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Hi, everyone! I just joined recently....

My name is 'Joe', and I've been interested in the Occult for as long as I can remember (I'm only 16 though, so not very long I guess).
Also, I'm transsexual, meaning I'm a female stuck in a male body. I have been looking all over the web for the past year and a half for a solution to my problem (i.e., a method of changing my physical sex without surgery, which of course at 16 I don't have the money for).
Now, even if you don't know a method that would bring about total physical change, if you have any ideas about where I could look, or if you know any methods that would bring about at least partial change, it'd be a great help.

Btw, I don't have any idea where to post this question, which is why I put it in my 1st post. So, I guess if anyone can tell me where I should post this, that'd be really helpful! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)


Thanks so much for everything,
Jenny (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1238.gif)

This post has been edited by polite.heretic: Dec 29 2006, 10:09 PM

jenny ...
welcome to the forum ...
i have no idea how to help you on the physical aspect of it, but do wish you the best in your journey. be well and safe and know that you have support from people who don't even know you. your journey may be different than most, but it doesn't have to be hard ... follow your natural road and life will be complete, easy, full of joy and happiness.

Taking estrogen is a good start, though getting it would be difficult. I know that at your age, if I had to go to the doctor's office, I had to go through my parents. And I'm fairly certain you have to get a prescription for it.

Aside from that, I somewhat share your problem. I am a male who has always synchronized with the phases of the moon, who is in and of herself, very feminine. My moods change with hers. In the dark ages, they called people like me "Lunatics". But another effect of my deep connection to the Night Mother means I'm 90% or so homosexual. Many stories relating to that as well. I've always been quiet about it, though I've always been very jealous of women. So elegant. Me, I'm built on an iron frame. Big, strong, hairy. I don't like it. People tell me I'm handsome, but what I've always wanted to hear was that I'm pretty. Ah well, c'est la vie.

I've just come to embrace the fact that I was born with what I have, and I lack the funds for surgery, on top of which I don't think I'd make a very good woman. Too hairy, lazy, not ladylike enough.

Good luck on your journey from another one of us here. May the sun light your path and the moon watch your sleep.

This post has been edited by Isaiah: Dec 31 2006, 07:18 PM

Hello Jenny, and welcome to the forums.

Remember, many may have ignorant responds to who you are, but just "shoo them like you would a dog". Keep your head up, be confident! And you'll find happiness, for happiness lies within yourself, and not succumbing to barks.

Anyways welcome and I hope you have a great stay here.

This post has been edited by DeathStalker: Jan 3 2007, 07:54 AM

Hello Jenny, and welcome to the forums.

Remember, many may have ignorant responds to who you are, but just "shoo them like you would a dog". Keep your head up, be confident! And you'll find happiness, for happiness within yourself, and not succumbing to barking dogs.

Shoo Shoo! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Anyways welcome and I hope you have a great stay here.

So deathstaker thinks his super kool and trying to help this guy... Its good to encourage people with their own ideas...

If the dude thinks he wants to be a gurl, then its his own decision and if he wants to cut that di*&$# then noone can stop him frm doing that once he's 18. I can understand that when someones mind differs from what the body is, then it sucks. But also i would recommend trying a much smoother alternative and try to consider accepting the male body. for that that guy needs to go to a specialist i guess and if it does work out, go for what you feel you want. Its your Body :-)



And coming to you deathstaker, i find your posts had some good points before as you did quite some research but thats where you stop... You need to find wisdom too instead of only gathering knowledge as not all knowledge is reliable. I feel what your posts carry and that aint wisdom at all dude... Instead you are getting worse what you were.

I came to a conclusion thanks to you, that people workin with the LHp can gain knowledge and some power but not wisdom ultimately. You know why i blocked you on msn, its cause of what you think you are, you pretended to know the old english type of talking like "hath, thy, blowthjob" etc lol and were talking as if you are so expert in that and had to change to normal english in the chat coz my english was the normal used...lol...this sucks...

You give newbies false hope with lots of your posts.. you dont take a damn of what others think of you, but know that people who are new might get influenced with your posts. I dont give a shit of what you are going to reply coz i know i am much better that you in all sense and that you are worth nothing more that those armchair slu%($ who think they can conquer the world with a psi ball they learnt to create.



regards,

Mystick (IMG:style_emoticons/default/gleam.gif)

Dude, seriously. What the f%*!. He was trying to give the girl some hope. And now you gotta jump all over him.

Well I guess you didn't mean what you said about people showing you you can be wrong and trying to become wiser. Not a lot of wisdom can be found in what you're saying now.

Fucking practice what you preach, man, seriously. No, this hasn't earned my ire because Deathstalker and I are buddies, and if I saw this shit about anybody else you can fucking bet I'd be just as livid. No threats will you hear from me, but you have earned my disrespect.

To you, and all others like you: Eat a dick. Nobody wants to hear what you think about someone else for posting something they believe in. You interject your opinion where it doesn't belong, and nobody appreciates someone like that. All I'm saying is that this is a lonely road you've chosen, and I hope you're prepared for lifetime ramifications of the shit you're doing now. I'm genuinely sorry for you.

Dude i guess you people are right. When I read the PM that was posted on the forum, i really did not find any hard reason why the dude should change sex. Thats why before he hardcoded something like surgical alternative as he would not get that with magic, i Just wanted him to try consulting a psy or any qualified person. I have noticed a great deal of mental problems (not to offend but i dont know any other words) with a lot of youngsters these days and they counstruct a reality around this problem that later shatter their own lives.

Surgically doing that is not game at all and there is not guarantee that its gonna be pleasant later on. I felt sorry for the dude and may be this is what brought out the surge of anger out of me. But when i reexplore what is in stake then i guess this guy needs support in what he already has in mind... I was not like trying to taut him, it was more of an attempt like to shake his mind a bit but i guess i was wrong the whole way...



DeathStaker has always been nice to me and i guess i have been an a$%*#!* here but saying what i said above. What made me harsh is that from several posts i came to find several changes in Death Stalker so to summerise: Just one thing i would like to say to you dudes, on the way to magick lots of people will tell you they can do lots of feats and they can promise you lots of powers, but you really need to see the truth infront of you and not just blindly follow them. The same applies for some entities who claim they gonna give you power just like that. Be very cautious of these things. Additionally Deathstaker you know you have a great deal of arrogance into several of your posts...Sometimes just break this arrogance dude and be more tolerant. The same applies for me and i am still learning to do that. When you try to progress magically, dont just think for your own upliftment. try doing some constructive things with that and that could help society better up. its a great key to achieving much more power from the Divinities. the more you give, the more you will advance and much more you will get. This will make you be more sensitive to feelings and thus you could have a much deeper/spiritual thinkin of a problem and eventually get to know the best way to solve the prob... Dont say that emotions are a hindrance to progress magically. Instead emotions will later on help you win victories against much more powerful enemies than now...

I know you would not like my saying all this but i am saying that so that you realise that the path you want to take will give you power and knowledge but what will come of your own spirit.. It will be Hard and emotionally blind.



I formally APPOLOGISE TO DEATHSTALKER. I could remove the post above but let me know what you want to.



and to isaiah, i know i am far from being a nice dude but i try to. and the post i made above is not a good way to do so. I dont know what gets onto me sometimes that makes me like that instead of having a peaceful alternative. I guess i have a long way to go to be a better magician but i really appologise. Is that ok that i delete the above post?



my appologies,

Mystick.

Hello! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) May I interject something?
Mystick: *I'm not mad at you, kk? lol* It isn't an issue of me wanting to become a girl. I already am. In mind, anyway. And I do have a counselor. He hasn't tried to deter me from the conclusions that I have about myself, as he is not a specialist who deals with transgendered people. He's helped me out a lot though, just by listening to me. *By the way, just gonna say it now, if I start getting snippy, I apologize in advance* And if what you were trying to do was explain to me that it'd be easier to change my mind then it would be to change my body, or that I should try to change my mind before I 'ruined' my body or some such, I understand and respect your opinion, but IMHO, it's quite wrong. You say that it would be...a mistake, that I would be...dissolusioned, to change my body. But I say the same about the mind. You say that I'm a 'youngster', and that I'm prolly too young to know who I am, that maybe somewhere along the way I got confused. But how can you be sure? What if that was not the case, and by trying to make me more of a 'man', to make me accept my body the way it is, and repress all atachments to the identity of being a girl, would mess me up more then if I just let it take it's course, and explore who I am? *Sorry if it seems like I'm putting words in your mouth* I don't know. I have felt to some degree or another since I was about 7 that I was supposed to be a girl. And I want to talk to a specialist about this, one who deals with transgendered people. And I would talk to them before I would make the (IMO) rash decsion (sp?) of trying to warp my mind with 'be more manly accept your body' therapy. *Oh, and sorry if I just stir things up again by posting this*

Any way, thanks for the warm welcome, everyone! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Oh, and does anyone know how this forum counts your posts? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cc_confused.gif) I think I have like 6 posts, but it just shows as two. Idk, maybe I'm just being loony. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happydance.gif)

~ Sincerely Single,
Jenny (IMG:style_emoticons/default/giggle.gif)

I used to think your issue and homosexuality to be total BS when i was younger. But now that ive studied the esoteric and realize that we are all half man and half women. and that most people no matter the sex cannot handle that. I understand much better. You see to truly awaken my mind my potential and my energy the way i wish to. i have to see the feminine side of myself. It is hard. Good luck

I used to think your issue and homosexuality to be total BS when i was younger. But now that ive studied the esoteric and realize that we are all half man and half women. and that most people no matter the sex cannot handle that. I understand much better. You see to truly awaken my mind my potential and my energy the way i wish to. i have to see the feminine side of myself. It is hard. Good luck

Some people are just more open to their feminine sides, yet are bound by their masculine bodies.

Through empathic and telepathic feelings people usually open up to both sides equally.

I'll make this quick. Mystick, thank you for entertaining the possibility that you could be wrong. It takes a big man to do that, and I'm glad you have the ability.

Jenny, I wish you nothing but the best of luck. If you need someone to talk to at all, I'm here.

Enochian, I'm glad to see that you've realized a fundamental truth about the human soul. It's a stepping stone in becoming wiser, I believe. Of course, again, my entire perception could be wrong, who knows.

Peace to you all.

Hi all,

first to answer our gurlie, the number of posts do not increase in the coffee shop. and to conclude i hope you really find a way out of this coz i know it really destroys you when the mind lives in a body it aint like. its like often you dream of having the body you would like etc and wish for a miracle....



well be blessed all,



Mystick

Enochian, I'm glad to see that you've realized a fundamental truth about the human soul. It's a stepping stone in becoming wiser, I believe. Of course, again, my entire perception could be wrong, who knows

Never doubt yourself my friend. You may change your perception as you learn. But we all have our own world(s) to live in and also a combination of everyone elses that has ever been.. What you or i percieve may not at all be what anyone else sees.