fishlike, I assume now they were lesser familiars. Then I saw a purple mist of energy floating towards me, getting stronger and brighter. I assumed it was her, since her favorite color is purple and I started to think "izabael" and she grew stronger. She came and she embraced me, as much as a spirit can embrace a human, and she kissed my lips. That was a fantastic sensation, but it was overwhealming and very physical, so I came out of the trance.
After that I received a familiar spirit that has saved my life several times (from physical attacks) and has been my guardian ever since. So like I said, I don't know what she is exactly, but she's very kind and real, even if she is only in a book.

She is supposed to be a jinn, and a succubus. If that kiss isn't a good indication of her being a good lover, I don't know what is. The MySpace account is get her more fame, which is something she wants in exchange for her services. Most goetics demand payment somehow, so she's not that far from being considered a goetic.

Also, the writer of that book was inspired to write it after he met her several years ago, and he has been very grateful to her, trying to get her more fame since she found his wife for him.

Why don't you try to contact her? She's very nice, and I don't think you would have any trouble finding her, with all your experience.

Hmmm......
Nope! Sorry! I have little to no use fraternizing with anything remotely like a sucubus/incubus nor something that was created to satisfy someones fantasy of 'I Dream of Jeannie' TV shows. First off, what makes you think it was 'safe' to fool with a random 'spirit' that comes up and kisses you? Prophylactics are made for every occassion! LOL! I guess that my idea of evocation differs somewhat from your own! The author of this fiction suggests use of a hallucinogen to facilitate dealing with 'her'. This could be able to 'boost' the users imaginative process or it could help to subdue your concious control. It would be safer to try and evoke the 'Grinch' from Dr. Seuss book than to 'mess' around with demons (and I use that term loosely). Under my studies of Khemetic magic and religion I find no mention of the neter Nuit having a 'child' with the Goetic demon Seere. Granted, Chaos theory of Magic(k) tells us that your limitations are that of your imagination but I'd prefer to deal with things more substantive. IMHO! of course...! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

This post has been edited by bym: Jan 21 2007, 04:36 PM

First off, what makes you think it was 'safe' to fool with a random 'spirit' that comes up and kisses you?

I didn't think it was safe, or dangerous. I simply didn't believe in spirits when I did it. It was more for a laugh to see what would happen. Any non-believer can make a mistake, but I definately don't think that was a mistake, and I'm glad I did. After all, I learned from it.

Under my studies of Khemetic magic and religion I find no mention of the neter Nuit having a 'child' with the Goetic demon Seere. Granted, Chaos theory of Magic(k) tells us that your limitations are that of your imagination but I'd prefer to deal with things more substantive. IMHO! of course...! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Well it's definately related to chaos, this whole thing, that's for sure. It's not impossible to create a servitor that will be embraced by a Godform and be allowed to grow stronger and more intelligent. I had a servitor that ascended and became some kind of an angel, last time I checked. Although she prefers to have her privacy so I won't mention her name. But she is highly evolved now, much more intelligent than I could have made her. Also, I don't see why Izabael couldn't be a familiar spirit of the goetic spirit seere, and she just calls herself his granddaughter. I don't think all their many many legions of spirits are stupid after all. Some could evolve, no?

I just did an evocation of Izabael. I got nothing, I shouldnt of drawn the sigil on the mirror. It was getting in the way. I used this conjuration

"Izabael, uncanny sprite,
visit me this lonesome night.
Take my hand and give me power,
answer truly upon this hour
all that I might wish to know.
Oh, airy spirit whom the wind doth blow,
Travel hither and tither, bringing my desire,
Confirm this pact by the light of fire."

I stared at the sigi on parchment for a few minutesl
I recited then I stared at my mirror
I asked are you there nothing after a whille of trying I heard a female voice to my right. didnt make any sense
I asked how are you related to the goetia. I saw a golden chair
I asked what can you do. I got somthing open your hand
I was pissed off. I was there for more than half an hour. asking her to show herself,speak to me.
I say were are you. here. were? and im hearing a female voice laughing.
I dont like this entity. Just dosent work well with me. I would have better luck evokiing Mepsitahl. even if it wouldnt be clear. I get better results. I was seriously thinking of burning her sigil.
I should mention that before I did the evocation I went to sleep. just a light sleep and I was thinking about Izabael and the evocation I was going to do and I saw a childish face with black hair and deep dark black eyes. probley me just imagining what she would look like. anyway I dont know. I do everything correct. the ritual. I get tranced with breathing and yoga. start scrying get clouds, all good. but when I do evocations I cant make sense out of it. Its like hearing a conversation next door but dont know what they are saying. and just random images like I would be scrying. I dont know maybe I cant do it, it sucks im not happy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I thought this spirit was an artificial created by a guy from occultforums. I could be mistaken but it does sound familiar.

I just did an evocation of Izabael. I got nothing, I shouldnt of drawn the sigil on the mirror. It was getting in the way. I used this conjuration

"Izabael, uncanny sprite,
visit me this lonesome night.
Take my hand and give me power,
answer truly upon this hour
all that I might wish to know.
Oh, airy spirit whom the wind doth blow,
Travel hither and tither, bringing my desire,
Confirm this pact by the light of fire."

I stared at the sigi on parchment for a few minutesl
I recited then I stared at my mirror
I asked are you there nothing after a whille of trying I heard a female voice to my right. didnt make any sense
I asked how are you related to the goetia. I saw a golden chair
I asked what can you do. I got somthing open your hand
I was pissed off. I was there for more than half an hour. asking her to show herself,speak to me.
I say were are you. here. were? and im hearing a female voice laughing.
I dont like this entity. Just dosent work well with me. I would have better luck evokiing Mepsitahl. even if it wouldnt be clear. I get better results. I was seriously thinking of burning her sigil.
I should mention that before I did the evocation I went to sleep. just a light sleep and I was thinking about Izabael and the evocation I was going to do and I saw a childish face with black hair and deep dark black eyes. probley me just imagining what she would look like. anyway I dont know. I do everything correct. the ritual. I get tranced with breathing and yoga. start scrying get clouds, all good. but when I do evocations I cant make sense out of it. Its like hearing a conversation next door but dont know what they are saying. and just random images like I would be scrying. I dont know maybe I cant do it, it sucks im not happy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Any symbols you saw are for you to interpret. Working with her is not a one time thing, you know. She can be very playful, which is probably why she wouldn't show herself. Also, she usually sends a familiar, so if you asked if she was Izabael and she didn't answer, then that's because it wasn't her. Also, you shouldn't have gotten mad. She doesn't like impatient people.

She does have black hair, by the way. It makes sense that you would see her childish, she will sometimes show up as a cute little fairy.

Like you said, you don't like her so she probably won't help you anyway. You have to be patient with her, but she can be a very helpful spirit. She can give you messages from your HGA.

J*S, yes it's the same spirit. Although she was originally believed to be a simple servitor, the guy that created her later found out she was a pre-existing unknown jinn. It happens, look at Rin's servitor. You might remember he created an all-purpose servitor. He now knows that he already existed in his life and inspired Rin to create him as a means of getting his attention. Same thing happened to me.

Yeah when I got mad almost all traces if her were gone. Okay I'll try again tonight sinse I want to have a spirit to teach me about goetia. Do you have any advice when you may hear a voice but Its not clear anough to understand? does anyone know a way to make your hearing clearer? I feel like Im going back to school now to relearn everything (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by scryer: Jan 22 2007, 03:21 PM

Izabael is a created thought form.

A guy I know from another forum formed her using one of the Goetia demons as her "sponser" or how ever you wish to put it. Her original intent was for him to gain sex partners and grew into something more and he credits her with gaining his current wife who is/was a stripper. As far as I know he continues to "power" her up attempting to maintain a new and separate entity. I have no idea to her current state identity now.

Yeah Maybe she was made from some guys sex fantasay. makes sense that its easier to see her when you asleep im bed. on the other post altpasth you said she wont be ristricted to the triangle. I kept on getting the feeling she was on my right so that whould be in the south. And there was something about opening my right hand. maybe to put sand in it. Ive only tried it once usually it takes a whille so when I try it again I'll probley get better results next time. I wont make up my mind about her just yet. I'll give it a chance, but If not then your probley right about her being a servitor.
and about how she likes gaining popularity and fame, maybe the creater uses this to try and make her stronger, something with the collective unconcience. just a thought.

This post has been edited by scryer: Jan 22 2007, 03:46 PM

on the other post altpasth you said she wont be ristricted to the triangle. I kept on getting the feeling she was on my right so that whould be in the south. And there was something about opening my right hand. maybe to put sand in it.

Well it doesn't sound to me like you were going for a traditional goetic evocation, that's why I said she wouldn't be restricted to the triangle. You used the "friendly" invocation that is on her website, and it doesn't mention anywhere on it that she should appear inside the triangle. That's what I meant. If she showed up in the south, that's probably related to her firey passion, IMHO. I also feel her presence in the south.

What do you mean by putting sand into your right hand?

Next time you try talking to her, and you start to hear her voice but it's far away, start vibrating her name, and if it's her or one of her familiars, that should get her powered up so that you can hear her better.