CM and Astral Projection...., ^^ Options

Hello all!
This post would fit more properly in the Cm section, although it is about Astral Projection. This morning I found, to me personally, that tactile imaging ( a Robert Bruce tech.) Works wonders as compared to good old G.D Visualizations. Not to discredit Tattwas or anything, but all rituals will help build vis. skills, try tactile imaging if you are having trouble. If you have any Q's about it Pm me.

-V.V.L

Can yu explain a bit more what tactical visualization is

Not tactile visualization....
Robert Bruce's method is called tactile imaging, where you try to stimulate feelings through consentration....e.g: His rope technique which is by far the most potent method I have used, has you lay down and get into a trance state, or at least a very relaxed state.Then reach out with your etheric hands and imagine you are climbing a rope out of you body, this rope should be at about your solarplexes. The thing is, you don't have to "visualize" all you have to do is feel. After only a few min's you will feel energy surging through your body, if you want me to better clarify this method, send me a e-mail ash.

-In LVX

-V.V.L

AHhh, okay Ive got yu now lol. The ol rope method.

I find tactile projection to be a very effective techinique. One of the better things about it is that it tends to combine senses. More classic techiniques i have read usually involve simply visualization or relaxation. I find that turning my mind off by not only visualizing but also attempting to feel smell or taste other environments aids greatly. I find that vizualising myself walking down a path and smelling roses and after developing the environment around me i usually picture a cliff with water below. At this point i can still sense some of my body and to escape this i jump from the cliff and imagine the feeling of falling. To some this experience may be a bit jarring and the feeling of falling can actually drive one back into his body but for myself the excitement actually helps. Climbing a ladder or rope may be more appropriate. What really helps is developing the path every time to how it was previously and adding a bit to it. This helps me to make the environment more real. I find that some of the value in my system(although i don't claim to have created it) is that it tends to disconnect all the senses. Its hard for me to leave my body when the dog down the street is barking no matter how hard i visualize or feel, but if i create a seperate reality for all senses it makes it a lot easier.

ChaosCrowley,
The trance state is vital to eliminate all these outside distractions, such as the dog barking. I could AP in a very loud and crowded room if I get myself into the proper trance state, that is, to me the most vital tool in Ap'n. The same goes for meditation, a true master of even the simplist meditations should be able to hold a very good, deep meditation even if there are babies crawling all over him and their mother is screaming....my 2 coppers.

-In LVX

-VVL