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DarK
post Jan 14 2007, 10:52 PM
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For the longest time, I've pursued the existance of "Vampirism" and have been proven that atleast psi vampires exist, as well as vampiric servitors and/or gods. But I've been reiterating about the actual fallacies of blood-sucking, sanguinarian, or other "immortal" vampires' existances.

Recently I had completely given up the fact that they could exist, simply due to logic and common sense, until I stumbled across this stupendous site:

Vampires

Scrolling down, one can find ample amounts of information on the subject of Vampirism - psi, sanguinarian, night-side, genetic, inherent, etc.

The author of the site claims to be a 64 or something year old Night-Side Vampiress who was "turned" by means of the V5 virus which is said to induce a state of "immortality"; thus whetting the need to drink blood to keep intact.

What else they claim is that they participate in the Government - that of the US especially.

Anyhow, I've ransacked their entire site in hopes to understand better and try to scrutinize the existance as a fallacy or truth, but have not succeeded, nevertheless, my pursuit will carry one. I also lurked around in the book store nearby and found many vampire and werewolf related books which stood attested to the phenomona.

Now I want to see what you believe to be true, all it would take are some open minds and thinkers, not 1-liners, but some suggestions, theories, thoughts, etc.

Do try to be convincing, and please share your thoughts on the subject.

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To Mods:

I know there is a "vampires" section, but I thought that to be way too eclectic in terms of discussing immortal vampires of this sense and the V5 virus, which is essential. I also chose a discreet topic on the V5 virus vampires alone only for better advertisement to gain more posts, especifically on this matter alone (with the exception of psi and sang vampires). And the third reason is to not wonder off the topic which was commenced due to the virtue of the particular site; whereas the other post about vampires makes not even the slightest touch on the site we will be discussing.

Please, allow this thread to cultivate and in desirous for new thoughts and concepts on the subject of "immortal vampirism" alone.

Thank You



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post Jan 14 2007, 11:11 PM
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The definition of the V5 virus:


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The main reason real vampirism is not more widely believed is the failure of the general public to understand exactly what the virus which produces the condition actually is, or how it functions. Most people do not understand, or believe, that human DNA can be altered in such a way as to produce such a being.

Actually, many things can alter a person's normal DNA. Drugs such as LSD and Thalidomide cause DNA changes and many viruses can change the DNA in a single gene. A combination of these altered genes can change the over all DNA of a living human.

The term 'vampire' as used on this site as a medical term, must be separated from the vampire myths. A Viral Vampire is an infected human. Though the DNA in the host human has been greatly altered, the organism remains human in the medical sense as the number of chromosomes has not been changed.

All humans, in fact the entire human race, have the same number of chromosomes. The number of chromosomes is what makes them human (except for those born with Down's Syndrome. These people have an extra chromosome but are, of course, human).




Technically the vampire is still a human, but for sake of discussion we think of viral vampires as non-human or as the next step up in human evolution. This is difficult to believe because many of the attributes of a vampire are, well, considered to be better and more developed than humans'. The strength, speed, enhanced mental and/or psychic abilities, the ability to digest human and other blood more efficiently are but a few of the differences. The reason this happens is the basic human DNA is altered by the virus. The virus, we call it V5 is NOT the same virus as HIV5. To simplify, it is transmitted through a simple infection.

This infection is gained either through birth or infection from one who has the virus and passes it on. The child inherits the infection, passed on from the mother or father. The parent may have picked up the virus from some other member of their family such as a cousin, aunt, brother, etc., and thus the infection is passed on to the newborn child. Rarely are both parents infected, i.e., vampires themselves. More often, they are carriers of the virus, in a similar manner to the way a red haired child is born to a family who, for several generations, have been all blond.

The passing of the virus to the child from the parent produces an Inheritor Vampire child. The V5 is passed on to the newborn much the same way the AIDS virus is passed from mother to child. In such a child, the virus remains dormant until the catalyst of the onset of puberty. The release of hormones is believed to activate the virus system.




The effects of the V5 virus then takes a number of years as the child develops to be completely effective, i.e., active in the system from its previously dormant state in the child's body. As in any infection, the child's immune system tries to fight off the infection, and in many cases, if not most, it succeeds. It is also believed that the blood chemical make up of the individual is also responsible in determining if the child will be fully affected by the virus and thus DNA altered. Not all infected people develop the vampire virus, V5, and thus not everyone born with it becomes a vampire.

That is why we are not hip deep in real Inheritor vampires. The only other way to become a vampire is to be given the infection by someone already infected. This would make the person, the subject, a Classical. As with Inheritors, it takes Classicals quite a long time to develop the full blown virus once infected due to the same reasons; blood chemistry make up and the immune system. Also, not everyone who is exposed to the virus by a Classical will be a viable host for the virus.

There is also a theory that a person has to be genetically predisposed to V5.






V5 is actually closely related to many other viruses such as the common flu virus and the AIDS virus. V5 is not the AIDS virus but works in much the same way as to infecting the host. Another reason the reality and cause of vampirism in today's modern world is not more widely believed is because not many members of the public or medical establishment know of the existence of V5.

Why don't they know of it? Because, like Ebola and other new illnesses such as the Flesh Eating Bacteria, which actually have not been named so far, as we do not know what they are as of this date. V5 has only been known for a relatively short time, many years to be sure, but in regard to other illnesses, a short time.

It has been many, many years now that several doctors in several parts of the USA and Europe have known about and been studying the V5 and its victims. The studies have been accomplished by long range, personal, one to one research with these infected people.

Why so secretive?

The same reason as with any other discovery. Once released, the doctors and researchers will gain money, fame and reputation. Not to mention grants, and the licensing of new drugs, etc. For the past few years, ImortalN and I have been telling people of the existence of the virus and explaining the ''what and why'' of this illness. We have compared it to other historical illnesses believed to be the cause of vampires in the past.

A few years ago, it was discovered that V5 is related to the AIDS virus. We began telling people then of an impending break through in a vaccine for AIDS. A vaccine for AIDS, discovered from the link to the vampire virus. During the month of June 1998, both NBC and ABC first gave the announcement of a new AIDS vaccine.

Just prior to that was released the news announcing a gene, newly discovered, that lengthened the life of a fruit fly by twice its normal life span. OK, laugh. It does sound funny, but it is most important. That gene, in an insect, was gained from gene mapping, isolating, and gene construction, and the same is possible and already being done with humans.




The V5 is accessed because of a special and rare gene some people have and which can be passed on through or by infection into a host. Next there will be further announcements of the life extension program already in effect for humans. Soon to follow, other announcements about gene splicing, genetic engineering and gene manipulation which had already been performed on lesser animals.

The DNA of a jellyfish was implanted into a developing mouse embryo. The result? The unification of 2 non-related creatures which resulted in a litter of healthy mice, which actually glowed in the dark, the way a jellyfish glows in the darkness of the depths of the sea. This segment of research was shown on nation television on the science program Nova several times during the years of 1997 and 1998.

Genetic mapping, and genetic coding of viruses will explain the V5 more fully to those not knowledgeable in medical or genetic terminology. Discovery of the V5 will make a huge difference when formally announced.

Think for a moment what the full impact of such ramifications would mean.




What would happen to the nation's, to the world's, population if vampires were proven to be real? Real, but not at all like the myths or legends.

First the fear. Vampires are stronger, faster, etc. They could easily take jobs. They tend to be smarter and more mentally adept, more psychic. Could they then dominate and control normal humans?

The hatred. Humans cannot even live with their own kind in peace. How can they live with actual vampires?

The envy, Vampires live longer, stay young looking longer. How many normal people would want to be able to do the same?

Population. So many of them and they live longer. Less housing, less food and what else would they use longer than normal people?

And what about the religious issues? The old church views are that all vampires are evil or in league with evil. How many righteous people would like to see them dead? How many hunters would like to see them dead? (See Real Hunters link elsewhere on this site)

The government would want them for soldiers and laborers and so would other countries. Not to mention forcibly studying them like lab animals.

What about the vampire himself/herself? Their safety gone, it is exposed, people who fear, hate or admire it, and all now know the vampire truly exists.

How does society cope with something that it has been told for a millennium does not exist?

How does the world establishment tell the populous of the existence of something believed to be myth and evil?


How do they integrate a newly identified species into the human community?


Very, very slowly and carefully.




To understand how DNA is altered by virus, we shall now look at normal genetic coding. Genetic code The ability to use more than one codon to specify a particular amino acid requires many different (mRNA) as many amino acids as there are triplets. The corresponding number of codon synonyms and (tRNA) results in the correspondence in (mRNA) transcription. The attraction between the (tRNA) and the triplets of the (mRNA) depends on the corresponding codon and the anticodon. The degeneration of the code has a pattern for all amino acids that have 2, 3, or 4 synonyms for the first 2 bases, one or more triplets.

There may be a question as to where the triplets overlap.

Example: a sequence of AUGGUGG Where a non overlapping code 2 amino acids, methioine (AUG) and prypothan (UGG) or could this really be 4 amino acids? Methioine (AUG), cysteiniel (UGU), valine (GUG), and tryptophaine (UGG)? Really bad problems can come from over lapping sequence AAU and AAC which may then read as AAUAAAC. This code could not be followed by methioine because the overlapping codon which resets UGA is a terminator codon.

It was once believed that any one particular codon that specified an amino acid meant the same acid in all organisms. But it has been noted that there are exceptions in humans; to note these exceptions, go to the genetic code. Each (tRNA) molecule has 2 important functions.


1.To attach itself to a certain amino acid

2.To place the acid in its proper place in the protein.


To do both jobs a sort of relocation site must exist in the (tRNA). The anticodon is the compliment of a certain messenger in the (mRNA).




Before you can understand what the vampire virus is and how it works, it is necessary to understand a bit of genetics and virus in general.

Why?

Because the vampire virus is closely related to, or you might say a cousin to, both the flu and the AIDS virus or to more properly say, related to the virus which goes on to cause HIV in humans. This statement simply means V5 is a retro-virus. The things which makes it so difficult to believe, and in fact is why most cannot believe in the existence of the vampire virus, is the lack of general understanding of how the v-virus can and does alter the human DNA to permit the vampire symptoms and maladies to take effect on the once human body. Most people do not believe the human DNA can be so drastically altered.

This is a strange problem, since all retro viruses (except for perhaps some bacteria which are, of course, not viruses) and one form of RNA, viruses do most commonly change the cell DNA and take over the individual cell's original DNA. It commonly occurs in the flu virus and in the HIV virus, both of which are related to the V5 virus.

To better understand how this virus works and how genetics plays a part in the inherited factors, we must first look at the basics of human genetic coding and regular and retro viruses.

Those of you who have already had this in class, will see this is basic text book stuff found in any source for the study of genes or genetic coding. You have already read the above basics of genetic coding and how important the sequence of amino acids and bases are to the virus and its function in a cell.




Genetic coding is the means by which hereditary traits are passed from one human, or other species, on to another of its own kind in birth. Genetic code is the exact chemical equation by which the information making heredity is passed on from the genes to the proteins such as hemoglobin or pepsin. These and other proteins are the ladder which structures the human body. Enliens, pollypeptides, and hormones all serve to regulate these chemical reactions in the body. Chromosomes are located in the Nucleic Acids.

The DNA or RNA of each Gene is responsible for making the Protein involved in the development of each trait. Species allow Genes to have the same effect on all its members in the same manner and so effect all its members from generation to generation of that species.

The codon is the main unit. The Codon is involved with the structure of nucleic acid. Both DNA and RNA are composed of a special sequence of individual units called nucleotides. Each nucleotide consists of three smaller units, a phosphate, a slayer, and a base.




There are 4 types of Base in DNA. Adenine, Guanine, Cytosine are double rings called PURINES and the last component Thymine, is a single ring component called Pyrimidines in RNA. Uracilis is pyrimidine in RNA, wherever Thymine would be found in DNA. The key is the bases, and how they are arranged, and in which sequence in a chain of single strand of (rnRNA) or DNA.

There are 20 different amino acids in proteins but only 4 bases. Nucleotide bases that is. This provides for 4x4x4 different and specific bases, 64 codons. There are more combinations actually but these are all we need to look at right now to realize the structure can be greatly varied as to acids and bases. With the exception of 3 of the 64 codons, each specifies one of the 20 amino acids in the proteins.

Most acids have more than one codon but some have triplets as we have previously seen. The codons which specify are known as the synonyms for the amino acid. During the bonding the protein transfers to the genes the information. This occurs in 2 parts, transcription and translation. The transcription acts as the triplet on which the RNA pollynuecliotide chain, called the messenger RNA (mRNA).




The messenger carries the genetic code from the acids to the cell's nucleus, to the nucleus of the ribosomes in the cytoplasms of the cell. During the transcription (mRNA) is attached to the ribosomes which are sections of three actual proteins. (mRNA) CODON determines the sequence of amino acid in the protein. Synthesis each acid is connected to the ribosomes molecule of transcription. (tRNA) which has, in its nucleus, a sequence of three nucleotide bases. Contained in an anticodon, and is complementary to a particular codon in the (tRNA). An attraction hydrogen binding helps alter the RNA and (mRNA). During this bonding a particular amino acid is transferred to the polypeptide chain.

Doctors originally thought that only one strand, the sense strand, of a double strand DNA contained the actual gene transcription into the RNA directly. The other strand, the antisense strand, was believed to function only as a replication. But this has now changed. It has since been learned that in some cases both strands are transcribed. This is considered a newer break through, something not known a number of years ago. Whichever antisense RNA is transcribed into protein or remains as RNA and may be a regulator to the sequence.

This is believed but has not been officially established.

In order for the Acid chain to be divided into sequence, each has to have a specific message signal showing the beginning and end of each sequence. (mRNA) contains a special codon at both ends of this message, one that initiates and one that ends the transcription of the Code. The triplet for the methioine (AUG) is the initiator codon for the protein synthesis. When first formed, polypeptide chains have methinomine as the first amino acid.

During the transcription process or after the protein chain is completed some changes are usually made by the cellular entyines, and these form the foundation protein. One of these changes is sometimes the removal of methioine. There are 2 types of cells, eukarotic and prorkryotic. The difference is prorkryotic cells don't have a nucleus and rarely have a membrane. Both have DNA codons called nonsense codons such as UAA, UAG, or UGA ... carry anticodons and cannot be transcribed. (mRNA) codon is found in the messenger.




Virus


A virus is a living organism, a life form.

It invades and takes over human cells. The virus invades a cell, kills it or changes the DNA of that cell and replaces the uninfected cells with replications of its own kind. As it replaces the normal cells or changes the DNA in the existing cell, it takes over the function of that cell. The body fights to kill or destroy these cells, if it fails the body can become ill and eventually die from this invasion, called an infection.

There are 2 kinds of viruses, virus and retrovirus. A retrovirus stores genetic material as RNA instead of DNA in the cells.

Remember that the flu is a virus which contains itself in a protein sphere, waiting for its release when you are more likely to be more confined in the winter months. In the summer although, the flu is also susceptible but one is more likely to be out in the open and less likely to be confined in an area. Thus, spread of this virus through coughing, nasal spray, and contact is more likely during the winter.

In a retrovirus mainly the genetic material RNA is incorporated into the host cell. Then the virus takes over the function of the cell and in many cases changes or alters the DNA of the host cell while replicating itself. Each time the host cell divides it makes an exact and complete new copy of the new DNA along with its own genes. There are hundreds of viruses, the common flu is a virus as is HIV and LAV which are cousins to the v-virus but manufactures itself in much the same way.




HIV


Human Immune Deficiency Virus (HIV) is a retrovirus.

A type of a virus that stores genetic information as RNA rather than as DNA. When the virus enters a targeted host cell, it releases its RNA and then makes DNA using the viral RNA as a pattern. The viral DNA then is incorporated into the host cell DNA. Each time a host cell divides, it also makes a new copy of the integrated viral DNA along with its own genes. The viral DNA can take over the functions of the cell, become activated, causing the cell to produce new virus particles.

These new viruses are released from the infected cell to invade other cells. The DNA and RNA factor is the difference between the retrovirus and virus. The vampire virus works in much the same way but does not go on to destroy the immune system. Instead it is coded to replace regular genetic material and alter it in such a way as to cause physical changes in the actual function of several aspects of the human body such as in digestion, slower aging, increased physical strength, mental capacity, etc.

The Genetic Code has certain characteristics which determine how and under what conditions coding is to be read. The sequence of a nucleotide base is to be read in certain sequences which show the determination of the formations of the cell. Most amino acids in proteins- and there are over 20 of them- have at least 2 codons, however some have as many as 6.

In a situation in which 2 or more codon words have the same meaning is called a degenerative code. The ability to use more than one codon to specify a particular amino acid requires many different (tRNA) as many amino acids as there are triplets. The correspondents of the number of codons synonyms and (tRNA) results in the correspondence in (mRNA ) transcription. The attraction between the (tRNA) and the triplets of the (mRNA) depends on the correspondents codon and the anticodon. The degeneration of the code has a pattern for all amino acids that have 2, 3, or 4 synonyms for the first 2 bases one or more triplets.




In Summary


Genetic coding is the means by which heredity is passed from one human species to another member of that species or any Species in fact. Genetic code is the exact chemical equation by which the information making heredity is passed on from the genes to the proteins such as hemoglobin or pepsin.

These and other proteins are the ladder which structures the human body. Enliens and pollypeptides, hormones, regulate these chemical reactions in the body. To understand more of how V5 acts to change the human cell structure in the human body we need to remember just how HIV works on the body. The human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) is a retrovirus, a type of virus that stores genetic information as RNA rather than as DNA. When the virus enters a targeted host cell, it releases its RNA and then makes DNA using the viral RNA as a pattern. The viral DNA then is incorporated into the host cell DNA.

Each time a host cell divides, it also makes a new copy of the integrated viral DNA along with its own genes. The viral DNA can take over the functions of the cell, become activated, causing the cell to produce new virus particles. These new viruses are released from the infected cell to invade other cells. The DNA and RNA factor is the difference between the retrovirus and virus. In a similar manner does V5 also slowly take over the function of the cells while replicating itself. Definition: similarly affect the cell DNA of the infected vampire.




The medical and scientific community will make slowly released announcements in approximately the following order. Release to the general public announcements which have already been made on the TV show nova regarding gene mapping, gene splicing.

Then the release of a newly discovered or mapped gene found to prolong life, a prelude to this announcement was just accomplished on NBC and ABC recent television broadcasts.

Next announcements on a human life extension program, which it has already done but taking another direction as can be found in the site links elsewhere on the main page of this site. The announcement of a vaccine- not a cure- but a prevention of AIDS, which was released on NBC and ABC in June 1998.

Next shall come the announcement of the newly discovered virus which in itself lead to the Aids / HIV Vaccine. And then the announcement of the V5 virus itself. Then finally how V5 lead to the break through for HIV cure and then how the research was actually conducted. Finally telling the world about those people the research was conducted upon. Those actual, living, genuine vampires.

To get the proof you all seek so desperately all you need do is wait for this time line to play itself out. Its that simple.

How long will all this take? I do not know.

The prediction is three to six years as the time line goes.

Not long to wait really.




Now how does all this relate to the prophecies?

(SEE PROPHECIES LINK ELSEWHERE ON THIS SITE)


As you read over the prophecies, think of what happens if the vampires do not want this information getting out. Suppose there is a differing of opinion in the overall world wide vampire communities; for the sake of discussion lets say 50 percent of the vampire population felt this information should not be released as the end result would inevitably lead to a vaccine for V5 as well as Aids. If this occurred what could it mean to the vampiric world?

The vaccine I speak of is NOT the HIV vaccine, or the segment known as HIV5, but could be produced as a derivative of the same.


1. A vaccine, used as part of an Aids preventive, will one day be given to all children under the age of five probably included in their normal childhood shots.


These human children grow into adults and some will become volunteers for vampire feeding.

The vampires who feed upon this blood ingest the antibodies for the V5 as well since V5 was used in its manufacture. Or that there is also simply a vaccine for V5 given to all children to prevent their being infected once it is believed and understood that real and actual vampires exist. Now the vampire ingests this medically treated blood and the antibodies in the volunteers blood begins to activate on the vampire. If his/her DNA is altogether changed, it is only the virus taking over the cell functions which is keeping it alive.

To destroy that virus at this stage, or for the vaccine to affect the vampire DNA at a later date, could mean killing the V5, hence killing the host, death to the vampire itself.

With the general population so vaccinated there is much less of a food source for the vampire and competition for the remaining available unvaccinated humans becomes fierce.


2. The information about the vampire can also lead to hunters making weapons to kill the vampire more easily and efficiently. Why then would a vampire want this information to go to the general public?


Without a cure for AIDS, in very little relative time many, many millions of humans will die, disturbing the balance of nature. Both their own relation to the environment and the human balance relation to the vampire.

Many vampires feel this natural balance should not be altered, It is a prevailing belief that humans must be saved to preserve the natural balance and order of the planet and therefore it is most necessary to help cure AIDS.

Many vampires feel it is inevitable that humans will one day find the vampire virus and thus a vaccine for it. It is the hope of the vampires that human kind can be taught to coexist and in so doing may find a way to help the vampire survive.

On one hand we have those who wish no knowledge given out. Let the humans die of AIDS or anything else, it is natural selection. Then there are the others. 'NO! we must preserve the natural balance at all costs.'

Now reread the prophecies, perhaps they will now make more sense to you. The truth is vampires are indeed real, they are a product of an ages old inherited virus which alters DNA and creates the differences. These kinds and type of genetically caused illnesses are well known today and new viruses are being discovered all the time.




V5 is an ancient illness only now coming into the light of modern day. Its form and reasons are simple and easily understood by anyone with an open mind and willingness to wait for the medical proof to be announced. It will indeed be made known and no doubt disputed at first.


But, in the end, the vampire will be nearly as common as the human.


The new question then being, if the human cannot live peaceably with its own kind how can there be the needed balance between the human and vampire?


And will either species allow the other to exist at all?




THERE HAS BEEN MUCH ARGUMENT
ABOUT THE VIRUS CALLED V5.




There are many claims that V5 is bogus and part of the plot of a British TV series called Ultra Violet which was aired in both Britain and the United States via the SciFi Channel. The problem is, V5 has either coincidentally or purposefully been lumped in to a series of fictional viruses and illnesses.

The retro-virus I write about is commonly known as V5 (pronounced 'VEE FIVE'), it is NOT Code V (on the TV show it is pronounced Code 'FIVE' not Code 'vee'), K-17, G-17, or Stem Alpha. These are names of fictitious virus and bacterial infections. I don't know where these other names came from. K-17 is the name of the bacterial infection used as a fictional plot device in the British TV show called 'Ultraviolet'. The actual name of the V5 virus is not publicly known and is difficult to pronounce. V5 is what it has been commonly called since at least 1985, prior to the creation of the show 'Ultraviolet' in 1998.

Did it ever occur to anyone that the TV show 'Ultraviolet' took the idea of an infection and the information available on the Internet about a real virus, changed it from a virus to a fictitious bacterial infection and based their plot device loosely on that, plus the use of ultraviolet light to kill vampires? Which was also used years ago in a film about vampires based in Mexico. Neither 'Ultraviolet' nor viruses are new to vampire fiction.

According to a BBC web site 'Ultraviolet' is a fictional miniseries. Here's a brief quote of what the site says.

"Ultraviolet is a stylish, modern thriller set in London in the 20th Century, where a secret war is being waged between humans and vampires. It was released by Channel 4 in the UK in 1998."

The words Code V1, or just plain Code V, (This would be pronounced 'CODE FIVE1 or just CODE FIVE not CODE 'VEE') are used on the show to designate vampires or anything having to do with vampires. It does not, I repeat, NOT have anything to do with an infectious virus and is not the name of the bacterial infection in the TV show that made the vampires ... vampires. That is K-17.

The author of the Code V (CODE FIVE) site in question, does not give his name, does not give the web master's name and does not have an email address or phone number listed for questions or further information. All there is, is a Guestbook with questions and remarks. To my knowledge, none of them are privately answered. Someone I do not know, asked within the pages of that Guestbook if my site was a hoax due to the term V5 and the fact that I give medical information. The CODE FIVE site states that many sites went up and listed Code V (CODE FIVE) and K-17 as being real and publishing a lot of the copywritten fictional medical information claiming it all was real. This person's CODE V site states all those sites were closed down by the producers of the TV show 'Ultraviolet'. My site, which is known as, VampiricStudies, and NOT to be confused with the CODE FIVE site, has medical information. Because of this, some woman mentions my site in the Guestbook and asks if it is one of the hoax sites. No response was given to her publicly in the Guestbook.

I know this is very confusing. Between Code V (CODE FIVE) and V5 (VEE 5). This is because the TV show uses the Roman Numeral V which means 'five' as in CODE FIVE -not Code V. My site states the virus designation as V5 which means the letter V as in Victor - the alphabetic V and the number 5. Gosh, it's even confusing me!! LOL. If all this is giving you a headache, just remember V5 is a virus, Code FIVE written as Code V is the fiction. V5 is not a hoax.

Either it's purely coincidence or they purposefully took information that was available 13 years before they wrote 'Ultraviolet' and changed it a little. You can believe what you want to believe but V5 (VEE 5) exists. It is real, it is not a hoax. I've added a site URL to this notice where you can go and read about the show 'Ultraviolet'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/alabaster/A590843

The first of the sites to claim V5 was a hoax appeared a few years ago. It was allegedly written by someone who claims to have been part of the production company of UltraViolet. The site itself is very well done and believable. However, it is not written by anyone connected with that TV show. It was written by a woman in the United States, who lumped all those other fictional names together, then added the actual V5. The other sites that took up the claim of hoax were all primarily based on this one site. And, as you will see, it is not the site which I have given you from the BBC. I would give you the URL for the other site but I can no longer find it.

I believe one of the readers of my site said it best when she said. ''Regardless if it's called V5 or 'Fruity Slurpie 7' it's still the virus''


As ever,
Catherene / NightPoe


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I've been considering creating a seeker servitor with telepathic and clairvoyant powers, with the goal to seek out these immortal vampires and bring me information about them. It's an experiment, may work may not, I'll have to fiddle around with some servitors until I can make a good one and have it spy on the vampies.

Until then I hope I can get some opinions on this, it's quite interesting to me, nothing is impossible.

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Greetings 'DeathStalker,

Ever the skeptic I am. I would have zero faith in anything occult for example if I had not seen it work so effectively time and time again. In my humble opinion vampiring should be used as a tool by an enlightened occultist as a source of unlimited power. Done successfully it will slow the aging process. Example if I shave I can not buy cigarettes without id. I look quite young for 33. I have met plenty of Sang and Psi vampires and I have met enough posers to make me sick to my stomach. My favorite example of a poser is a guy who calls himself Slimblaze and had people actually believing that he was a real vampire. Until to his dismay I exposed him for the fraud he was. Ever ready to slap an a$$holes head around backwards as I am he could not oppose me.

I see these people building these web sites also like the one you are referring to. They always start out by saying don't ask me to meet a real vampire etc blah blah. Kinda like a disclaimer.

Let me tell you I try to be as real as real can be. If I was an immortal vampire for example I would rip off George Bush's head and take a nice crap down his neck. If its real then why the disclaimer?

Certainly I do not know everything. I have been around the vampire block enough times until I like to think that I know the neighborhood pretty well though. I have met some powerful individuals but they were few and far between. I have met a hoard of life stylers who treat it like an RPG game. This to me is a sick perversion of something sacred. I wish people would get real and stop heaping up piles of bull$hit. sometimes u need to wear waders to climb through it.

I think it distracts from the truth and is harmful to the Vampiric community as a whole to have a bunch of posers running around making claims. Don't build me a web site posers. Jump off a building and let me watch you fly. Then I will believe. These people seriously irritate me to the point where I wish there was a different terminology to separate what true vamps are from these phony life stylers.

Again I don.t know everything and anything is possible. For all we know the Loch Ness Monster and Big Foot are smoking a joint together right now. I think sometimes we believe things which appeal to us because we want it to be true.

I don't want to offend you and if you wanna explore possibilities thats cool. I am just saying be on the look out for bull$hit because usually you step in it before you smell the stench.

Peace

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QUOTE(Edunpanna @ Jan 16 2007, 11:42 PM) *
Greetings 'DeathStalker,

Ever the skeptic I am. I would have zero faith in anything occult for example if I had not seen it work so effectively time and time again. In my humble opinion vampiring should be used as a tool by an enlightened occultist as a source of unlimited power. Done successfully it will slow the aging process. Example if I shave I can not buy cigarettes without id. I look quite young for 33. I have met plenty of Sang and Psi vampires and I have met enough posers to make me sick to my stomach. My favorite example of a poser is a guy who calls himself Slimblaze and had people actually believing that he was a real vampire. Until to his dismay I exposed him for the fraud he was. Ever ready to slap an a$$holes head around backwards as I am he could not oppose me.

I see these people building these web sites also like the one you are referring to. They always start out by saying don't ask me to meet a real vampire etc blah blah. Kinda like a disclaimer.

Let me tell you I try to be as real as real can be. If I was an immortal vampire for example I would rip off George Bush's head and take a nice crap down his neck. If its real then why the disclaimer?

Certainly I do not know everything. I have been around the vampire block enough times until I like to think that I know the neighborhood pretty well though. I have met some powerful individuals but they were few and far between. I have met a hoard of life stylers who treat it like an RPG game. This to me is a sick perversion of something sacred. I wish people would get real and stop heaping up piles of bull$hit. sometimes u need to wear waders to climb through it.

I think it distracts from the truth and is harmful to the Vampiric community as a whole to have a bunch of posers running around making claims. Don't build me a web site posers. Jump off a building and let me watch you fly. Then I will believe. These people seriously irritate me to the point where I wish there was a different terminology to separate what true vamps are from these phony life stylers.

Again I don.t know everything and anything is possible. For all we know the Loch Ness Monster and Big Foot are smoking a joint together right now. I think sometimes we believe things which appeal to us because we want it to be true.

I don't want to offend you and if you wanna explore possibilities thats cool. I am just saying be on the look out for bull$hit because usually you step in it before you smell the stench.

Peace



I guess that could make sense too.

I've also read many books on vampirism: "Monsters, Vampires; the occult truth, Vampires, Werewolves, many online pages", and they all claim the immortal vampire to be a complete fallacy, yet the psi to be real.

I have also stumbled upon poser sites such as "otherkin.net" which are replete with schizophrenics who are in such high hopes of being who and what they wish to be that they start to believing in such illusions.

I used to know a girl who I thought I was meant to be it, and after she started to "trust" me, she told me that she was a Vampire. I, of course, believed her with no question, she didn't know anything about magic or the occult, and she would base her heaven and hell beliefs on Christianity. She told me that she could hear the cell phone in many rooms away, she couldn't stay much long under the sun, she could smell blood within the body, and that she would die had she not have blood.

Judging by her pictures: pale skin, vampiric seducer look.

I have not spoken with her for the last 14 months or more, last I heard, she had "transformed" into a fullbreed and forgotten her past, she mentioned a virus of some sort but I never paid much attention to it, given my implicit trust and belief. She would say that a full breed and full blood were different, and a half-breed like her could not become one or the other. I'd have to do research on this, many other vampires I spoke to had attested to this as being liable, but I've not done profound research on this matter. All which concerns me is this V5 virus, I'd never heard of its existance 'til recently.

Now lets review my beliefs of what causes me to believe and have dis-belief:

Why I believe?

1. First off, I'm too open-minded and adventurous, enough to somehow become bedazzled by such matters.
2. The girl who I loved over the "internet" made claims she never backed off from, which caused me to believe moreso (as I had known her for 2 years prior to her leave).
3. Blood is the flow of the life force and deemed essential for life, hence why I believed vampirism to be very real, immortality? maybe, younger looks? Definately. I did research and found that blood could actually cause the skin to look young and not old, which may, thus, prolong the life.
4. The fact we do not hear of them could very well be the fact they do a great job of hiding from the public, which would make sense.
5. The credibility of the V5 virus which I shall do more research on.

Why I dis-believe?

1. Of course, the fact that I've never heard of nor seen one.
2. In all books I've read, the immortal vampire was claimed to had been confused with either: a) dead corpse, b) psychic vampire, c) astral junk or demon, d) Dracula, Elizabeth Bathory, or other phenomona.
3. The fact they claim to be so old, yet have not the wisdom they should have at the very age. Ever immortal vamprie I've heard of has acted either his/her age or younger, never as old as claimed: no extra languages, no extra knowledge, no extra wisdom.
4. If elders after the age of 65 usually don't care much about life, as physical life has a tendency to become trite after a while, then why do not these 100+ year old vampires not get tired of life and seek to move on?
5. Why would a couple hundred year old vampire still be a Christian? Would they not have assembled the wisdom to have the knowledge of an afterlife? And the fact that the devil is but a scapegoat? (Site states that most vampires are Christian, Islam is next).
6. Why would these vampires not have learnt the secrets of the occult to perfect their skills by all the years they've lived? Their age sure seems not what they claim.
7. They'd found vampires in the past who looked young but were 60+ NOT 100, perhaps these same people with the virtue of young looks had claimed they were immortal vampires? Or that the excessive blood had caused them to look younger than they would, just as a good diet and sleep would, and they had come to be dependant to the blood just as people become dependant on habits such as smoking and drinking etc.
8. Why would they partake in the US government? Are vampires not old enough to know what the hell the government is up to? Doing all the research I've done, my common sense tells me that a vampire would be an outcast and anarchist.

As you said, even a half-brained retard can create a site, these facts should not be negated. Simply put, anyone can have an obsession with something they deem real, or choose to believe, and thence, form a strong thesis to back their statements up.

Anyways there you have it, my beliefs and dis-beliefs. I'll have to do research on this V5 virus and other probabilities.

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the madness of king john

its the curse of the bloodline of the grail (the secret behind the secret) - it is in those who govern, or or behind the government, with dna lines dating back to children of the anunaki-born abraham of the enki side ; ) - full blood's can't make an enzyme or or succeptible to the virus which causes them to not be able to make the enzyme anymore (like scarlet fever) - they also are psychological vampires, using the power taking from their victims for mind-control so their subjects don't rebel - they need war for the blood and suffering for their bellies

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I can find nothing in the akashic record to indicate the existence of this V5 virus. I'm not sure I'd be able to come up with a physical location of an individual with the virus if it did exist, but figuring out whether or not a concept has a physical counterpart is not all that difficult, nor determining the scope or nature of the manifestation.

That's my two cents. There are lots of people, making lots of claims out there, most of them are full of it. Some do it altruistically after a fashion, to spread dissent and wonder amongst the populace, and make people question their reality. The more people who question, the less certain reality becomes, so it's a good cause.

However, there are oddities on earth's physical plane, entities who occult themselves into obscurity and put a great deal of rumor and hearsay between themselves and the populace at large. I believe their presence to be the source of various modern day myths and rumors, from the Lizard people to Vampires. What the truth is, is anyone's guess. I can sense their existence in the earth's consciousness, but that's as far as it goes. Could be the illuminati for all I know. I do not believe them to be alien entities, however, due to the nature of their connection to the consciousness of mankind.

that's my two cents.

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I was going through this forum when your post caught my eye.
The V-5 Virus and any and all similar viruses happen to be hoaxes. I've been a long time member of the vampire community (learning from the best and helping along, just never gnawing on someone's neck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) and this came out at around '95 (I believe).

Where did it comes from? It all stems from a 6-part mini-series from the UK. Though, it does now sound more like the virus from the movie/comic book "Ultraviolet"
After the myth was dispelled, the communities never mentioned it again.

Here's a few links for you: http://v5.gq.nu/
http://www.vampyresociety.org/

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QUOTE(Neserit @ Jan 17 2007, 08:43 PM) *
I was going through this forum when your post caught my eye.
The V-5 Virus and any and all similar viruses happen to be hoaxes. I've been a long time member of the vampire community (learning from the best and helping along, just never gnawing on someone's neck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) ) and this came out at around '95 (I believe).

Where did it comes from? It all stems from a 6-part mini-series from the UK. Though, it does now sound more like the virus from the movie/comic book "Ultraviolet"
After the myth was dispelled, the communities never mentioned it again.

Here's a few links for you: http://v5.gq.nu/
http://www.vampyresociety.org/


Thanks for the links I'll check them out and read them.

The authors to some of these sites seem so believable, it's just amazing.

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I've been on and off about the existance of these immortal vampires for so long, it's really getting annoying, perhaps I have a too-much-use-of-internet-and-believe-everything syndrom.

I can't help it, I believe everything.

But here is another thing I've thought about which may be true...

What if?

A psychic vampire manages to take up life in the astral by means of vampirising people for energy, and has shapeshifting abilities, and skilled in the astral so much so that he/she can manifest into more physical matter (this has been the case with shapeshifters and werewolves).

I've heard that once the physical body is cremated, the chance of the astral body staying in the etheric realm is slim to none. The reason they say this is because they claim that the physical body is a direct link to the astral body of the vampire, but I have not found much evidence for this to be true.

If the above is true than the Temple of the Vampire which strive for immortality in the next realm are just screwed over. (They happen to be an interesting group too).

In the case above, the vampire can shapeshift to have wings, fangs, or whatever he/she needed, and garlic would not be good in the presence of the vampire, for garlic and holy water are offenders of etheric energy.

Perhaps there have been psi vampires using their etheric and psychic abilities and have been confused with physical creatures?

After all, the body does not age in the astral.

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I have not had time to read the entire thread yet. But they exist. The reason it can always be argued is because a vampyric trait is to travel like a shaman, dreamer or whatever except in the physical sense as well. This makes it easy to explain away.


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QUOTE(Enochian @ Jan 18 2007, 10:31 AM) *
I have not had time to read the entire thread yet. But they exist. The reason it can always be argued is because a vampyric trait is to travel like a shaman, dreamer or whatever except in the physical sense as well. This makes it easy to explain away.


Well if you've read about the werewolf and other shapeshifter tribes, anything is possible. They can literally take form via a more physical form of astral travel; what many call etheric travel, and they can shapeshift into anything they like, and literally make changes in the physical via energy - it's also how psychokinetics work. I believe they require a strong aura for such things.

Most westerners are not aware of this, though Indian tribes in North America and Canada are well aware of the secrets, some more are known amongst the vudon and south-eastern asians such as the tibetian monks.

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Now were talking up my alley. Tibetan anything. They are capable of some amazing things themselves.


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QUOTE(Enochian @ Jan 18 2007, 04:46 PM) *
Now were talking up my alley. Tibetan anything. They are capable of some amazing things themselves.


In the future I want to travel there, including many other places, in virtue of gaining some knowledge that are left out in the bookstores. I have etheric shapeshifting in mind, I may exchange something in rewards of that knowledge, who knows.

With etheric projection so much is possible, it's not well understood for the same reasons as it's feared, thus shunned.

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