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 Fetichism?, e.g. Aftrican-style Animism/spiritism
redbreast
post May 3 2007, 12:42 PM
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I wondered what your thoughts or experiences are on fetichism [Note the spelling I'm using, to differentiate from er- stockings & suspenders fetishism etc!]

I wondered because I've obtained a few "Fetiches" [Sacred figures] of certain tribal spirits of another culture, which certainly seem to be "charged" with power. Also, when I give them their recommended offerings, [e.g. red wine which one of them traditionally likes] - the substances left at the figures' feet soon seem to be changed, as if the sweetness and alcohol is "sucked out" of them. A taste test shows they're definitely different after being offered. This is not my imagination, I've repeatedly tested this alongside standard bottles of the same stuff.
Somewhat eerie maybe! But to me, it would indicate the spirits are there and apparrently accepting the gifts.

Any comments or experiences yourselves?

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post May 16 2007, 04:07 PM
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I always thought that the composition of wine changed once it was exposed to air for a time. I know when you cook with it that the alcohol evaporates. I think this may be the same thing you are experiencing with your fetiches. I know that I have read that spirits like water and they drink it, but if you leave water out, of course it is going to evaporate and if you leave food outside at night for spirits--well, I think wild/domestic animals may be the real ones eating the food. A lot of the African fetiches and altar figures are made of wood or clay and those will naturally absorb liquids.

Then again, I was wondering how the fetiches would feel about you sampling their offerings anyway? I never touch anything after I have left it as an offering--but that's me. The particular spirit of the fetich may not be the warm, fuzzy, sharing type. I would not partake of a left offering unless I knew who/what I was dealing with--kind of like sticking your fork in a guest's plate of food after you serve it to them?

I think that offerings/sacrifices are necessary at times, but I also think about the whys and the symbolism/meaning of such practices.

But, this is all just my opinion on the subject.

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post May 26 2007, 09:45 AM
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Thanks for that .

Yes, I guess the glasses of rum etc may well be evaporating or the alchohol evaporating, and the wine could alter upon contact with air.

However, I've tested this also repeatedly with new, unopened half-bottles of wine, and they too change and go bitter; very out of character for them because I myself sometimes drink exactly the same wine, identical type, make and source in every way, [Namely Sainsburys Chianti Classico!] and so I can tell it is definitely different after being offered.

I wonder if anyone else has had experiences with fetiches?

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