A really lucid dream Options

Well, I was frustrated few wees ago because when I was little I was able to fly in my dreams and now I can't. It seems that my frustration was good in a way. In one of my dreams I was telling myself 'It cannot be so hard to fly...I'm sure I can do it'. And I did it; I jumped really high, then I felt myself flying.
Unfortunately, I think I was too lucid.
I realised in my dream that I was lucid and it was a high possibility to wake up. Then I realised that I realised that I was lucid...so I woke up. At least I got the chance to remember that great feeling of being like a bird.

I find affirmations to be really useful when it comes to dream experiences.

For instance, I'll tell myself 'calm down NOW' a couple of times after realizing I am in the dream state - to avoid the 'lucidity rush', as I call it - followed by a couple of 'increase lucidity NOW!'. It works wonders (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

I have read about similar flying dreams in 'Techniques for the Awakening of the Consciousness' by Samael Aun Weor (I came by this booklet at a local Gnostics Society meeting). The lucid dream you describe is similar to the astral experience whereby the aware sleeper is able to leave the physical form, roam in the astral and then return to the physical body.

Sadly the booklet is translated from spanish and the translation is not brilliant so its a big of a trial to read. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)

I had a fun one.

I was riding a flying bicycle. This might not sound so strange in a dream - except for the fact that I knew I could fly on my own. I paused, thinking, "Wait... if I can fly, why am I riding a flying bicycle? There's no need to, given I could go at the same speed on or off."

So I hopped off the bike, and took a really, really close look at the grass. I could make out the individual blades with perfect clarity, so I looked at a nearby tree, and could make out all the detail on the bark. Pausing again, I thought, "This is very strange - it's very likely I'm dreaming... but I'll go with it for the moment."

About five minutes later I woke up, at which point I suddenly said "B****! I knew I was dreaming!"

Lucid dreaming's fun.

Sometimes is fun, but when two crows are trying to destroy your chakras (the ones on the neck and the top of the head areas), and they really mess them up, because there's blood involved...that's not funny.
I didn't understand though why my head was like a triangle, but that's only one of the many things unclear from that dream. I knew it was a lucid dream, but I was to bored and lazy (even in a dream, that's outrageous! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fie.gif) ) to even try to fly a little bit.

Crown and Throat? That's odd...

I am very interested in lucid dreaming myself. I'm not sure what to make of my own experiences. Can you explain what this felt like: "I realised in my dream that I was lucid and it was a high possibility to wake up" ? How did you know? How was your mind working?

Angel, I might just put together a tutorial on it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Well, go ahead. I am here for sharing... as much as can be shared. And the way I see it... only pesonal experiences can actually be shared. I've read a little bit about other people's experiences... and I've noticed that they all describe it (lucid dreaming) in pretty much the same way... it's just the intensity and the duration that differs... let's say their experience in the field... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) so what is your personal experience on this, Zahaqiel (another angel)?

This post has been edited by Angel: Apr 21 2005, 02:21 AM

Well, after the weird dream with the crows, the worst week came for me. At least I found out that the demon Raum sometimes appears as a crow, but I don't think that he decided to make fun of me in that dream. I guess it was just my subconscious doing his job, whatever that is.

Angel said
"Can you explain what this felt like: "I realised in my dream that I was lucid and it was a high possibility to wake up" ? How did you know? How was your mind working?"
My mind usually works in ways that are unknown to common people like myself, in another words, she does whatever she wants (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) . Joking.
In that dream I simply knew that I was dreaming and it was a lucid dream and it was a high posibillity to wake up. It's not such a rare feeling, and I think everybody felt that at least once in their sleep.

Geegee, can I ask what the phase of the moon is where you are? (or more specifically, when you had the dream?) I'm just doing an interesting thought experiment.

Angel, I'm just going to get together my mind a bit, before I start on laying down a proper method of doing it - it'll get it's own thread though, so you won't miss it.

Phase of the moon? All I know is that I had the dream on 16th of April. And I'm not growing hair on my chest...yet. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) Oh, the location is Bucharest, Romania

This post has been edited by Geegee: Apr 21 2005, 06:32 AM

lol. No, I was just wondering whether the moon was waxing or waning. It was waxing - so probably no connection.

Have you tried any protective spells?

There was a large room... people who looked like nomal people were attending some sort of weird show... weird in the sense that I couldn't understand anything about it... everything was aqward... it felt like a completly different reality. I knew I was dreaming and I also knew I wasn't supposed to be there so I was trying to get out. There was something about that show that was so out of our world that it scared me and it hurt me. I remember what it felt like even today, many many years after it happened. This hapaned in my childhood, something like 21-23 years ago so the only way I can explain it's still powerful presence in my mind, is the fact that it was actually real. Children having the ability to dream and all... well, I ask myself now... in orther to regain that ability must we not give up entire parts of our so-called mature beings? What do you think? Can we actually have lucid dreams without giving up parts of our reality as it is today... by this I mean, without giving up many of the things that have been "put" inside of us in the meanwhile?

In that dream I simply knew that I was dreaming and it was a lucid dream and it was a high posibillity to wake up. It's not such a rare feeling, and I think everybody felt that at least once in their sleep.

Geegee (what a weird name:)), I feel just the way you said, I simply know I am awake, and it usually lasts for a short while. But what I'm trying to detemine here is wether you and I have the same way of knowing we're in a dream, the same way of perceiving that. How do I know for sure that I'm not imagining things?

Zahaqiel (isn't Hahaiah the angel of lucid dreaming?), I've noticed the moon's influence over me, what do you make of it. I belive that when the moon is rising, dreams come easyer.

This post has been edited by Angel: Apr 23 2005, 03:05 AM

I have no idea. My lunar-phase theory got blown out of the water last night, when an othersider decided to open my bedroom door and wander in to see if he could get a message across to me (and I still have no idea what exactly it was trying to tell me).

Hahaiah, I think, is an angel of mysteries, much like Raphael and Raziel.

Protective spells...well, it's kind of hard for me to actually do a spell, or to make a shield, because the superficial part of me will laugh and laugh.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rofl.gif) I 'm still trying to figure out if the occult fits me. That's why I'm wondering if all my recent dreams aren't just influenced by what I read during the day.

I can understand that. I'm still trying to lead a normal life with crazy things that shouldn't exist attempting to grab my attention every now and then.

Words of Angel:
"Geegee (what a weird name:)), I feel just the way you said, I simply know I am awake, and it usually lasts for a short while. But what I'm trying to detemine here is wether you and I have the same way of knowing we're in a dream, the same way of perceiving that. How do I know for sure that I'm not imagining things?"

I think it's a universal way of knowing if you're awake in a dream. After all, to be awake while dreaming, means to have your awakening consciousness with you in that dream.
As from the imagining stuff point of view, I guess that the imagination plays an important role in the mental plane, as dreaming does in the astral plane. So, it's just a matter of planes... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tn_dizzy002.gif) you can easily jump from one to another if you are well prepared. After all, everything is imagination, illusion, Maya, dream...there is no big difference, or at least that's how I feel know.

This post has been edited by Geegee: Apr 26 2005, 02:10 AM

I was reading some books on dreaming, and thinking about rituals and I dreamed a witch rying to kill me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/004.gif) I saw lots of things she had put in my room amongst which a large piece of meat. Well so much for my imagination. I would like to ask you a question: it's obvious to me that in orther to have acces to dreaming you must make some room for it first. That is to kill some of that part you you telling you "it's stupid, there is no such things as entities form other worlds, lucid dreams etc etc". How do you recomand this "process" of killing yourself taking place?

Sometimes is fun, but when two crows are trying to destroy your chakras (the ones on the neck and the top of the head areas), and they really mess them up, because there's blood involved...that's not funny.

Two CROWS?? Are you sure they weren't RAVENS??? That would make more sense and explain an inner transition or balancing ...

How can I find out now if they were ravens in disguise or just crows that, perhaps, entered the wrong dream?
Anyway, what sense can I make from a dream in which my deceased great grandfather, looking very young, dressed in a black leather jacket( (IMG:style_emoticons/default/punk.gif) he was probably with his Harley) told me that he was going to reincarnate, hoping he'll be a better man in his next life?Then he jumped out of the window.


Question: if the mind cannot stop a bad event from happenning during the dream, like falling from a cliff, or being killed by a giant dog, what happens with the body? I am asking this because I often wake up from painfull dreams crying or screaming and always feeling like the bad thing really happenned. What if I die in my dream? What if my mind simply cannot wake up, like before?

This post has been edited by Geegee: May 9 2005, 01:25 AM

Question: if the mind cannot stop a bad event from happenning during the dream, like falling from a cliff, or being killed by a giant dog, what happens with the body? I am asking this because I often wake up from painfull dreams crying or screaming and always feeling like the bad thing really happenned. What if I die in my dream? What if my mind simply cannot wake up, like before?

In my experience, not much. But then I don't know all that much about dreams, so it could depend on factors I don't know about.

I've been killed in my dreams (knife through my back, puncturing lung, exhaling blood - lots of fun), and woken up quite relaxed. I know a few people who also regularly have dreams where they're killed. They're all still living in the real world, so one would assume that it doesn't do too much.

I have never heard of anyone being killed in their dreams; there is an 'Old Wives Tale' that if this happens, you die, you have proven that this is not the case Zahagiel.

Maybe you are remembering a past life (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shok.gif)

I have never heard of anyone being killed in their dreams; there is an 'Old Wives Tale' that if this happens, you die, you have proven that this is not the case Zahagiel.

Maybe you are remembering a past life (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shok.gif)

I agree Rays. However, Ive never actually died in dreams, I approach it, I pass it, but never have I actually died in a dream

Ive been killed in my dreams, but I never actually die in them. I get attacked, I get to where I am going to die, then all of a sudden I am in the coffin. The actual death never takes place.

Though I do know that dreams are quite powerful and can affect the physical, I dont really know what to think about the wives tale. For how exactly would they know? I mean if they actually died in their dreams they would not be living to tell the damned tale to begin with (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I have never heard of anyone being killed in their dreams; there is an 'Old Wives Tale' that if this happens, you die, you have proven that this is not the case Zahagiel.

Maybe you are remembering a past life

That it most certainly wasn't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

I had it in yr 10, and it was set at my high school, and the person who killed me was someone my age who I knew. At the time she owed me a grudge.

That said - it wasn't scary, just somewhat annoying to realise that I didn't dodge the knife... but quite relaxing in the end.

Two CROWS?? Are you sure they weren't RAVENS??? That would make more sense and explain an inner transition or balancing ...

I forgot to ask why the ravens would explain more than the crows?

Heehee - I think I'm getting better at figuring out that I'm dreaming... sorta.

Last night I had a dream, where I happened to buy jelly beans, and later when I looked down they'd all turned white. My first thought was "weird - must be a dream thing"... unfortunately, I didn't make the connection that that meant I was actually dreaming. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)